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Here is some good old fashion racism.

Last Thursday three young men I'd say twenty something rented a room at a motel and played basket ball at a court nextdoor to the motel, then they hung out on the porch smoking cigars and talking on cell phones.

These 3 men were black.....several people called the cops (according to the cops) and said they thought they were dealing drugs off the porch. The cops came while the young men were out to eat at a restaurant across the street.

The cops searched the room and even the trash dumpster used by the entire motel. In the common dumpster they found pot seeds and stems.
Keep in mind there are 35 rooms at this motel.

I blasted the cops for searching without probable cause and they argued that several people had called them but would not say who. then they said they found pot seeds in the dumpster. I told them I had no idea who the pot seeds came from and a general arguement began. Fucker threatened to taser me.

Do you let people smoke weed here they asked. Well no. Then why are there seeds in the trash? I don't know. You don't know or don't care? I don't know how could I? Did you get the lisence plate? No I didn't know they did anything. Well what do you know? Well I thought you needed a warrant to search a room. do you want to get tazered? No. Then quit being a smart ass we had several calls. from who? we are not at liberty to say.

Anyway nothing happened and the 3 black guys never even knew their room had been searched. When they came back they asked why the cop cars were there.

The problem is that several people called them... so they say. If that is true why did they call? These guys didn't do anything. I have had cops harrass me many times just for walking at night down the road and I am not black. I think the people who called the cops did so because these guys were black but I think the cops would have searched the room if they were white too.

edit added by Ry (brother of General Hoke)
The cops need to know that probably cause means they could go went get a search warrent. Probable cause does not mean they can search without a warrent, probable cause means they have a reason to get a warrent and AFTER and only after they get a warrent can they search.



Cops may make arrests based on Reasonable Cause but they may not make a search without a warrent (which requires probably cause) much less with out an arrest or even the knowledge of the suspect(s). So for example police could not pull you over in your car no matter what they suspected (without direct evidence) until you broke a law. And property rights are much stronger for residences than for automobiles.

*search and seizure law would require some kind of direct evidence before they would enter where the occupants were staying without a warrent. They had no direct evidence further proven by the fact that they didn't find anything.

*Also since 1974 police need to search the residence with consent of at least one occupant. Under the Patriot Act they may search without a warrent but only if the suspect is supected of terrorism or plotting terrorism.

Any prejudice wuss could call the cops and tell them they saw whatever and act as a loop hole around the right to privacy. Moreover they searched the room in SECRET. It is one thing to abtain the suspects and search with their knowledge and another to do it in secret. The cops could easily just plant something on them.

I would notify the papers. In fact I am reporting this now to alt media groups.

Threatening to taser you when you have not broken the law is against the law. And for those who don't know Hatteras is practically an all white area. I can imagine someone called to police on these people just because they saw three black guys at night time.

And using Secret reports to do a Secret search, also done Secretly with no affirmation is called Gestapo

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Wait... General Hoke is black?



Just kidding, bad joke, I know. That's pretty phucked up, imo. Was it someone else in the motel that called the cops?

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Sounds like the typical shit to me... sucks you went thru that Hoke.

It sucks that cops can search hotel rooms so easily on the whim of a paranoid neighbor.

here is the rest. I blasted the cops for searching without probable cause and they argued that several people had called them but would not say who. then they said they found pot seeds in the dumpster. I told them I had no idea who the pot seeds came from and a general arguement began. Fucker threatened to taser me.
Anyway nothing happened and the 3 black guys never even new their room had been searched. When they came back they asked why the cop cars were there.

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wow. did they notify you prior to beginning the search?

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of course not they apparently acted like they are above the law as usual and went ahead and did whatever they want.

some people are just scared to death, omg, black men, call the cops. just tell them they might be dealing drugs.

i JUST got done writing a short anti-racism rant here (before reading this topic):
http://www.rys2sense.com/anti-neocons/v ... 9&start=39

to avoid repeating myself in this thread, you might want to go check it out, that link should start you right on my post.

this actually is the subject matter of that very topic anyways.

