Anti-Neocons

Gulf of Tonkin all over again! On the day of the NH voting how perfectly timed.

On the day of the NH voting how perfectly timed.

I just don't believe this at all. First off, it would be absolutely retarded for Iran to start a war. They stand to gain nothing. Furthermore, it would be even more dumb if they were going to do it to do it by attacking some dinky cruisers instead of launching say missiles into Saudi oil fields or at the green zone in Iraq. Sinking a boat and then in response getting bombed back to the stone age in an air strike would be just what the US wanted not Iran. Iran would not start this war, they already have the moral high ground and no real chance of winning. However if they were going to risk starting a war they would be able to do a lot more damage by any number of strategies that even a civilian can think of because it is that obvious.

Rememeber this from two days ago? Israel to brief George Bush on options for Iran strike



Ha ha Israel also had "rock solid" evidence that Iraq had WMDs.

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"Harassed" can mean anything. Is this a media scare/distraction or something else?

with the help of Israel. Fresh info just in

http://www.informationclearinghouse.inf ... e19010.htm

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already posted that a couple days ago about Israel
http://www.rys2sense.com/anti-neocons/viewtopic.php?t=10869

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JUST FUCKING GREAT

My husband is saying "you were right" -- I've been waiting for this to happen

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And look at the timing of this crap. They stage an incident with Iran and exclude Paul from the debates and Bush is in Israel all on the same day. It will be easy for the Israelis to point to this and get Bush more revved up to start a war with Iran now with bush in Israel surrounded by them and them pointing at this and saying ah ha see?!

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I have a feeling this country is on idiot mode and are going to vote for the phonies. too much election hype these past couple days. im tired of seeing clinton/obama/romney/huckadouchebag on TV.

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and to take attention away from the exclusion.

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You already knew we have abunch of idiots (recall the last elections) dont give up though.

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I can honestly say I tried as hard as I could. I started campaigning for Ron Paul in 2005 just trying to get people to know who he is. I made this site, went on the radio drove activism made videos, got my whole family behind it. What else can we you do you know? We have to put up with the bias of the MSM and then Smears from internet kooks and socialist journalist and have a very uphill battle to climb.

There are just too many stupid people in America.

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Don't give up. There are a lot of people willing to fight with you. I am sorry to say this but you and I and everyone here and everyone supporting you and this site...we all might be just carrying the stick for the next runner. We have to keep at it.
By the way, things are changing. They really are. The internet has become such a big factor. Dividing people and keeping them focused on their own existence doesn't work as good as it did. Things will change even more the future generations. I'm certain of that.

I don't know if this crap is gonna go over, it'll probably fail like the forcing Iranians to take British soldiers prisoner thing. Here's the Iranian response.

ah dude no worry I never give up.

I have been fighting for Palestine so long and just look at how that has been turning out. I never stop.

This site has helped me stay charged though because it lets me join with like minded people and let people know about things they probably wouldn't have known about.

I was of the first to write about the PNAC connection to Iraq and 911, the first on AIPAC, Libby, Litvinenko, etc.

We are slowing winning. I mean Paul is bigger than he ever was before. AIPAC is on trial still at least, and more and more people know about Israel and 911 now no thanks to loose change but the new film is going to blow that one away.

I jutst ahad a break through today and it is being added.

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I'd like to know just what those US ships were doing there anyway. Where were they headed? I love how vague the media is in quoting people, "a US official has confirmed..." What US official? What's his name? Huh?
What bullshit.
Just imagine Bill Kristol and the rest and their MSM editorials and interviews that are about to come.
These NeoCons just don't take NO for an answer, they're like serial rapists.
That's it... they're ideological rapists.

Look at this goodie! Ron Paul warning about Gulf of Tonkin 2.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fRB3UBz1KEQ

This is a perfect example of what can happen with boys with penis envy get their toy boats too close together in the same bathtub. Like Ry said, as was my original thought, it just makes no sense to me. We have to understand that there are very likely elements within Iran that would like to see a conflict, heck oil is up, so somebody is liking this. But obviously, this is not the sentiment of the government or country at large. While I take the reports from pressTV (remember, it's state run news) with a grain of salt, our own fascist corporate owned media and government have lost all credibility with me. It's not the five boats they're worried about, it's the Chinese low flying supersonic missles that can take out destroyers and carriers. An attack would have likely had disastrous consequenses for both sides.

I tell you what, I'm about done with people and this mad world. Insane people ruled by insane leaders. There's not much we can do if they start another conflict. It may be what's needed to dismantle the empire, but that will have disastrous consequences for both the USA and Iran. I will forge ahead, but we are merely the beginning and so is Ron Paul. I have long told people in our meetup group that it should not dissolve with the election or non-election of Dr. Paul. We have to push forward until it is illegal to do so, which may not be very far off. An event is needed to push this agenda onward, it has stagnated, don't you all think?

It's probably a total staged false flag operation/provacation w/Iran actually having done nothing wrong.

I should have worked harder. After the George Galloway thing, I gotta say Im feeling hopeless.....

The news of NH is good though.

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What?

Dude, Israel is mostly like who pulled this stunt. think about it Bush is visiting Israel right now Bush arrives in the morning and they pulled this stunt last night. All the media reporting on it is annonymous... lol.

I doubt anything happened at all not even a fake attack I think they flat out just made it up. I mean how can Iran prove they didn't have aboat in the area etc. This reminds me of Israel's two "kidnapped" soldiers which is what they used to start a war with Lebanon. They were never returned even in the cease fire and even with the UN negotiating Israel never pushed to have them released. I doubt they even existed.

And oil is up because the dollar is down not because there is really any less oil. In the price of gold oil prices have remained flat the whole time since 2003. In the price of dollars it has risen 300%.

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"It doesn't matter who we are underneath. It is what we do that defines us." Batman

"If a tree falls in the woods and no one is there to hear it or see it.
Would Israel still blame it on Iran?"-Ry Dawson

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Obviously. For one thing there are most likely Mossad and CIA operatives/assets inside Iranian borders that are working towards this.

And.... do they have rednecks/hicks in Iran? How about a Fox News? Maybe some ignorant, Earth-is-10,000-years-old preacher that believes war with America/Israel guarantees the coming of heaven on Earth? If so then I reckon there are a select few who would want to see war. But I've never been to Iran so I don't know


Furthermore, on a more serious note: The timing coincidences that were brought up didn't mention the recent AIPAC trial date moving again. As everyone here is aware, they are indeed running out of time for this war. Sorry to state the obv...

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I wonder what the Iranian media says about the U.S.

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Any more info on this? I did see some reports from Iranian TV with pictures of it happening. Iranian TV basically said nothing happened, nothing at all. Perhaps nothing did.

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Ry, it is also likely that nothing happened, but I'm trying to work with what we have heard from MSM. It was probably that something happened, but not like this. The reports of the boats leaving as soon as the order was given to fire is very telling however.

Ian, yes Iran has Neocons, they are called hardliners, aka Ahmedinijad, and they suck just as bad as our Neocons, well maybe not as bad. I have been studying the politics of Iran a little bit and I am surprised at how many similarities I find in what is happening over there.

Yes Iran has it's share of idiots but even those in Iran who would want a war would not be tactically foolish enough to start it like that.

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"It doesn't matter who we are underneath. It is what we do that defines us." Batman

"If a tree falls in the woods and no one is there to hear it or see it.
Would Israel still blame it on Iran?"-Ry Dawson

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The video was fake. The incident never happened.

EDIT: You won't believe this, but the newspaper websit where I just read the news changed it to "The IRANIANS say the video is fake." How about that, huh.