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Post subject: Protestant Churches pay for Israel's occupation Posted: Wed Jun 07, 2006 6:53 pm |
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This is a list of investments by Churches into the cashcow called Israel.
More importantly however is to recognize the fact that normal Protestant sects (not just Fundementalist) have Billions of dollars to invest and they are all currently placing their hard-conned money into corporations involved in the Israeli occupation. This is the Military-industrial-religious-complex. Organized Religions are, after all, multi-national billionaire corporations who do not pay taxes and have an economic interest in investing in the conflicts they can help foster with religious rhetoric. This is why Israel enjoys the support of Christian fanatics, it's not just the temple on the mount BS, Israel is a Cashcow for the MIC and the Churches use it to profiteer. That's right, this is not some illuminati or devil worshipping cult that's to blame, (as the theory pitched by some holy roller Preachers like Tex Marrs-an idiot who believes in bible prophecy) it's good old Christian Churches. I bet you didn't know they even had Billions of dollars much less that much invested in the occupation of Palestine. Imagine how much churches could help the poor with all that money if they spent it on that instead of on warfare.
These are just the Protestant Churches who have considered divestment, putting morals over profits. Other Protestants sects are not even listed. None of them have actually divested a penny to date. I just found it telling that even though they "talk" about divestment it is just shocking to see how much they have invested in this fascist occupation, (just like they did South Africa).
Billions invested in the Israeli occupation
Presbyterian Church USA (PCUSA) 8 BILLION
The General Assembly of the Presbyterian Church (USA) is slated to meet in Birmingham, Alabama in June 2006 to vote on the next step in its controversial divestment process, and it is still unclear what direction it will take. A special committee appointed by PCUSA to investigate the issues told representatives from a coalition of Jewish organizations in January 2006 that they did not expect their work to be finished in time for the national conference in June.
Meanwhile, dozens of resolutions -- called overtures in church terminology -- have been debated across the United States by local PCUSA synods or chapters offering proposals on whether PCUSA should proceed with its divestment campaign, or whether the movement should delay or abandon divestment as its strategy.
The controversy first erupted in July 2004, when the PCUSA General Assembly voted to divest from companies doing business with Israel. The Church's investment portfolio has $8 billion in holdings. The vote, passed by 431-62, calls on the "Mission Responsibility Through Investment Committee (MRTI) to initiate a process of phased, selective divestment in multinational corporations operating in Israel." Through an internal process, the PCUSA later added an additional focus on companies that might support violence against Israelis. The PCUSA's Committee on Mission Responsibility Through Investment (MRTI) identified four companies that work with Israel (Caterpillar, ITT, Motorola, and United Technologies Corporation). They also identified one company for its alleged actions that involve support for terrorism (Citigroup). The MRTI committee has stated that it will not move for the sale of any of these stocks.
Despite the Presbyterian divestment initiative, many church leaders and people in the pews across the country have strongly and vocally disagreed with the Church's proposal to divest from Israel. See: What They Are Saying: Statements by Church Leaders on Divestment
Episcopal/Anglican Church (ECUSA) £4 BILLION
In fall 2004, the Episcopal Church announced that it would likely conduct a yearlong examination of whether or not the Church should divest its holdings from companies doing business in Israel. In an October 1 statement, Episcopal Bishop Christopher Epting, the church's ecumenical director, and the Rev. Brian Grieves, director of its peace and justice division announced that the investigation will look into what investments are "appropriate with companies that contribute to the ongoing (Israeli) Occupation (of Palestinian territories), especially in the areas of home demolitions, settlement building and the separation wall."
However, after a period of review and consultation, including meetings with national Jewish agencies, the ECUSA announced it had removed divestment from consideration.
I did not discover what every church gives, only the ones who plan on divesting. You can bet with certainty that other Churches such as the Baptist gross much higher and give/invest far more into Israel. I hope you are begining to see how the Christian wing of tax free money feeds into the milittary industrial complex. This is also why the Israeli lobby which demands the conflict continue gets so much money. Christians do more than support Israel with their mouths. Christiani institutions have their lips firmly around the entired sticky buttocks of the Zionist fascist.
Evangelical Lutheran Church in America (ELCA)
The ELCA, at its Church-wide Assembly in summer 2005 considered and rejected a divestment resolution, instead adopting a "positive investment" policy to foster peace and cooperation in the region. This approach stresses an investment of "advocacy, volunteer work, and financial resources in those who share in the quest for peace with justice."
