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What is a meta-T? a meat-T or meta thread is when I take a bunch of related threads that have been lost in cyber time and place them all together. This one is mostly on Blackwater, Jerry Falwell/Christian Zionism but also about these Neoocn faction and 911/Iraq. It all tied together. The next thread I will tie these crooks in with the Oligarchs and show the grand picture.


Let's weave this puzzle together.

Ok so most of you all know that Britannia Aviation got a 5 year contract to move to Virginia and run a maintenance facility at the Lynchburg Virginia Regional Airport. Now this was a shell company as it had at the start a whopping two employees and was worth 750 dollars. They worked out of one hanger at the Venice, Florida airport (run by Huffman Aviation) the same place where "Atta" AKA the Mossad's (double) allegedly was trained for 911.

Now remember that "Atta" was spotted on Jack Abramoff's casino ships on September 5th 2001 just 6 days before the attack. "Atta" as Anti-neocons readers know was spotted in two places at once on more than one occasion. He also left a bag of goodies for the FBI to find including a list of the 19 said hijackers and most miraculous of all it was Atta's stolen passport which somehow survived the inferno and collapse of the twin towers and was discovered (planted) near ground Zero by the FBI.

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Now check this out

Jack Abramoff of course ripped off Native Americans fro 13 Billion dollars and his partner in crime was Roger Stone. Stone was also the crook who organized a mob to shut down the recount in Florida after the Bush/Gore election. Stone financed Christian evangelical Al Sharpton. Sharpon was of course caught up his own drug smuggling scandals. Interestingly Jack Abramoff arranged trips for congressmen to islands know from sex slavery.

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Two years ago a HBO program called Real Sports with Bryant Gumbel showed a 19-year-old FBI videotape (1983) in which Al Sharpton is seen talking about laundering drug money with former mobster Michael Franzese, a Mafioso-turned-undercover-FBI informant posing as a cocaine dealer


Paul Martens Britannia's chief executive, during a Lynchburg City Council meeting said that his company had for some time been successfully providing aviation maintenance services for a Caribbean air carrier called Caribe Air. This airline was accused of smuggling drugs worth billions in shipments and had its planes seized.

Wally Hilliard the owner Huffman Aviation (with Britannia working in one hanger lol) the flight school in Florida where Atta was said to have trained, was busted in July 2000 with 30 pounds of heroine on his learjet. Note that Ariel Sharon had awared Jerry Falwell with a his own lear-jet for his support of Zionism. Jerry Falwell owed Wally Hillard over a million dollars in unpaid loans. Now a few million dollars would have been nothing for Jerry's school to pay but they could not pay it because every month Jerry stripped the accounts. He was collecting everything for himself. Jeb Bush seized flight school records at 2 AM on September 12. Interesting isn't it.

Well Jeb and Hilliard were friends. Jeb Bush usedHillard's charter service of lear-jets personally at virtually no cost even though they cost thousands.

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At the same time their planes were flying back and forth from Venezuela with illegal cargo Hillard's charter service was also, unbelievably, being utilized at virtually no cost––despite the fact that rentals for Lear-jets can run as high as $1,800 an hour––by Florida Governor Jeb Bush
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A good question is Why did Osama bin Laden choose Jeb Bush's Huffman Aviation terrorist flight school?

Why are these known Christian Evangelical Preachers, the Bush family, the Zionists in Israel, the drug smuggling, and the hijackers so close? Remember also that Ted Haggard the Holy Roller caught using crystalmeth and sleeping with a male prostitute was George Bush's spiritual advisor and according to a documentary by Richard Dawkins, claimed on tape that he talked to the president about once a week on the phone.

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Now these flight schools did not just deal in drugs. Pat Robertson another holy roller Christian Zionist also used them in his scams where he collected money to "aid" African nations yet all he shipped over was mining equipment to support a diamond mining company he was heavily invested in and remember that Roberston was a loud and open supporter of the Apartheid in South Africa. That alone is amazing because this guy is still on the air. He runs his own fake news shows which during the Iraq War he was showing maps on a setting similar to CNN to make it look like he was regular media. (not that there is much of a difference)

Roger Stone (financed Sharpton a drug smuggler) likes to go to sex orgies, Haggard (advisor to Bush) sees male prostitutes (while married) and is a hard drug user, Jerry owed money to a heroine smuggler Wally Hillard who had relations with Jeb Bush (brother in law to Blackwater executive), Roberston is involved with the same crook, and the 911 ring leader spotted on Abramoff's ship (Abramoff a crook who paied for congressmen to visit islands with sex slaves and partner of Roger Stone) is going to Hillard's school. Meanwhile a branch from that school is moved to Lynchburg even though it is a complete front company. And it maintenances planes for major airliners.

