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From the start, like as of 9-11, or as of fall 2002 or early 2003, say? I wouldn't have guessed around 9-11, given I hadn't yet heard or read anything about Iraq being accused or targeted, to any degree. But as of Fall 2002, it was obvious that the war could not be justified, with or without UN weapons inspections. We didn't need those to know the answer was 'NO' to the idea of war on or with Iraq.

When we realise something that clearly and strongly, then it's also obvious that the war is for unstated reasons, and then it's easy enough to figure out what the possibilities and likelihoods are.

Just like the war on Afghanistan was obviously one that could not be justified and on the simple basis that Bush said, and before launching the war on the Taliban, which he made adequately if not totally clear was going to be against them, well, he clearly told the whole world that they had had NOTHING to do with the 9-11 attacks. So we could immediately realise that the war was being commanded for OTHER reasons, that these were not stated, and the war would be aggression, which is criminal. So it's then time to seek what the hidden reasons may be. I couldn't then do that, given that I didn't have access to a PC, so much less Internet, from 2000 to spring 2002; but was able to pick up what Bush told the whole world over tv broadcasts. Usama Bin Ladin and Al Qaeda, which Bush had said only had relations with the Taliban govt, were not justification for war on that govt.

After all, to think otherwise is to think in hegemonic and hypocritical terms, and that's criminal; while all of this is just to say the least of what it all is, it's the elementary part.

It's simple. All we need to be is against war unless absolutely necessary for DEFENCE, strictly. There was no question of credible defence of the U.S. vis-a-vis either the Taliban or Saddam Hussein's govts. The UN weapons inspections worked greatly, and we had the recent enough U.S. and NATO gangster war on former President Slobodan Milosevic and the Kosovo area to keep in mind.

I don't think I've heard of whether or not the UNSC had authorized the war on the Taliban until very recently, and which said the answer is negative; no authorization. It's very odd that this is VERY RARELY said; and this is disappointing.

Given that France, Russia and some other countries with states that are members of the UNSC voted against war on Iraq, I guess these countries had populations that were majoritively against the war. Perhaps that was also true with respect to war on the Taliban, too; if what I read about the UNSC not having authorized this war is true.

I tried to find the answer to that question with the UN's website, but wasn't successful; and there should be a website that shows the ways in which the UNSC has voted. We should be able to look up this sort of information very easily.



OUCH. I have never heard or read any good about AOL, but it did seem to have a lot of users. As for myspace, was Murdoch owner when your files were erased there? I would expect that that warmonger and pro-fascist and -corporatist owning myspace would mean that he does direct censorship, to some extent anyway.

It's interesting to read his profile there; coming right out and acknowledging or professing that he is these ways and wants to be; although am not sure to recall if he mentioned the warmonger part. I think the profile made 'warmonger' clear enough, if it's not explicitly stated by him.



Yep, and I haven't read the article yet, but there's a recent one that says that the France-Belgium OIL consortium or corporation, Total or TotalElf, how ever it is called, is now getting in on this "game". This is according to EINNews.com anyway; but I can't access the article, given a free-trial subscription requires a credit card and I don't have one. The following Web search produced links to two EINNews articles for me; one of Aug. 9th and the other of Aug. 8th, according to the list of search results anyway.

Google.ca

If by the time people trying that search link it doesn't produce the two EINNews links, then maybe changing "Total and Chevron" to "Total, Chevron" will do the "trick". The search results listing had the latter as part of either the article's text, or the title.

I'd like to read the piece but haven't the means. It'd be good to know if these are already agreed contracts and if so, then who authorized these; etc. Sarkozy can't keep his greedy hands of Iraqis' oil; has to join "The Boys".

"The Boys", I say; where did I get that? From the account provided by Kay Griggs and about her very short-term marriage with some U.S. military colonel who was assassin and trained others to be assassins for "The Boys". You've surely heard of this story, while I've only been able to read some articles about it; and for readers not aware of the story, then a Web search simply using her name turns up plenty of links, while the 7.5-hour interview with some pirate radio priest in the U.S. is or was available at http://www.KayGriggsTalks.com .



