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 Post subject: Reconciling theories
 Post Posted: Thu Jun 15, 2006 12:38 am 
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Here is a question you may have asked yourself. If 911 was an inside job (and I believe it was) then why was there so much prior knowledge of the attacks? Granted it was ignored, but how could there be intelligence of an Al Qaeda ring in the US and all those pilots going to flight schools and the warning about Bin Laden wanted to attack America if the said hijackers didn't do it (which is evident by some of them still being alive) ?

Why risk them getting busted if they were patsies? Since the hijackers didn't do it how was there any evidence of them planning an attack that they didn't do and obviously didn't even know about considering they were going to get the blame?

Furthermore if the government really did 911 then why leak information about your own patsies and look like incompetent fools when the warnings were ignored?

The prior knowledge arguments have evidence. They do two things. They make the Bush administration look incompetent for not acting on supplied information but it also looks like the attacks could have been prevented had Bush and co only read the memos they were being given. What that does is make it appear like the attack was done by Arab terrorists. The Democrats naturally jumped all over this a chance to make Republicans look bad yet still blame 911 of Arab terrorists.

Someone was dropping hints and information to imply that the terrorists were Arabs and mainly from Saudi Arabia. Why did they frame Saudi Arabia if it was a frame and they were patsies then why not use at least one Iraqi after all that is who they wanted to attack and did attack after 911. Why Saudi Arabia?

The answer is clear when you understand who really caried out 911. The Israeli Mossad and their neocon moles and the blackmail controlled shills.

OK so let's put some facts together and I will come back and answer all of these questions. Someone obviously wanted to pin the 911 terrorists attacks on Muslim Arabs.

One of the most laughable parts of the 911 story was the FBI finding Atta's unburned passport at ground zero. What a crock. Atta's pass port had been reported stolen in 1999 magically that missing and stolen pas port is the same one that was found at ground zero. Geee someone must have put it there for the FBI to find in order to implicate Muslim Arab terrorists.

Who could that be? Who got caught on 911 in a white van that had traces of explosives in it and worked for a moving company which turned out to be a front for the Israeli Mossad? 5 Israeli agents got caught and the first thing out of their mouths was
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Gosh an English speaking x-military explosives expert cheering and taking pictures of the WTC burning towers in in NY on 911 who worked for a fake moving company in the Mossad driving a van that had a hit with bomb sniffing dogs and over 4 thousand dollars stuffed in a sock is nothing to be concerned about. Sivan Kurzberg could still say with a straight face. "It wasn't me, blame the Palestinians."


Shortly after 911 we had two different Anthraz letters trying to blame 911 on the Arabs. One read


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"You cannot stop us. We have this anthrax. You die now. Are you afraid? Death to America. Death to Israel. Allah is great."
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This is next. Take Penacilin now. Death to America. Death to Israel. Allah is great."


Death to America and Death to Israel. Gee I wonder who really wrote it? Might it be Israel?


Rudi Dekkers was Atta's or someone pretending to be Atta's flight instructor in Florida. Note that we know the The Israeli Mossad wa sliving next door to Atta in Florida (supposedly monitoring him).

Now Rudi Dekkers discovered that Atta could not speak German. Mohamed Atta lived in Hamburg Germany yet suddenly he must have forgotten ohw to speak German. Dekkers a Dutch citizen tried to converse with Atta who stared at him and had to ignore him eventually leaving for Boston.

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This is eerily similar to the way in which Zacharias Moussaoui (the so-called "20th hijacker") became "belligerent" when his Minnesota flight instructor tried to speak to him in French (his first language), at the beginning of that course. The Minnessota Star Tribune reported on December 21, 2001: http://www.rys2sense.com/anti-neocons/v ... php?t=1329


"The real Atta would have been able to respond to his instructor’s German small talk and the real Moussaoui would have been able to respond to his instructor’s French small talk." quoted from here

Well SOMEBODY was trying to create information about Arab Hijackers training for 911. SOMEBODY was living next to their partner Atta framer. No wonder Atta was seen so many times on the casino ships with Jack Abarmoff. He was not Atta he was the Mossad's own boy. They killed the eal Atta.