Karl Rove, Bush's former Key Advisor hired Jeff Gannon a male prostitute through a fake media front they created, Talon News. Gannon refferenced referenced internal government memos regarding the Plame affair before they were public. Remember that one of the leakers in the Plame Affair aside from Libby was Karl Rove. So Two Bush advisors are or cavort with male hookers and his brother Neil was caught with prostitutes in Asia and his brother Jeb flys with drug smugglers and is the brother-in-law to family convicted of rape and the bizar case of sexual molestation of a baby. What is wrong with these people? Speaking of the other Plame-gate leaker, Lewis Libby, he wrote abook aobut underage Japanese girls not only being raped by men but also a bear. These private mercenary groups like Blackwater (which Feilding is a lawyer for and Joseph Schmitz is an executive) and Dyncorp have been busted in the targeting of civilians and yes human trafficing. Congress and the Senate continue to grant them money anyway but then again our congressmen and Senators are caught up in plenty of their own pervert sex scandals. Just what do these men DO down at the Grove? Reminds me of the Franklin Credit Union affair.

Ok you got all that?

Enter Dov S. Zakheim
Who acquired 30 Boeing Planes and over saw with Northrup Grunman (who has such employees as Douglas Fieth their now former Attorney, Paul Wolfiwitz consultant for Northrup) which makes the technology for remote control planes.

Now if you don't know already how the PNAC authors and war profiteers are tied to 911 and Iraq go here. Or watch a video (less extensive than the report but still good) here


-my film on who did it and how we know.

The largest financeers of the Occupation are Christian Churches in the US and UK. 911 was an inside job/false flag carried out by the Mossad and elements of the MIC in the US. The policies were written by the Neocons and they actively lied about Iraq to start a war using 911 as the clout. Now Israel can blackmail the US with 911.

Image don't forget about this guy and the connections to Rove and Talon news. It is all in my book. Welcome to the USSA. Coruption in the Government and Media Unearthing the Neocon Camerilla.
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Black Water and Amway, Christian nuts have private armies.
What does Amway do besides con-people and sell over priced soaps? They take people on "retreats" and brainwash the indoctrinated and gather blackmail on them. They are forced to keep pushing the product. The Bill Britt family has sweat shops. The Billionaire DeVos family that co-founded scamway has deep ties to nazi-like Christian conservatives groups who are extremly prejudice towards homosexuals. They fund the campaigns of filth and with the Elzabeth DeVos Erik Prince marriage the two billionaire families of fundamentalist Christian crazies are in charge of their own private armies. (this is a lot like the old Christian"missionaries" of the past who always spearheaded land-grabs who the Africans sang about spreading the word with a gatlin-gun. Onward Christian soldier indeed.) If you want to get a better idea of what Churches actually are (multi-billion dollar tax free investors into the MIC) Then see this Protestant Churches invest billions in the Zionist occupation and this old video I made War-Church -back when I made the video the death counts were a lot lower than now which would be 3,333+ US and 650,00+ Iraqis.

The Dirt on Blackwater and Amway.

Remember Mary Kay Letourneau you know the woman who got pregnant after raping her 13 year old student? She is the sister of Joseph E. Schmitz who is a conservative lawyer, former Inspector General of the Department of Defense and executive with Blackwater USA. Her other brother is John P. Schmitz who was George Bush's White House counsel before being replaced by Fred Feilding (now Bush's personal lawyer) who was on the 911 commission and is also a lawyer for Blackwater. Feilding is helping blackewater cover up why 4 of their men were burned and hung on a bridge in Fallujah. The families want to why it happened but Blackwater is not talking. John P. Schmitz was also involved with Iran Contra back when he was an aid for Bush the first, and he refused to testify to the Walsh Commission. What a messed up family.

So we have a rapist, a inspector general who is the executive of a secretive mercenary group and a the former White House counsel who was replaced by a Blackwater lawyer who just so happened to also be on the 911 and is George Bush's personal lawyer as well. The Schmitz's father John G. Schmitz was a Senator and congressman from California. He was famous for his right-wing views and occasional racist and homophobic remarks. His public career was ended when it was revealed that he had an affair and fathered two illegitimate children. He got in trouble after his 13 month old son (of his mistress) was found with hair wrapped around his penis. I think that explains why his other legitimate children are so messed up. Just to get in this guys head, he bought the house of his hero Joseph McCarthy (Who I call a modern version of witch trial like fear menatlity for the insanely religious).