United Church of Christ (UCC)
The UCC, at its General Synod, also in summer 2005, considered and rejected a divestment resolution. A "positive investment" substitute was passed out of committee. However, a last minute "compromise" was moved and adopted that included both "positive investment" and an endorsement of divestment. The resolution did not initiate any divestment process, though, and UCC leaders have stated that none is planned.
United Methodist Church (UMC)
The UMC has continued to defer any action on divestment. Two local regions adopted resolutions in support of divestment. National leaders, however, have expressed their opposition to any similar action on behalf of the UMC.
Update
Methodist ~$8 billion
It seems the Methodist are making moves to divest from Israel.
Methodist Conference sets new rules for ethical investment in Israel and Palestine.
Quote: The Methodist Conference has voted for the Church to draw up guidelines on how to engage with corporations or activities that support illegal Israeli activity in the West Bank or Gaza strip companies, with disinvestments as the ultimate sanction
“We cannot turn a blind eye to this suffering,” he said. “I believe we should not invest in companies that involve themselves in activities that defy UN resolutions.” -June 2006 source
Two United Methodist gatherings (In Virginia) urge selective divestment from Israel
Church of England £2.3 Billion (pounds not dollars) and that is just in ONE company!
On February 6, 2006, the Church of England's General Synod overwhelmingly voted to divest from companies whose products are used by Israel in the Palestinian territories. The Synod backed a call by the Episcopal Church in Jerusalem to divest from "companies profiting from the illegal occupation," such as Caterpillar. The Church described its support for divestment as "morally responsible investment". The divestment vote was spearheaded by radical Anglicans, among them Bishop John Gladwin, who maintains a close association with the Sabeel Ecumenical Liberation Theology Center in Jerusalem.
The current Archbishop of Canterbury, Rowan Williams, voted in favor of the divestment motion. His predecessor, Lord Carey, spoke forcefully against divestment and declared himself "ashamed to be an Anglican" after the vote was passed.
One month after the Synod vote, which is not binding, the Church's Ethical Investment Advisory Group announced that it would not withdraw its investment in Caterpillar ( worth 2.3 million Pounds), since it could find "no compelling evidence" of the company's involvement in the abuse of human rights. In response, anti-Israel activists in the Church have urged individual parishes to withdraw monies from the Church's Central Board of Finance
Learn more about Divestments and the Christian role in it here
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Post subject: Posted: Sat Aug 05, 2006 5:35 pm |
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church=sponsered terrorism. lovely.
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Post subject: Posted: Sat Aug 05, 2006 5:44 pm |
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Interesting stuff and all courtesy of the ADL baha.
Someone should drive a bulldozer into Canterbury cathedral.
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Post subject: Posted: Mon Aug 07, 2006 8:07 am |
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Xtians use the ZIonist owned media to make Billions and fork it over to Israel who used it to lobby the US congress to support the illegal occupation who the CHristian ad ZIonist invested in the corporate aspect of and make more money killing kids of another religion.
Sounds a lot like the old goldstiens/goldsmiths paying the christians kings to wage crusades on muslims, the new covert meant more wealth and land for the church.
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Post subject: Posted: Thu Sep 07, 2006 11:22 am |
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Drugs don't support terrorism, Churches do, go figures.
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Post subject: Posted: Wed Oct 25, 2006 8:02 am |
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churches are nothing but banks who use fairy tales to get deposits that they never have to pay back
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Post subject: Posted: Sun Dec 17, 2006 7:44 pm |
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bump
_________________ This site is against war, Zionism, (or any other form of racism), profiteering, and all forms of government corruption, mass media deception, and cover ups. This is not a site to flail on about space aliens-illuminati-masonic-dealcult-jewish-catholic-lizard-lucifarian-jesuit-queen-barvarian-etc bull hockey. Take that junk somewhere else. My Twitter "It doesn't matter who we are underneath. It is what we do that defines us." Batman  Booga booga Iran... Meanwhile Israel secretly built hundred of nukes using technology stolen from the US. Everyone knows it and no one does anything about it. Google version of War by Deception (Magic Bunnies) Pass HR 1207 and S604 audit the Fed
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Post subject: Re: Protestant Churches pay for Israel's occupation Posted: Sun Dec 24, 2006 9:15 pm |
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i'm going to post this on a few forums. You will get the credit, ofcourse.