SOMEBODY left his passport at ground zero and then somebody wrote letters for the anthrax attacks steering Americas rage onti Israel's enemies.


Back to the Saudi question. So why there? To understand this one would have to be aware of the foiled Mossad plot in Mexico. To be breif the OIl rich Mexico was being set up to ally with the US by way of another false flag operation. But the polt was foiled and the Israelis busted with Hand grenades and TNT. I really encourage you to get my book Welcome to the USSA. Cut oils off from the Sauds. Blame the Anthrax attacks on an Egyptian and invent false Al Qaeda connections with Iraq and say Osama is in Afghanistan.... Someone is not at war with terrorists but with Israel's enemies. We KNOW they lied about Iraq. I assure you Bin Laden is already dead. And We know they are lying about 911.

The question remains who did it. What are the specific names? Who made the OSP and wrote PNAC who put the bombs in the towers and when?

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where were PNAC's documents written? They came form Israel.

Who wrote PNAC?

PNAC was first written in Israel. It was Paul Wolowittz, Richard Perle, Lewis Libby, Douglas Feith, Bill Kristal (CFR) and Elliot Abrams (CFR) Aaron Friedberg also (CFR) Donald Kagan (CFR) Stephen Rosen (the AIPAC employee caught spying on the US!!) All Zionists and all Jewish.

Thats not anti-semetic it's just the truth.

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 Post subject: Great Post I gotta get your book!
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man, the more I read your posts, the more lucid and clear it gets.

I cannot wait until I am soewhere where I can get your book. Delivery time is conspiring against my schedule and so I don't know where I am going to be. If I order it now and it comes here and I am onna move then I miss it. sucks. am working on a solution.

geat stuff, though man. I am so glad I came across your stuff and this site.

(and to be fair, for those who don't know, it was because of a link on Rivero's WRH that I found this place - though I am growing to have beef with him over some issues lately and his quippy little quotes are getting way outta hand)


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I hope you can get a book soon. I'm sure you will enjoy it. Some of the things in the book I have said here and there on this site but its lost in the thousands of posts. You will like the parts on Israel and on the media as well. I think after reading it it would be hard for someone to walk away Not thinking about the Israeli question. To me Im 99% certain of it.


Help me spread the word. WRH links here about once or twice a month. But usually we get most people by way of mouth. So go tell a few friends. This is grass roots this is how we grow.

WRH is a great site. So is Informationclearinghouse.info

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Have you seen the only review your book has on barnesandnoble.com? I am getting the book now. We need to get some of our own reviews on their. Don't let some neocon shit have the only say about your book on the ordering website! No doubt this person didn't read the book.

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Rock on Ry!

The Mossad are involved in this big time and that scumbag Alex Jones is an enemy of freedom for denying their involvement in 9/11.

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considering it just came out it, the person could not have even gotten to book yet much less have read it already.

They called me an anti-semite and a Muslim. Ha Ha. Get on there and correct this fool. I am not an anti-semite and I am openly an Atheist and there is nothing wrong with not having a religion.

You can see how Afraid the Neocons are. They have already started attacking the book without even reading it.

Here is more on Israel and 911 and the stuff WASP like ALex Jones fail to see http://www.rys2sense.com/anti-neocons/viewtopic.php?t=1388

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That was not even a book review it was just character assult.

Ry I wrote a possitive review just talking about the stuff you showed me while you were writing the book and I love your blogs and this site. But it is not on the site. It is as if they are censoring the positive reviews.

I know other people on this site have written good things. I suspect censorship.


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This isn't good. Ry, I also wrote a positive review yesterday and it STILL hasn't been posted. Did Barnes&Noble write that negative review? Why aren't they letting positive ones through? Maybe they take a couple of days to clear or something. Who knows :?:

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I onw for a fact my brpther wrote a positive review days ago. This is censorship.

BUT WORSE YET MY BOOK HAS BEEN BUTCHARED!

I got a copy of my own book in Japan ans I decided to read it even though I knew what was in it just cause I was on a train.

It is like it wasn"t edited. I had one guy quit durring publishing and then got a knew guy. Im already getting the shaft as i get 2 dollars a bool and the rest goes to the man.