Jeb Bush married a Mexican woman named Columba. Columba Bush’s sister is married to John P. Schmitz Jeb Bush and John P. Schmitz are brother in laws. John and Joseph were both law clerks. Joseph was a clerk for the Neocon James Buckley the brother of the famous neocn William F. Buckley founder of the Neocon magazine the National Review.

So it is not really shocking given the sexually dyfunctional/criminal background of this hollyroller family that they would be involved with Abramoff and Jeb and Hoffman who are people involved in drug trade, bizzar sex affairs and top Christian evangelist. No one they run a private army that shoot civilians enjoys torture especially sexual torture and make a game out of running cars off the road in Iraq.

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The head of Blackwater and Christian holy-roller Erik Prince (son of a billionaire) has a sister Betsy (Elizabeth), who was chairman of the Michigan GOP. She is married to Dick DeVos, the son of Amway founder Richard DeVos, a member of the board of the conservative and Christian Dominionist Council for National Policy (CNP), an umbrella organization where he rubs shoulders with such leading right wingers as Jack Abramoff...
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Abramoff was a Zionist lobbyist busted paying for trips for congressmen to visit the Mandarin Islands [such as Delay]. I HAD a youtube video about that but it has been censored. There are some sketchy things there involving child prostitution. Foley any one? Yes Mark Foley was backed financially by Amway (Scamway).

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"Dick and Betsy DeVos donate huge sums of money to Republican candidates and causes. In the 2004 cycle, the couple ranked fifth among the highest political donors with $981,846 to Republicans. In fact, from 1990 through 2006, the couple donated $2,491,270 to Republicans with only $1,000 going to Democrats back in 1992."
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They have other retreats around the US, Caribbean, and Mexico. There are so many sex scandals I can't even write about them all.

3 videos on Blacwater






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Blackwater as some of you know who got my book got financial help from Amway (scamway) the ultra Christian group with a pyramid scheme to sell things and gain a % on what is sold and sold by your sponsored underlings and is now linked in with Quickstar. There DeVos family of amway (american way) has married into the the Prince famliy of Eric Prince who is the head of Blackwater. I know a thing or two about scamway Terry Taylor a diamond is my Uncle. He has quotes from "god" all over his house.

The US uses mercenaries to get around international law. Blackwater "contractors" act as modern day Privateers. It is like the US naming POWs terrorist, and in doing so they are not given the rights of POWs and they are tortured by "contractors" who are not subject to any military laws or international agreements. It is like Japan not being able to have a military according to Article 9 of their constitution, yet they have the 4th largest military in the world. They just dont call it a military. It is a defense force. Yeh right it is just a very big police force one that has submarines, gun boats, missiles, and helicopters... :roll:

People might want to look into Peter Island, which the DeVos family owns and sends its highest ranking con-men to visit. I know from my relatives that the scamway biz offen sends the indoctrinated to "retreats" like any good cult. They have some sketchy things going on as well which I have heard from drunk people (mostly holy-rollers I never listen to who claim to have SEEN angels and crap like that which makes them have zero credibility) at the parties. I never believe it until I saw some of the things Alex Jones uncovered. I know Aside form the big one at Peter Island that there are other locations in California, the Mandarin Islands and one in Mexico which is pretty big that I know of.

Blackwater Inc has to be exposed.
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The president's proposed Civilian Reserve Corps was not his idea alone. A privatized version of it was floated two years ago by Erik Prince, the secretive, mega-millionaire, conservative owner of Blackwater USA and a man who for years has served as the Pied Piper of a campaign to repackage mercenaries as legitimate forces. In early 2005, Prince - a major bankroller of the president and his allies - pitched the idea at a military conference of a "contractor brigade" to supplement the official military. "There's consternation in the [Pentagon] about increasing the permanent size of the Army," Prince declared. Officials "want to add 30,000 people, and they talked about costs of anywhere from $3.6 billion to $4 billion to do that. Well, by my math, that comes out to about $135,000 per soldier." He added: "We could do it certainly cheaper."


$135,000 per Christian soldier. That is a hefty price tag. No-bid contracts should be illegal period. They get no heat because the press will not cover it. These mercenary thugs are the ones murdering and torturing people in Iraq. They run the inner prision of the prisons. When the US wanted to avoid agreements it created about the treatment of POWs the Bush admin just changed the definition of its prisoners to terrorist so that they would not have the right of POWs. X-soldiers have also returned saying that many of the prisoners had not even committed any crimes. They soldiers were given orders after an attack to just go into a village and arrest ALL males over a certain age. These people are not given any trials, they are just thrown in prison where they are tortured by these contractors who see no judicial oversight and are outside of the law. This is a page right out of an Israeli playbook. In fact many of the contractors were led and trained in torture by seasoned Israelis. Note the stories of the Iraqi captives being wrapped in Israeli flags and forced to roll in broken glass.