By 'Mob', and from I've read in articles, or elsewhere at KGT, she's not speaking of the Cosa Nostra Mafia; if recalling correctly.

Anyway, do you have input on that? Some of the 'ON ASSASSINS' part above strikes me as likely enough, but while some also seems like maybe she's exaggerating or not wholly sure of what she's talking about and therefore speculating based on only what she thinks or imagines; something like that anyway.

What's said in the rest of the page strikes me as fine and important information from her, but ... as per just above, on that one part.

It's such a rarely mentioned topic that this causes me to wonder about the veracity of it; yet it sure seems like it's probably true, for the most part anyway. People who believe what she says should have no difficulty in realizing that 9-11, and minimally, most likely was 'inside job'; far more likely than not.

Some Nova Scotian studying at a local university told me not long ago that she had heard that Kay Griggs had been charged with some crime, prosecuted and convicted, but there's no mention of this at KGT.

KG is oddly not censored at myspace; or I think it's odd, anyway. I've read of enough people who strike me as writing well on GWoT matters and who've been also censored at myspace, so am a little surprised about her. It's only her profile though and maybe these normally aren't removed (?). I don't know; not be a user of myspace, and disliking it, "plain and simple".

Actually, here's the article which I had bookmarked and should have checked for before the last post, and on FRANCO-BELGIAN OIL CONGLOMERATE 'TOTAL' OR 'TOTALELF' getting in on the OIL thievery "game" of the U.S. in Iraq.

"US and French Oil Conglomerates Share the Spoils of War", San Francisco Chronicle, Aug. 9, 2007,

http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php? ... a&aid=6495

sart as in a little before 911 because I was already working for Palestinian solidarty and I saw who sold short and had already read the PNAC papers so as soon as it happened I knew who did it. But at the time I only had an AOL website and I had never heard of WRH or Alex Jones or any of that. KUCI radio did an interview with me few years ago before I had things up on this site and I went over 911 there and Libby etc. That was october 05 the reason I was on the show was because the host had been one of my readersd on myspace I actually started the 911 truth group there from anti-neocnos but my groups were erased and Taylor took it over you can ask him about it.

I was and still am not a "computer guy" I did do radio shows wrote a book started groups in college talked on the news and run this site but mostly I was behind internetwise at getting the message out because I simply didn't know how or where to promote things.

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Yep, myspace sure is NO place to make "home" on the Web. As much as your group(s) got wiped out, and what I read about others who strike me as people providing goood input also had their content removed, I don't know why people would want to use the website. I already disliked it very much because it works very LOUSY with my Web browser and takes a long time to load, when it did load; but people providing good input and that getting wiped out is outright censorship. Anyway, I've never been a user of myspace because it's a lousy website service for me; only came across a few links to articles there.

It might be easier for people like you to get more quickly known in such websites, but I think having your own like this one, here, and the same applies to Aaron's discussion forum, this is better; imo anyway. It's my preferrence as a user.

You have fair enough traffic, people who post, and that's all Aaron's forum lacks; users who post. Once you have enough who participate, then it's a question of enough of the users doing enough reading elsewhere for cross-posting links to and/or copies of qualitative articles.

Intuition is another consideration; it's intuitively better to have one's own website, when a person can. People who really can't just can't, but if we can, then the owner is the one who decides what content is acceptable or not; the owner's the boss over the website. And we know that a lot of people are prone to censorship, for a lot of websites practice this and while I'm speaking of qualitative and important articles to suggest people read.

And I intuitively wouldn't want to use a website owned by warmonger and pro-fascist and -corporatist Murdoch. I don't know when he bought out myspace, but came across an article this past week about him having now bought out WSJ, Wall Street Journal, either directly, or maybe because of Dow Jones; something like that anyway. This sort of crap business "wheeling and dealing" should be stopped dead in its tracks.

BTW, who's the guy in the avatar image associated with this post, the "Stop the money changers" avatar? I didn't select any avatar, not even having thought about it, but "stop the money changers" sounds like it should be fitting.

