Anti-Neocons

that is because there is no god(s).

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In the Quran, God has said:

“God does not forbid you from showing kindness and dealing justly with those who have not fought you about religion and have not driven you out of your homes. God loves JUST actions.” (_Quran 60:8_)

To kill an innocent life it is as if you killed humanity ,to save an innocent life is as if you saved humanity ... the blessed Quran...

http://Islamic-s.webs.com

my dad is one of the most devout protestant Christians i have ever encountered in my lifetime. i used to (somewhat as a result of brainwashing) believe myself, but eventually gave up on it just because as someone who's skeptical about everything, i just couldn't justify believing in some deity who's only evidence of existence is a book with not only many translations, but even more interpretations of these translations. as someone who knows a decent bit about the bible and what it teaches (i have a few passages committed to memory even) i think it's important to note that the way fundamentalist Christians and other judeo-christian based faiths interpret these writings and apply them to their political and moral beliefs, is not necessarily what the bible teaches.
if you went to a bible college or somewhere and asked a random student about animal sacrifice for example, he would tell you that the old testament of the bible was merely an outline of god's divine prophecy and that the new testament overwrites it. yet they have no problem quoting the old testament when trying to justify the Israel lobby, saying things such as "god fought alongside the israelites in the old testament."

other proposed fallacies of the old testament don't even require this type of logic to debunk. take exodus 21-20 for example. i've heard many aetheists quote this saying that it advocates slavery and the beating of said slaves. i'd have to say even i disagree with this. the passage was (supposedly) written at a point in time when slavery was considered socially acceptable. the passage is basically saying that it's not ok to kill your slaves.

i guess my point ultimately though is that it's more beneficial to understand these writings and use them against neocons and/or Zionists (is there really a difference?) instead of attacking their religion and pointing out how archaic it is. i still personally adhere to a lot of the moral perspectives contained in the bible. i like the book of job as well as the passages dealing with the crucification of Paul, as i think they depict a sense of accountability and humility that is somewhat absent from eastern religions that deal with concepts like karma and re-incarnation. sure it's been used as a tool to instill fear and control the masses, as well as incite war in the past, but it's very important to understand that these things aren't really what the bible teaches. but if we're supposed to be recognizing the teachings of the new testament over the old testament, why aren't we turning the other cheak instead hunting philistines?

"A human being is a part of a whole, called by us _universe_, a part limited in time and space. He experiences himself, his thoughts and feelings as something separated from the rest... a kind of optical delusion of his consciousness. This delusion is a kind of prison for us, restricting us to our personal desires and to affection for a few persons nearest to us. Our task must be to free ourselves from this prison by widening our circle of compassion to embrace all living creatures and the whole of nature in its beauty." -einstein

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"A human being is a part of a whole, called by us 'universe', a part limited in time and space. He experiences himself, his thoughts and feelings as something separated from the rest... a kind of optical delusion of his consciousness. This delusion is a kind of prison for us, restricting us to our personal desires and to affection for a few persons nearest to us. Our task must be to free ourselves from this prison by widening our circle of compassion to embrace all living creatures and the whole of nature in its beauty." -Einstein

"A human being is a part of a whole, called by us _universe_, a part limited in time and space. He experiences himself, his thoughts and feelings as something separated from the rest... a kind of optical delusion of his consciousness. This delusion is a kind of prison for us, restricting us to our personal desires and to affection for a few persons nearest to us. Our task must be to free ourselves from this prison by widening our circle of compassion to embrace all living creatures and the whole of nature in its beauty." -einstein

Nice.

Einstein was an Atheist

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It's interesting to read Ry wants to break the Christian choke hold on morality. I concur and regret many of the important issues are debated in our society only between the proponents and church authorities armed with their almost carnival morality. The church has no moral force behind their arguments.

It is far better to step back philosophically and examine those who claim atheism however, than to continue arguing morality with the church.

The atheist has some moral authority, if it rings hollow. Here me out.

Virtually every belief humanity can embrace, requires a belief in a higher being, if just to assure us we actually do have some reason behind our thinking. It has been known a very long time, REASON is a lawyer who can argue effectively either side of any argument. And as such, it means nothing unless there is an effective guiding hand steering humanity toward the truth.

This is not thought to be a conscious guiding hand by the atheists, but rather the required animism is thought to exist that assures our competence simply because WE ARE rational and reaasonable animals. It's a specious notion at best that quickly disintegrates into a "because" argument that holds no water without placing the guiding hand of humanity upon a pedestal high above humanity itself, another god of sorts.

The reason for this is humanity has leap-frogged beyond the knowledge to assess itself competent.

What is required is to re-assess ALL human beliefs in the light that these are all religions of one sort or another.

And while some can and will continue to bemoan religion effectively, it is clearly science that has put humanity at the greatest risk of itself. Humanity simply IS NOT competent to handle the dangerous tools of science provided by scientists who have for centuries claimed they are amoral.

The most cogent argument for morality I have heard is described thus:

The moral imperative of life is to live a life that detracts not at all from the lives available to those who will follow us into this world.

But scientists who proclaim amoral immunity and an intellectual freedom to develop their destructive technologies are clearly not abiding by their moral responsibilities to the future.

But then neither is any church I know of living up to its moral responsibility to the future.

Some Christian churches in the carnival atmosphere of fire and brimstone showmanship actually espouse that they look forward to the destruction of the earth.

Anyone who believes this is clearly no better than a terrorist, and in my mind, actually much worse.

Most of the votes are coming in the future. Who are we to allow anyone alive today to destroy or ruin the world for them?

Over population is the big moral problem today. And, I will state it unequivocally even as unpopular as the opinion is.

Any woman who has more children than a child or two, is simply immoral.

Don Robertson, The American Philosopher

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Don Robertson, The American Philosopher

God(s) or no God(s), never underestimate the human capacity to become corrupt, greedy, & abusive of their believes.

But never underestimate humanity to discover truth, to give & receive love, and to fight for justice wherever he is.

What gives you the right to judge this?

Just curious I pose a question: Under who's authority are you acting under?


If you can answer soon I'd appreciate it.

'Religion' is a construct that invites fear and strife. I know some of the most religious people today and they are unhappy due to being trapped.

Religion is a problem becuase its a constricted belief system and its not grounded at all or truly seasoned.

For that matter there is a God and aetheism is certainly no less - - - "A Construct"

Its an important distinction to make because so often people trap themselves into one view. I don't believe in all the nonsense that religions attempt to expouse, but I do believe in a higher power easily.

And with that I am at ease with things the way they are. I follow the subject of forgiveness and repentence, certainly but I do not choose to abide by a construct.

I know many friends of mine who tried to abide by the construct and it didn't work out at all, they just had to go discover the truth themselves and that to me is what is good and 'moral'.

Today's definition of morality would have you believe you must confine yourself to a pine box, to me this is the key deception, its a trap. No friend I have at the LDS Church or Saint John's group has ever been happy following or living inside a construct especially based on lies.

I even know that my good friend's brother was killed in the war and he is now drinking heavily and doing whatever he does, but its for the best & he's got to walk his own path.

He will be much stronger in the end than any of those who follow the gospel today, because he will have tasted the fruits of all worldly disease which is what we have today an epidemic of immorality.

He should never have to apologize and I support his journey. Everyone's journey is their own that is the ultimate underlying truth, they must experience it and go on it, and therefore choose themselves.