Good info.
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Post subject: Posted: Wed Jan 10, 2007 7:25 am |
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ry my hat goes of for you , great post indeed
this is further proof to me how much corruption is in the bible and the church . they use and abuse jesus , thats why we <muslims>belive when jesus returns he will look at christians and turn his back on them and will say your NOT my people .
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In the Quran, God has said:
“God does not forbid you from showing kindness and dealing justly with those who have not fought you about religion and have not driven you out of your homes. God loves JUST actions.” (_Quran 60:8_)
To kill an innocent life it is as if you killed humanity ,to save an innocent life is as if you saved humanity ... the blessed Quran...
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Post subject: Posted: Wed Jan 10, 2007 7:28 am |
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_________________ You can fool all of the people some of the time, and some of the people all of the time, but you can't fool all the people all of the time.
Abraham Lincoln
In the Quran, God has said:
“God does not forbid you from showing kindness and dealing justly with those who have not fought you about religion and have not driven you out of your homes. God loves JUST actions.” (_Quran 60:8_)
To kill an innocent life it is as if you killed humanity ,to save an innocent life is as if you saved humanity ... the blessed Quran...
http://Islamic-s.webs.com
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Post subject: Posted: Tue Jan 16, 2007 7:21 am |
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Gyps wrote: church=sponsered terrorism. lovely.
this is not the first or last . the church is controlled by evil people with evil intentions .
islam teachs when jesus returns ,he will give the church his back and say to them your not my people . makes sence to me
_________________ You can fool all of the people some of the time, and some of the people all of the time, but you can't fool all the people all of the time.
Abraham Lincoln
In the Quran, God has said:
“God does not forbid you from showing kindness and dealing justly with those who have not fought you about religion and have not driven you out of your homes. God loves JUST actions.” (_Quran 60:8_)
To kill an innocent life it is as if you killed humanity ,to save an innocent life is as if you saved humanity ... the blessed Quran...
http://Islamic-s.webs.com
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Post subject: Posted: Thu Feb 01, 2007 6:45 am |
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i cant help n think on how many poor people this money coulda benifited .
_________________ You can fool all of the people some of the time, and some of the people all of the time, but you can't fool all the people all of the time.
Abraham Lincoln
In the Quran, God has said:
“God does not forbid you from showing kindness and dealing justly with those who have not fought you about religion and have not driven you out of your homes. God loves JUST actions.” (_Quran 60:8_)
To kill an innocent life it is as if you killed humanity ,to save an innocent life is as if you saved humanity ... the blessed Quran...
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To make matters worst not all Palestinians are Muslims a lot are Christians. How can you support an illegal occupation that is killing the people in your religion?
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Post subject: Posted: Tue Feb 06, 2007 7:41 pm |
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SnakeP wrote: To make matters worst not all Palestinians are Muslims a lot are Christians. How can you support an illegal occupation that is killing the people in your religion?
sence they support the palestinian cause ,not the isreali ,their religion doesnt matter ,
_________________ You can fool all of the people some of the time, and some of the people all of the time, but you can't fool all the people all of the time.
Abraham Lincoln
In the Quran, God has said:
“God does not forbid you from showing kindness and dealing justly with those who have not fought you about religion and have not driven you out of your homes. God loves JUST actions.” (_Quran 60:8_)
To kill an innocent life it is as if you killed humanity ,to save an innocent life is as if you saved humanity ... the blessed Quran...
http://Islamic-s.webs.com
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sham2society wrote: SnakeP wrote: To make matters worst not all Palestinians are Muslims a lot are Christians. How can you support an illegal occupation that is the people in your religion? sence they support the Palestinian cause ,not the isreali ,their religion doesnt matter ,
No I'm talking about the Churches I mean hypocritical can you be talking bad about Jews then turn around support Israel an illegal occupation that is massacring people. I myself am Muslim and I know what you mean sorry if I confused you.
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Post subject: Posted: Tue Feb 06, 2007 10:20 pm |
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SnakeP wrote: sham2society wrote: SnakeP wrote: To make matters worst not all Palestinians are Muslims a lot are Christians. How can you support an illegal occupation that is the people in your religion? sence they support the Palestinian cause ,not the isreali ,their religion doesnt matter , No I'm talking about the Churches I mean hypocritical can you be talking bad about Jews then turn around support Israel an illegal occupation that is massacring people. I myself am Muslim and I know what you mean sorry if I confused you.
its cool ,brother
wa sallam alaykem
_________________ You can fool all of the people some of the time, and some of the people all of the time, but you can't fool all the people all of the time.