Oh I ha a separate site on AOL tat was there since 2001 that got wiped out in 2005 when I predicted the 7/7 bombing.


We have the truth. I dont know what people are waiting for. Do you really need the News or some talking head to make it "official" by saying yes 911 was a false flag operation on TV? It is NOT going to happen.

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I don't need any of that, but "what people are waiting for" is something I can't answer. Some are aware but just won't get involved in any of these matters, they won't join activist groups, etc., and just hope that things will somehow be worked out the way is needed, or, else, we're all going down and it's just a time of swimming or sinking on an individual basis.

Other people don't have the character to get involved, and while yet others don't want to consider that their govt could possibly be guilty of committing flase flag terrorism and on their own nation. Etc.

I read an article some time back and the author, who I thought was Howard Zinn, but maybe not, well, he said that it's been a historical generality for populations to be split in three ways. Around 1/3 will be the pro-warmonger, -fascist, etc., segment of the population. Another 1/3 will be the activists variably but all trying to contribute to stopping the former. And the remaining 1/3 are often aware of the pro-warmonger, etc., wrongs but don't care, thinking only of themselves. The latter won't particularly side with either of the other two 1/3 segments, so 2/3; only thinking of themselves.

The article said that this is the general way populations have historically been, and I'm no historian and have never read this from anyone else.

We might be lacking details pertaining to the whole truth, but we have enough of it to be able to know what needs to be done and which should have been done several years ago.

Israel was created by the US they are only 60 years old. They were created as a giant cash cow and are the root of corruption. Man Ry that blog had to take forever. I wish our mass media would at least read it.

I think that that can be refined a little, but while agreeing with it. Anyway, and f.e., "Israel was created by the US .... ... as a giant cash cow for the M.I.C., and all while also USING Zionists' psychopathic insanity for achieving this big profit outcome, as well as for cover, because of all of the overtness that the Zionists operate with given that they are protected by their cash cow profiteering U.S.".

Something like that anyway. I add the 'cover, because of overtness ...' part because of how Zionism strongly strikes me. I've been discussing the topic of what party is TOP BOSS with respect to the controllers of the U.S. govt over in a Facebook group. The sole to exchange is Habeas ... (something-or-other), and he claims that Zionists fully control the U.S. govt, the Pentagon, CFR, etc., etc. Habeas names names, Perle, Feith, Wolfowitz, Kissinger, Abrahms, etc., etc.; and they're all involved, but such a list of people is not about what strikes me most of all. I don't disagree that Zionists are definitely "players" in this major league "game", definitely seeking to profit en masse from this, but while not being top boss.

One indication that I employ to arrive at this above perspective is that the Zionists have been making themselves very obvious. How often do we find criminal organizations publicly making the kinds of extremely psychopathic and fully evil statements that the Zionist leadership of Israel (among other Zionist parties) has been doing for years now? VERY RARELY, and it, normally anyway, would only be due to a "slip of the tongue", after which that tongue is carefully monitored and controlled; if not cut out or the body it's attached to terminated.

The BIG OIL AND M.I.C. profiteers have been very silent. We don't hear or read of them coming out and publicly stating psychopathic things. We have not even heard or read of them promoting any of this warring; or, and if they have at all, then I guess it would've been with respect to launching the war on the Taliban, so shortly after 9-11. We did not hear or read of them making psychopathic promotion of the war on Iraq, and we're not getting any with respect to potential war on Iran, while additionally not reading or hearing of them promoting continuation of the war on the Taliban and thereby Central Asia. Nor do we read or hear of them promoting what the instrumental U.S. enforcer is doing in Africa, and elsewhere.

The TOP BOSSES want to avoid public exposure, wanting to stay as unnoticed as possible, of criminal course.

For that, the Zionists overtly provide a lot of distracting cover and can risk doing so, for this is VERY INSTRUMENTAL to the top MOB bosses, who will provide the necessary protection.

There're plenty of people who argue that the Zionists are in charge, and while based on statements from psychopaths like Ben. Netanyahu, among others. That, imo, is all appearance, and the people making these claims or arguments are not looking under the surface and are therefore ignoring the 'much else' that there is underneath or behind this surface.