Secret armies and secret prisions... whate are they planning? Why to they have FEMA camps in the US? Why were Blackwater thugs policing the street of New Orleans? Its not hard to guess what is coming when we have the State Depo's own policy papers written by the same psycho neocons behind everything else.

Jeremy Scale was on the Jon Stewart show talking about Blackwater. I suggest gettin gthat book.

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=7c0_1177290425



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Lawyer for BLackwater was on the 911 commission

Fred F. Fielding from the 911 Commission own Bush's lawyer and US Council has been hired by the Christian suprimicist mercenairy group to sue families for 10 million dollars. The families of the 4 dead contractors we all saw hanging from a bridge in Fallujah had to sue Blackwater to find out why they died. Blackwater didn't like anyone snooping into their cover up so they have hired 5 law firms to fight the families.

Blackwater Heavies Sue Families of Slain Employees for $10 Million in Brutal Attempt to Suppress Their Story

Daniel J. Callahan and Marc P. Miles
Alternet
Sunday June 10, 2007

The following article is by the lawyers representing the families of four American contractors who worked for Blackwater and were killed in Fallujah. After Blackwater refused to share information about why they were killed, the families were told they would have to sue Blackwater to find out. Now Blackwater is trying to sue them for $10 million to keep them quiet.

Raleigh, NC -- The families of four American security contractors who were burned, beaten, dragged through the streets of Fallujah and their decapitated bodies hung from a bridge over the Euphrates River on March 31, 2004, are reaching out to the American public to help protect themselves against the very company their loved ones were serving when killed, Blackwater Security Consulting. After Blackwater lost a series of appeals all the away to the U.S. Supreme Court, Blackwater has now changed its tactics and is suing the dead men's estates for $10 million to silence the families and keep them out of court.


Following these gruesome deaths which were broadcast on worldwide television, the surviving family members looked to Blackwater for answers as to how and why their loved ones died. Blackwater not only refused to give the grieving families any information, but also callously stated that they would need to sue Blackwater to get it. Left with no alternative, in January 2005, the families filed suit against Blackwater, which is owned by the wealthy and politically-connected Erik Prince.

Blackwater quickly adapted its battlefield tactics to the courtroom. It initially hired Fred F. Fielding, who is currently counsel to the President of the United States. It then hired Joseph E. Schmitz as its in-house counsel, who was formerly the Inspector General at the Pentagon. More recently, Blackwater employed Kenneth Starr, famed prosecutor in the Bill Clinton and Monica Lewinsky scandal, to oppose the families. To add additional muscle, Blackwater hired Cofer Black, who was the Director of the CIA Counter- Terrorist Center.

After filing its suit against the dead men's estates, Blackwater demanded that its claim and the families' existing lawsuit be handled in a private arbitration. By suing the families in arbitration, Blackwater has attempted to move the examination of their wrongful conduct outside of the eye of the public and away from a jury. This comes at the same time when Congress is investigating Blackwater.

Over 300 contractors have been killed in Iraq with very little inquiry into their deaths. The families claim that Blackwater is attempting to cover up its incompetence, its cutting of corners in favor of higher profits, and its over billing to the government. Due to lack of accountability and oversight, Blackwater's private army has been able to obtain huge profits from the government, utilizing contacts established through Erik Prince's relationships with high-ranking government officials such as Cofer Black and Joseph Schmitz.

In addition to assembling its litigation troops, Blackwater also stonewalled the families concerning any information about how the men were killed. Over the past two and a half years, Blackwater has not responded to a single question or produced a single document. When the families' attorneys, Callahan & Blaine, obtained a Court Order to take the deposition of a former Blackwater employee with critical information about the incident, Blackwater quickly re-hired him and sent him out of the country. When the witness returned to the United States more than a year later, the families obtained another Court Order for his deposition. Blackwater again prevented them from taking his deposition by seeking the assistance of the U.S. Attorney's Office to block the deposition under the guise that he possibly possessed national secrets. Following an investigation, the U.S. Army reported that the witness had no secret information and that it had no objection to the deposition.

Blackwater has now lifted this atrocity to a whole new level by going on the offensive and suing the families for $10 million. The families now find themselves looking down the barrel of a gun as Blackwater, armed with a war chest and politically-connected attorneys, is aggressively litigating against them. Blackwater has also threatened to hold the administrator of the estates personally liable to scare him into abandoning his position, and has threatened the families' attorneys as well.