Abraham Lincoln
In the Quran, God has said:
“God does not forbid you from showing kindness and dealing justly with those who have not fought you about religion and have not driven you out of your homes. God loves JUST actions.” (_Quran 60:8_)
To kill an innocent life it is as if you killed humanity ,to save an innocent life is as if you saved humanity ... the blessed Quran...
http://Islamic-s.webs.com
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sham2society wrote: SnakeP wrote: sham2society wrote: SnakeP wrote: To make matters worst not all Palestinians are Muslims a lot are Christians. How can you support an illegal occupation that is the people in your religion? sence they support the Palestinian cause ,not the isreali ,their religion doesnt matter , No I'm talking about the Churches I mean hypocritical can you be talking bad about Jews then turn around support Israel an illegal occupation that is massacring people. I myself am Muslim and I know what you mean sorry if I confused you. its cool ,brother wa sallam alaykem
thanks
wa lley com salam
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Post subject: Posted: Sun Mar 11, 2007 10:56 am |
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Plenty of Christians never go to Church and don't give them a dime. Alot of other are blind to what is done with their money. They might want to support Palestine and unknowingly help the Israelis.
This is part of why I am exsposing this about the churches.
Muslims need more Athiest Jews because those guys are some of the best Anti-Zionist around.
_________________ This site is against war, Zionism, (or any other form of racism), profiteering, and all forms of government corruption, mass media deception, and cover ups. This is not a site to flail on about space aliens-illuminati-masonic-dealcult-jewish-catholic-lizard-lucifarian-jesuit-queen-barvarian-etc bull hockey. Take that junk somewhere else. My Twitter "It doesn't matter who we are underneath. It is what we do that defines us." Batman  Booga booga Iran... Meanwhile Israel secretly built hundred of nukes using technology stolen from the US. Everyone knows it and no one does anything about it. Google version of War by Deception (Magic Bunnies) Pass HR 1207 and S604 audit the Fed
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Post subject: Posted: Fri Apr 27, 2007 12:14 am |
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If you know people who are Christian that go to church & give the donations, show them stuff like this: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid ... 7904083932 & The Other Israel by Ted Pike. Those videos explain what the Bible actually teaches, it doesn't teach blind support of the current state of Israel. If they actually want to be Christian rather than Zionist they need to stop going to church & learn this stuff.
I don't subscribe to organized religion myself but even if you hate Christianity or think it's ridiculous, these videos are of value in my opinion to show to people who are Christian so that they understand they are not mandated to support fraudulent Israel under their religion & that the churches are corrupted.
Texe Marrs does not try to shift the blame from Christian churches on to some fictional devil worshipping cult, he puts the blame directly on the Christian churches and their leaders are members of real devil worshipping cults like Skull and Bones and Bohemian Grove.
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Post subject: Posted: Fri Apr 27, 2007 1:13 am |
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Ry wrote: Plenty of Christians never go to Church and don't give them a dime. Alot of other are blind to what is done with their money. They might want to support Palestine and unknowingly help the Israelis.
This is part of why I am exsposing this about the churches.
Muslims need more Athiest Jews because those guys are some of the best Anti-Zionist around.
yes indeed we need to start waking up to how money in general is being spent ,and concentrate on finding a cause that can unify all people ,regardless of race ,religion or backround
i belive the only cause that can unite humanity is ending poverty . if we can accomplish that then there is much hope for us .
_________________ You can fool all of the people some of the time, and some of the people all of the time, but you can't fool all the people all of the time.
Abraham Lincoln
In the Quran, God has said:
“God does not forbid you from showing kindness and dealing justly with those who have not fought you about religion and have not driven you out of your homes. God loves JUST actions.” (_Quran 60:8_)
To kill an innocent life it is as if you killed humanity ,to save an innocent life is as if you saved humanity ... the blessed Quran...
http://Islamic-s.webs.com
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Post subject: Posted: Mon May 28, 2007 9:13 am |
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I hate to do this but um you might want to look at where the Muslim money goes because it aint all like Hezbollah.