That's the way that I SEE the situation; all of the profiteering parties being psychopathically criminal, but not all of them being the top bosses, who are surely not going to make themselves wholly obvious. The latter are working at not being obvious at all; just that there's no place for them to hide. They have superpower police state for protecting themselves, but that's also related to not having any place to hide.

Zionism is too clearly of an obviously deliberate overtness; although as insane as such people are, maybe it's not fully deliberate. There [must] be a very considerable degree of deliberation in this, even if not wholly complete, though; I think. Some of the Zionists involved may actually believe that they are working only for Zionist purpose, but this sure does not mean a whole lot in terms of who the really top bosses are. The latter can also believe it to be instrumental to not let all of the Zionist actors know everything, and likely do employ this approach. After all, only those parties really needing to know would be informed of all of the details of the whole operation.

Right? I think so, it's my perspective, but maybe I'm not considering some element(s).

So it's easy to realise that it's believable that the U.S. was responsible for putting the Zionists in to the newly formed state of Israel, establishing all of this; for it most surely was all preventable or avoidable. The Zionists could've surely all been rounded up and canned like tuna, dead or alive. It's not just believable; anything to the contrary would be unbelievable.

And it was surely something do-able by a government that dropped atomic bombs on Hiroshima and Nagasaki. !!

Blaming all of this on Zionists alone strikes me in a way that seems like most of what the following article says would be the fault of Zionists; and it'd be total nonsense to do that, imo. I think the article makes it very clear that it'd be wicked nonsense.

"The Language of Dominion", by Ken. Couesbouc, Aug 13 2007,

http://www.informationclearinghouse.inf ... e18174.htm

Lastly, and for readers who haven't read it yet, and wanting some update information on what's going on with respect to the planning with respect to Iraq's OIL, these people may want to have read the following article.

"U.S. and French Oil Conglomerates Share the Spoils of War", SF Chron., Aug 9 2007,

http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php? ... a&aid=6495

They have some BIG PLANS for Iraqis' oil. A number of U.S. oil corporations are specified, and Sarkozy can't keep his greedy hands away from Iraq's oil, now.

We have the same thing planned for Africa's, Central Asia's or Eurasia's, Canada's, Mexico's, "pretty" much all of the world's oil and other main or very profitable natural resources, so there's no surprise with regards to Iraqis' oil. There are the slight differences in the approaches to obtaining control of these resources, like U.S. warring in Africa being much more covert than in Iraq, and surely not wanting to use any military campaign to capture Ca's and Mexico's resources; but the reasons for varying the approaches are strategically understandable or discernable without much difficulty too.

How could Zionism be top controller of all of this BIG OIL and M.I.C. scheming and profiteering, or gangsterism? I don't and possibly could not see how.

If any of the above strikes you as correctable, then pass on the input, s.v.p. I've gone through all of this for several years now on my own and reading from informative writers, and the above is the perspective arrived at.

They are not just "using" Zionism. They believe in it. The reason to incorporate religion is because of the Christian sects in America each investing 4 to 8 billion dollars into the defense companies involved in the Israeli conflict alone. The religion card and the race card are what protects them from exposure. Everyone knows that if you speak out against Israel that idiots cannot tell the difference between that and Jews in general. However if you speak out against North Korea nobody cares and no one associates that with Asians in general or Koreans in general.

The American did not create Israel the British did and it was not really the British it was the Rothschilds. The MIC does not use Israel they are Israel. Israel is their right hand. Israel ties into all that religious wealth more investors come from that than anywhere else. Churches pay for more of it than our government. Aid to Israel ills about 3 billion a year one sect of one church pays twice that. It should be re-named MICR R for religion. However the I covers it because Churches are Industries when you break it down they are tax free multi-national corporations that make money from lying to people and profiting from wars.

It is like Racism was part of the African slave trade. Sure there were a ot of economic motives to have slaves. But that doesn't mean they were just Using racism. They certainly were racist.

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