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I have had the theory from the start.
From the start, like as of 9-11, or as of fall 2002 or early 2003, say? I wouldn't have guessed around 9-11, given I hadn't yet heard or read anything about Iraq being accused or targeted, to any degree. But as of Fall 2002, it was obvious that the war could not be justified, with or without UN weapons inspections. We didn't need those to know the answer was 'NO' to the idea of war on or with Iraq.
When we realise something that clearly and strongly, then it's also obvious that the war is for unstated reasons, and then it's easy enough to figure out what the possibilities and likelihoods are.
Just like the war on Afghanistan was obviously one that could not be justified and on the simple basis that Bush said, and before launching the war on the Taliban, which he made adequately if not totally clear was going to be against them, well, he clearly told the whole world that they had had NOTHING to do with the 9-11 attacks. So we could immediately realise that the war was being commanded for OTHER reasons, that these were not stated, and the war would be aggression, which is criminal. So it's then time to seek what the hidden reasons may be. I couldn't then do that, given that I didn't have access to a PC, so much less Internet, from 2000 to spring 2002; but was able to pick up what Bush told the whole world over tv broadcasts. Usama Bin Ladin and Al Qaeda, which Bush had said only had relations with the Taliban govt, were not justification for war on that govt.
After all, to think otherwise is to think in hegemonic and hypocritical terms, and that's criminal; while all of this is just to say the least of what it all is, it's the elementary part.
It's simple. All we need to be is against war unless absolutely necessary for DEFENCE, strictly. There was no question of credible defence of the U.S. vis-a-vis either the Taliban or Saddam Hussein's govts. The UN weapons inspections worked greatly, and we had the recent enough U.S. and NATO gangster war on former President Slobodan Milosevic and the Kosovo area to keep in mind.
I don't think I've heard of whether or not the UNSC had authorized the war on the Taliban until very recently, and which said the answer is negative; no authorization. It's very odd that this is VERY RARELY said; and this is disappointing.
Given that France, Russia and some other countries with states that are members of the UNSC voted against war on Iraq, I guess these countries had populations that were majoritively against the war. Perhaps that was also true with respect to war on the Taliban, too; if what I read about the UNSC not having authorized this war is true.
I tried to find the answer to that question with the UN's website, but wasn't successful; and there should be a website that shows the ways in which the UNSC has voted. We should be able to look up this sort of information very easily.
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Only my websites were all deleted in 2005 without a reason. AOL erased my entire name not just my sites and myspace erased me 5 times in one month.
OUCH. I have never heard or read any good about AOL, but it did seem to have a lot of users. As for myspace, was Murdoch owner when your files were erased there? I would expect that that warmonger and pro-fascist and -corporatist owning myspace would mean that he does direct censorship, to some extent anyway.
It's interesting to read his profile there; coming right out and acknowledging or professing that he is these ways and wants to be; although am not sure to recall if he mentioned the warmonger part. I think the profile made 'warmonger' clear enough, if it's not explicitly stated by him.
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and yes it is a global war OF terrorism with the US the UK and Israel doing what they have always done.
Yep, and I haven't read the article yet, but there's a recent one that says that the France-Belgium OIL consortium or corporation, Total or TotalElf, how ever it is called, is now getting in on this "game". This is according to EINNews.com anyway; but I can't access the article, given a free-trial subscription requires a credit card and I don't have one. The following Web search produced links to two EINNews articles for me; one of Aug. 9th and the other of Aug. 8th, according to the list of search results anyway.
Google.caIf by the time people trying that search link it doesn't produce the two EINNews links, then maybe changing "Total and Chevron" to "Total, Chevron" will do the "trick". The search results listing had the latter as part of either the article's text, or the title.
I'd like to read the piece but haven't the means. It'd be good to know if these are already agreed contracts and if so, then who authorized these; etc. Sarkozy can't keep his greedy hands of Iraqis' oil; has to join "The Boys".
"The Boys", I say; where did I get that? From the account provided by Kay Griggs and about her very short-term marriage with some U.S. military colonel who was assassin and trained others to be assassins for "The Boys". You've surely heard of this story, while I've only been able to read some articles about it; and for readers not aware of the story, then a Web search simply using her name turns up plenty of links, while the 7.5-hour interview with some pirate radio priest in the U.S. is or was available at
http://www.KayGriggsTalks.com .
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Kay Griggs was a Southern divorcee who rented a room to Marine Corps colonel George Griggs in the late 1980s. She was impressed by his clipped manner, his education, his good looks. Two months later she married him. What she found out about world affairs as George Griggs' wife was astounding.
Colonel Griggs was a Marine Corps Chief of Staff, as well as head of NATO's Psychological Operations. He was also, his wife realized, entirely mind-controlled. Kay, a self-declared Christian, became privy to the real workings of the United States military, leadership training, drug-running and weapons sales, and the secret worldwide camps that train professional assassins.
These interviews with Pastor Rick Strawcutter of Adrian, Michigan were conducted in 1998, .... Kay Griggs' report of world events and the power elite paints a picture that begins to explain the hows and whys of our current global scenario.
Quotes from Kay Griggs:
"They took with them the most perverted aspects of Nazi Germany and brought them over to the United States."
"They get rid of the good guys. The Marine Corps are the assassins for the Mob. The military is run by the Mob. The military IS the Mob."
"He told me what they did. They nurture -- they cultivate -- the sons of prominent families. They're called "rising stars." They rope them in. Then they "turn" them."
ON ASSASSINS: "What my husband does for a living is train mercenaries -- young boys from countries like Romania, Dominican Republic, Haiti. They're training them to be murderers, and the taxpayers' dollars are paying for this. They psychologically profile them. The profile is similar to my husband's and Lee Harvey Oswald's and [Timothy] McVeigh's, and others who were all part of this program. Jeffrey Dahmer was part of this program. They're all Army. They were all picked out because they were perverted or twisted. [The military profiles for] strong mother, weak father, no father, poor. Because these guys are looking for security, so they will stay in the military and do anything for that security." (Interviews, Disk 1)
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By 'Mob', and from I've read in articles, or elsewhere at KGT, she's not speaking of the Cosa Nostra Mafia; if recalling correctly.
Anyway, do you have input on that? Some of the 'ON ASSASSINS' part above strikes me as likely enough, but while some also seems like maybe she's exaggerating or not wholly sure of what she's talking about and therefore speculating based on only what she thinks or imagines; something like that anyway.
What's said in the rest of the page strikes me as fine and important information from her, but ... as per just above, on that one part.
It's such a rarely mentioned topic that this causes me to wonder about the veracity of it; yet it sure seems like it's probably true, for the most part anyway. People who believe what she says should have no difficulty in realizing that 9-11, and minimally, most likely was 'inside job'; far more likely than not.
Some Nova Scotian studying at a local university told me not long ago that she had heard that Kay Griggs had been charged with some crime, prosecuted and convicted, but there's no mention of this at KGT.
KG is oddly not censored at myspace; or I think it's odd, anyway. I've read of enough people who strike me as writing well on GWoT matters and who've been also censored at myspace, so am a little surprised about her. It's only her profile though and maybe these normally aren't removed (?). I don't know; not be a user of myspace, and disliking it, "plain and simple".