Wait is this the same hotel I need to go to relax and get away from it all in the sorry to be a downer thread?

see? were all doomed...

hehe

the cops need to know that probably cause means they went and go get a search warrent or get affirmation for one but would still have to list what items they believed they would find. Probable cause does not mean they can search without a warrent, probable cause means they have a reason to get a warrent and AFTER and only after they get a warrent can they search. Any fuck head could call the cops and tell them they saw whatever and act as a loop hole around the right to provacy. Moreover they searched the room in SECRET. It is one thing to abtain the suspects and search with their knowledge and another to do it in secret. The cops could easily just plant something on them.

I would notify the papers. In fact I am reporting this now to alt media groups.

Threatening to taser you when you have not broken the law is against the law. I have sent out this letter

You can tell WHR readers a guest who was on your radio show before for hidden history as well as the brother of a frequent guest on your shows and site, was nearly tasered by police in North Carolina.

Police searched the motel reoom of three black men after they had left and gone to dinner. The owner of the hotel saw what was happening and interviened to say they could not be secretly searching the rooms of guests without a warrent.

Police found nothing in the room but threaten to taser the motel owner. The excuse to do a secret search was "probable Cause" the typical BS police throw up to justify anything they want.

Here ith e 4th amendment memorize it.

The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized

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"supported by Oath or affirmation" because that way if the cops were wrong the courts have someone to point the finger at. yeah, this is supposed to make the cops think twice about jsut jumping the gun every chance they get and ABUSING their executive power.

cops are a part of the executive branch of gov't as is the pres. of the country. the execs are always abusing the laws the legislative branch sets forth. this is why you go play ball in a court to see who wins and who loses.

I didn't know Hoke was Ry's brother, anyways that was some rough shit, glad you didn't get tased.

That's right Arron. And the reason for it is so the cops have to be responsible otherwise there is no consequence for unwarrented searches and nothing to hold them in check from just searching whoever they want.

And using Secret reports to do a Secret search, also done Secretly with no affirmation is called Gestapo.

Welcome to the USSA.

I reported this to eveyone I knew so its going to get hits today. minus our cpu limit crap.

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apparently they asked a house cleaner if they could search the room but they also told her they were investigaters and good reason to think these men were dealing drugs.

The problem is that several people called them... so they say. If that is true why did they call? These guys didn't do anything. I have had cops harrass me many times just for walking at night down the road and I am not black. I think the people who called the cops did so because these guys were black but I think the cops would have searched the room if they were white too.
do you let people smoke weed here they said. Well no. Then why are there seeds in the trash? I don't know. You don't know or don't care? I don't know how could I? Did you get the lisence plate? No I didn't know they did anything. Well what do you know? Well I thought you needed a warrant to search a room. do you want to get tazered? No. Then quit being a smart ass we had several calls. from who? we are not at liberty to say.

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It's so messed up that those we count on to uphold the law so blatantly bend and break it as a means to their desired end. I hate double standards.

So much for

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But in America laws and the contitution only apply if you are rich or part of the government.

It amzes me what the mob and corporate america are allowed to openly get away with.

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Honestly, my opinion is that if a cop wrongfully threatens to taze you, he just asked to be shot.

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How did they get into the room?

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How?

Let me lay down what happened.

Cops hit the scene. Guys are drug dealing; several reports (phoney or otherwise). They search out the guys and as-is, they have no right to search them or anything and they know it.

Cops approach a representative of the motel and request to search the room. When you sign that motel contract for the night, you're allowing them to comply with police searches. Which means you've consented to allowing them to search your room should hotel mangement say OK. Same thing with leasing an apartment or house; read the fine print. If the cleaning lady was the only one on the premisis at the time, she is management.

Cops search the room, don't find any drugs. They search a waste bin, find pot seeds. Weak evidence but it gets their conviction up and gets them excited since they've got a quota and if they fulfill it, they get raises.

They confront the 3 black guys and intimidate them as a tactic to get them afraid and confess. At this point, they have no evidence.