But this pisses me off to no end. They are censoring positive reviews and my book is not what it was supposed to be. It makes me look like an idiot. No pictures are in it and I found 4 typos. What the fuck.

god damn I am so mad.

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The guy wrote, Ry is an 'anti semitic muslim'

what the fuck!! If he had read the book, he find out Ry is an aethiest. LOL. The guy is a prick.

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I think you'll see a lot more of this Ry as the book gains press and a lot more activity in the forum.

Amazon has a good review.

I just read an article about PR infiltration of blogs and other comment sites, kinda like corporate cointel. "netvocates", heel clickers that use their hyperconsumer trolls to counter messages that speak about their products. Tied to the so called "conservative right".

Watch your incoming hits.(great article too!)

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"NetVocates then recruits activists and consumers who share the client’s views in order to reinforce those key messages on targeted blogs – and rebut misinformation when appropriate."

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This isn't good. Ry, I also wrote a positive review yesterday and it STILL hasn't been posted. Did Barnes&Noble write that negative review? Why aren't they letting positive ones through? Maybe they take a couple of days to clear or something. Who knows :?:
I wrote a positive review also, but the message said it takes a couple of days for the review to be posted...


But don't get your hopes up, they can still censor positive reviews.

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This is fucked up. You should sue the publishing company or something.


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If you're bored, be sure to compare the Anthrax letters printing with that of the JonBenet Ramsey ransom note. They were both copied from the original turned upside down and surprisingly enough, they have the same themes. :roll:


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interesting. I have the Anthrax letter pinned on Philip Zack

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I know this is incredibly off topic and you all probably don't appreciate it much, but I'm new to your group and I didn't know where to post this. I watched the video "Loose Change" which I'm guessing most of you have as well. That + MySpace led me to this group, it seems you all share the same ideas and motivations I have come to (Post-Viewing). I would just like to say I appreciate what you're doing and would like to help. I'm 19 living in Florida and I, as you all have, have noticed my constitutional rights being ripped away and this dictatorship begining to form. The media won't cover it and finally I found some kind of voice here, basically I'm just ranting to someone who finally cares about what's happening to our once great country, but I'm sure you all know full well. I've taken it as my duty once seeing the documentary video to bring others to watch it. Thank you for the bullhorn.

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Well it's been a few days and mysteriously there have still been no positive reviews posted on barnesandnoble.com. Personally I'm never buying from that site again.

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I know this is incredibly off topic and you all probably don't appreciate it much, but I'm new to your group and I didn't know where to post this. I watched the video "Loose Change" which I'm guessing most of you have as well. That + MySpace led me to this group, it seems you all share the same ideas and motivations I have come to (Post-Viewing). I would just like to say I appreciate what you're doing and would like to help. I'm 19 living in Florida and I, as you all have, have noticed my constitutional rights being ripped away and this dictatorship begining to form. The media won't cover it and finally I found some kind of voice here, basically I'm just ranting to someone who finally cares about what's happening to our once great country, but I'm sure you all know full well. I've taken it as my duty once seeing the documentary video to bring others to watch it. Thank you for the bullhorn.


Loose Change is a great first video. Some have said Loose Change is step one and this site is step two. Loose Changes shows What happened, and I can show you Who did it, as well as how we landed in Iraq by the same people.

I know it is frustrating, because each person wonders, "what can I do" unfortunately unless you have money or lots of time there is not much you can do. However you can spread the word to those who can make an impact. Bring people to see 911 films online. Start with your own family and friends. Listen to this radio interview Radio interview and get others to listen to it. Have people read this site. Or print things out and show it to people. There are a lot of people who know what's wrong who are afraid to speak out. The more people who speak out the more people who will speak out. We are becoming the majority.

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You got it I know damn well people posted positive reviews the day this negative one went up. This is blatent censorship and sabotage. This just further proves I am right. What is unique about my book? The Israeli connections to PNAC and 911 Iraq and Iran. We know who controls our media, the country getting a clear pass by the press on their illegal occupation of Palestine.