A lot of it is going into drug rings most notably in Turkey.
I am not religious (well duh) but a question I have is why do religions even have churches/temples/mosque?
can"t you worship your invisible man anywhere in the world and can"t you just tread the text yourselves? further more so say you gather to sing and pray and kiss walls and drink grape juice or whatever the hell you do together. Does god really need any money? shouldn't all that crap just be free?
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Post subject: Posted: Mon May 28, 2007 10:58 am |
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Quote: I hate to do this but um you might want to look at where the Muslim money goes because it aint all like Hezbollah.
A lot of it is going into drug rings most notably in Turkey.
I am not religious (well duh) but a question I have is why do religions even have churches/temples/mosque?
can"t you worship your invisible man anywhere in the world and can"t you just tread the text yourselves? further more so say you gather to sing and pray and kiss walls and drink grape juice or whatever the hell you do together. Does god really need any money? shouldn't all that crap just be free?
Well said.
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Albert Einstein once said, "If 50 million people say a foolish thing, it is still a foolish thing". So remember, before you open your mouth, you may very well be just another idiot with 49,999,999 people standing behind you that are just slightly dumber than you.
There's lots of statistics and data for stuff. I reject 100% of it, 99.9% of the time. Add that to your statistics, asswipes!
Intellectualism can be funny sometimes because, when being used as a defense mechanism, they THOROUGHLY demonstrate to you that they are an idiot, versus, just giving you a hint, like the regular idiot.
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Ry wrote: I hate to do this but um you might want to look at where the Muslim money goes because it aint all like Hezbollah.
A lot of it is going into drug rings most notably in Turkey.
I am not religious (well duh) but a question I have is why do religions even have churches/temples/mosque?
can"t you worship your invisible man anywhere in the world and can"t you just tread the text yourselves? further more so say you gather to sing and pray and kiss walls and drink grape juice or whatever the hell you do together. Does god really need any money? shouldn't all that crap just be free?
well for one us muslims dont worship a man ,we worship who created man , woman and everything that exsists . we bow to a much higher being .
regarding ur question about why a mosque is built and used for is actually pretty simple , and its for unity , a place where many people can get together to communicate ,interact with each other n so on . to creat a strong community  .
i do agree with you that much of islamic money isnt going to proper places ,and its not only drugs , much goes to profitering ( saudi families ) for example , if muslims today were the same muslims of the past , povery my friend would not be a major world issue ,but it is because u got many fake muslims in very powerfull positions .
many if not all islamic goverment are corrupt ,which is a comon trait among all world goverments , islamic or not , but thankfully its not corrupt at its source THE QURAN .
_________________ You can fool all of the people some of the time, and some of the people all of the time, but you can't fool all the people all of the time.
Abraham Lincoln
In the Quran, God has said:
“God does not forbid you from showing kindness and dealing justly with those who have not fought you about religion and have not driven you out of your homes. God loves JUST actions.” (_Quran 60:8_)
To kill an innocent life it is as if you killed humanity ,to save an innocent life is as if you saved humanity ... the blessed Quran...
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Post subject: Posted: Sat Jun 23, 2007 12:27 am |
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sham2society wrote: i cant help n think on how many poor people this money coulda benifited .
Me too! I actually know some people in dire situations that actually need the help. It's sad, really that these people hate Arabs so much they'd rather let their own people suffer than to see an Arab live.
_________________   Quote: Israel is afraid Hamas will start firing delicious baked goods over the wall ... and that these will go straight to Israel's thighs.
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Post subject: Posted: Sat Jun 23, 2007 12:35 am |
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sham2society wrote: SnakeP wrote: To make matters worst not all Palestinians are Muslims a lot are Christians. How can you support an illegal occupation that is killing the people in your religion? sence they support the palestinian cause ,not the isreali ,their religion doesnt matter ,
Also it's because they're Arab. Don't forget the Bible states Arabs came from Ishmael(Ismail), and what is said about him isn't quite rosy and sweet.
If they thought this way about him, what's to say that they don't say the same about his descendants? In one chapter of the Bible it's been interpreted that God will strike and wipe out all but one-sixth of the Arabs.
 So much for "Judge not lest ye be judged"!
_________________   Quote: Israel is afraid Hamas will start firing delicious baked goods over the wall ... and that these will go straight to Israel's thighs.
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