The families are simply without the financial wherewithal to defend against Blackwater. By filing suit, Blackwater is trying to wipe out the families' ability to discover the truth about Blackwater's involvement in the deaths of these four Americans and to silence them from any public comment. In February, the families testified before Congress.

However, Blackwater's lawsuit now seeks to gag the family members from even speaking about the incident or about Blackwater's involvement in the deaths. This is a direct attack to their free speech rights under the First Amendment.

"I initially took this case because it was the right thing to do in helping the families find closure by discovering the events surrounding their loved ones deaths, " said Daniel J. Callahan, attorney for the families. "I have found the evidence concerning Blackwater's involvement in the deaths to be overwhelming and appalling. Even more disturbing though is the callous nature in which Blackwater has not only concealed the truth, but also outright sued to force the families to stop pursuing the case and to silence them." Blackwater has spent millions of dollars and hired at least five different law firms to fight the families, rather than meeting and addressing what should be Blackwater's top priority -- the safety and well being of the mothers, wives, and children left behind. Blackwater has said that it will not pay one red cent to assist or console the surviving families, but instead has counter sued for $10 million.

Without help, Blackwater will succeed in avoiding scrutiny for its conduct, escaping accountability for its actions, and silencing the families of the four Americans killed in Fallujah. A defense fund has been established by which the public is able to donate money to assist the families with litigation costs and expenses.

Donations can be sent to the estates' trust account, payable to "C&B ITF Blackwater Victims Defense Fund," c/o Callahan & Blaine, 3 Hutton Centre Drive, Ninth Floor, Santa Ana, California 92707. Donations may also be made securely online through PayPal by going to blackwatervictims.com. All donations will be kept confidential and anonymous.

I already went over this blackwater mess here You may want to read this as wellabout the Christian holy rollers and the flight schools.

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Secret history on Jerry Falwell
The Secret History of Jerry Falwell

At the same time the Rev. Jerry Falwell was accusing pagans, abortionists, feminists, gays, lesbians, the ACLU and People For the American Way of sharing responsibility for the 9/11 attack the televangelist owed over one million dollars in unpaid loans to the owner of the terror flight school in Florida which trained Mohamed Atta and Marwan Al-Shehhi, the MadCowMorningNews has learned.

You know given the exposure that I have to the Atta myth and how it was actually the Mossad and how the Christian Zionist and Israel tie together both in investments and in mercenairy groups the revolation is startling. Sharon once got Jerry his own personal Jet. Now whay is this super Zionist who is worth millions borrowing so much money from the flight school where the Israeli Mossad was setting up its patsies? hmmm.

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And dont't anyone forget about what happened in Fallujah

The four "contracters" hanged form a bridge in Falluja that the riech-wing media called civilian contractors were actually Blackwater mercenaries.

Heavily armed paramilitary mercenaries from the Blackwater private security firm, infamous for their work in Iraq, are openly patrolling the streets of New Orleans.

Blackwater mercenaries are some of the most feared professional killers in the world and they are accustomed to operating without worry of legal consequences.

The company rose to international prominence after 4 of its men were killed in Fallujah and two of their charred bodies were hung from a bridge in March 2004. Those killings sparked the massive US retaliation against the civilian population of Fallujah that resulted in scores of deaths and tens of thousands of refugees.

http://antiwar.com/orig/scahill.php?articleid=7217


As stated above, Blackwater is now sueing the families who are investigating why these blackwater contractors were killed what were they doing? This court case could be in the top three most imnportant trials we have. Everyone knows that in response to this the US dropped chemical weapons like MK77 on Fallujah murdering an un-told number of civilians. I went over that attack and the media cover up in my book Welcome to the USSA.

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Thanks, Ry. I really enjoyed this

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I believe Tim has a great video of a BW hired murdered getting his just payment when he is cuaght by freedom fighters.

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Man, this is the type of stuff you have to read again and again to truly grasp the whole story..

Very informative..

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Yes this first post was about three of my earlier posts all put together. It takes a couple of readings. I also ordered that book on blackwater. After I read that I may have more information that I can link with other things I know. Christian Zionist are part of a financial empire that rides the coat tales of war.

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FANTASTIC

I'd have it on my wall - lol but the vids wudnt play


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look at all the yellow on my post. It took a while to dig all that up. ;)

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This is one of the most informative - data packed topics I've ever seen.
This is the true spirit of anti-neocons, to back oneself up with evidence.

I will see at some stage what I can find out about British firms.
;] good luck and well done to all of you.


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