How would I have reacted in this situation?

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Cop: "If you do not tell me where the drugs are I will tase you".

Me: "Sir, may I get your name and badge ID or business card?"

Cop: Cop will give you the information. If they do not, then state to them you are going inside with your friends as they have no legal right to detain you as they are not cops. Write it down, and start writing.

Me: Sir, that is a verbal threat. I understand you are intimidating me, however, as-is you have no evidence and I am non-combative. This action reflects very poorly upon the professional conduct I expect from my department and compromises both their saftey and professional trust. I will be reporting your actions to the sheriff.

Additionally, I would very much like to see you tase me. You have no evidence. I will press assualt charges, talk to the sheriff and request your termination for excessive use of force, and I will sue your department for damages. That will get the cop to back off; you are stating you know your rights.

2: Consent to the search if you have nothing to hide; this will gain the cops trust and make them feel guilty. I had a cop come up to me once, a female, mabye 200 pounds. She said "I had a 911 call from this location for domestic violence". I stated nobody is here but myself, accounted for everyone who lived in the home, and stated I made no such call. She said "Can I look around", I said, as friendly as can be "Sure". . 3 minutes later she's sweating hard and has an adrenaline rush not knowing what to expect as I show her around each room; I'm well over 400 pounds and can easily kill her at a moments notice so she's a bit freaked. Nobody is home, she has nothing. She leaves, confused and rather distressed, I tell her "Thanks for checking up Ma'am, have a nice day! I hope you find the jackass!" and leave. I know she was feeling rather dirty, afraid, and confused after doing that. After the first few rooms she didn't want to search anywhere else I even said to her "Well there's the garage over there and a crawl space down here".

If you plain don't like being searched, state "I do not consent to any searches Sir" and lock your briefcase/backpack, etc. If they want to search they will try any weak-ass excuse they can find, and they'll treat you as much of an ass as you treat them. Quite simply, they take shit day in and day out, and they love nothing more than to deal it. 10 assholes treat them like shit and the 11th makes the mistake, so the 11th get all the shit the 10 dished out. That's how it works.

More than likely the cop was going to tase buddy because he was getting up in his face and getting angry from being threatened. Most people react and become combative when threatened by police; it's stupid of the police to do it.

yall dont get it. The cops ARE the drug dealers in this area.

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the police state has stopped becoming something you read about. Now it is something you have to deal with.

This should be a huge red flag to everyone.

Good work on confronting these goons General.

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Thanks tryrranzxx. I guess I should have realized that.
Your idea to get tasered and sue won't work our for you if you're one of the unlucky 2%? who die.

I'm not sure about a solution to this. The search law is fine for catching lawbreakers, but blows for the innocent, or those who break victimless and/or BS laws.

Who decided tasers were such a great idea for ALL cops to carry?
My guess: the taser manufacturer.

I vote for don't consent to a search, ever, unless they have the warrant.

In fact, don't even let them in your house upon greeting them, not a foot over the threshold without a warrant. Step outside and close the door behind you to converse. By letting them in, you open your own can of worms. Who cares if they come up with nothing and feel guilty? I'd rather make them feel stupid for trying to break the law on my property. Show me that a judge thinks you have a damn good reason to pilfer through my livingroom. Otherwise, beat sand, Copper. That is your constitutional right, and you should hold on dearly to every single one you can still exercise.

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the cops searched the room after asking a house cleaner they never talked to management.

The cops here also deal drugs and have for years and they let their relatives deal drugs.

these 3 black guys didn't do anything. the seeds could have come from anywhere. I know all the cops and went to school with them it is a VERY small town. I have seen some of the cops do drugs all be it before they were cops.

I had a cop pull a tazer on me for not wearing a seat belt before. Some of them are just pigs.

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Sounds like they need a hobby. And a free ticket to the gun show.

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I have seen the videos where a mouth y patriots quotes the constitution and says things like I dont consent bla bla. unfortuneately in Reality unless you get it all of video none of that will mean shit because they will just taser you anyway and lie and say you hit them or were resisting etc.

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