Start telling everyone it is ISREAL. Call in to the Alex Jones Show and ask him where PNAC came from and why they dont talk about Zionism enough. Or ask any question and tell him to come to anti-neocons.com let people know we have a great resource here. I can not call in from Japan.

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Wow, this really lets it sink in. I gave a book review as well and it is not there. That was about a week ago. I got the book, and I am loving it. This is the best of all your blogs plus sources and a lot of things I had never heard before. You put it all together. The Neocons and Zionists are behind 911, and the War on Terror AKA the War on Freedom.

It is against B&N's own rules to post things about the author and this was clearly just a character assult the title of the review alone should have tipped people off.

Love the cover. I want it signed one day.

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How did Mossad get 19 Saudis to hijack 4 jetliners and fly them into our buildings? It's not like they like eachother all that much.

Did they use the remote control planes?

Was is a trap door in the fly by wire software?

Why haven't they done it since 11 Septermber 2001?

Did they use the Scalor Energy Weapon to drive the hurricanes into the Gulf of Mexico? Was this done to make Bush look bad?

Are those Israeli planes flying overhead right now dumping chem-trails on me?

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Offtopic somewhat...Is there any footage of the towers collapsing from an aerial view? Weren't there helicopters hovering above the WTC towers?

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How did Mossad get 19 Saudis to hijack 4 jetliners and fly them into our buildings? It's not like they like eachother all that much.

Did they use the remote control planes?

Was is a trap door in the fly by wire software?

Why haven't they done it since 11 Septermber 2001?

Did they use the Scalor Energy Weapon to drive the hurricanes into the Gulf of Mexico? Was this done to make Bush look bad?

Are those Israeli planes flying overhead right now dumping chem-trails on me?


They did not get Saudis to hijack planes those guys were never on those planes. Those were people who they had stolen passports from and thought they could leave a paper trail to. Northrup Grunman who Feith is an attorney for and several other neocons work for is the company that makes remote control software in Boein planes.

They did not create hurricanes in Mexico. There are hurricanes every summer one just finally hit the gulf and that is a pattern actually. Bush already looks abd enough no one has to make him look bad. One guy from New Orleans being covered live broke script and told the truth thats is what started that mess.

Chemtrails are by and large American planes. But the big pharma companies who profit from it have business ties to the US and Israel.

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Hi, I don't post that often but I just wanted to say that the conclusions regarding 9-11 and Israel are basically correct.

However and I hope people don't rail on me about this, the conspiracy itself is much larger than just Israel.


The same people who were behind the terrorist attacks, were also responsible for taking over the country of Israel from the Israelis themselves, and also taking over many European countries.

There is no question that the Zionists were the right-hands for executing these attacks.

And I would not ever say people are anti-semitic for "focusing" just on Israel, BUT it is MUCH larger than just Israel and there are other countries who did this as Ry knows just what I am talking about...

Technically I guess, the reason Israel has not attacked Iran already is they know they don't have the manpower and the "people who control" Israel like to shift strategy.

So as a matter of fact, there is now over 300,000 troops built up in Turkey and around the Iraq borders as well as inside Iraq.

300,000 is an enormously huge number. Just what are they doing there?

Well a group of "scholars" have concluded that the country of Turkey is most likely going to attack Iran, and literally start the games..

If Sibel Edmonds was EVER ungagged at all she would confirm all of this. There was multiple countries who committed treason on September 11, not just Israel but they were all part of the same game.
http://www.ken-welch.com/Reports/Armageddon.html

Somebody is orchestrating an enormous game here, and they have controlled that country of Israel for decades probably longer than Iran. And they have the same interest in using the "Zionist" and "Communist" movement, to achieve a feudel state. Then apparently they want the Masonic "Zionists" to take the fall, along with the muslims, to at last usher in their "NEW WORLD ORDER" There is no illuminati all there is is a group of crazy men, a committee of 300, who control all the world's governments including the Zionist Jews and Wahabbi Muslims and they all work towards only one single agenda.

That is not in doubt...


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I replied to this already in the US poli section.

http://www.rys2sense.com/anti-neocons/viewtopic.php?p=39257#39257

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