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Not exactly. Relatives and colleagues of some of the passengers who made the phone calls say that these people bought their tickets on the day of the flight or switched flights at the last moment.



Correction: "Look at how the MSM played up on the Todd Beamer story and the tapes to make it sound like their were ARAB hijackers."

That was the whole purpose of the Israelis' plan in hijacking the planes; that was why they had spent months setting up the deception, getting the Israeli Mossad acting the part of Arab hijackers in Florida; why the group of hijackers made a ruckus in the parking lot of the airport - so that a member of the public would remember seeing them - to carry out the hijacking themselves and fool the public into thinking it was the Arabs.

But even with the best-laid plans things go wrong and the Israelis' plan is no exception. The hijacking of FL93 is where things fouled up. Passengers (and the extra ballast) that weren't meant to catch FL93 did catch the plane; there was a delay in the plane taking off -- other snafus that happened with the flight -- culminating in the terrible (for the Israelis) slip-up of phone calls being made by passengers that revealed the presence of guns and gas on the plane (pointing to an 'inside' job: undercover operatives working at the airport), and also the actual events on the plane being reported or transmitted via phone, such as the attack on the cockpit, the holing of the plane after one of the doors had been opened, the six-minute interval between the point when the passengers stopped talking (suddenly) and the plane crashed.

As I said, many of the airport workers working at the airports remember seeing the hijackers and they remember checking their luggage; so we know the hijackers went onto the plane, as all the other passengers are accounted for and none of them can be seriously considered as suspects in the hijackings. Therefore it is undeniable that there were actual hijackers on board.

so what, that's plenty of time. And I doubt it's true. I think the entire thing is rigged including the relatives.

israelis jumping off of planes is ridiculous. and the MSM did roll with the lets role junk and the so called phone calls from the flights, you're eating it up.



someone said "some workers" said that. It is not undeniable given that the said hijackers, turned up ALIVE.

they didn't fuck up on flight 93 (read the Grove article) the whole story was planned, the the phone calls were made to make it look like a hijacking rather than remote control. And it was a tale of American Heroism something the scared public ate up like candy.

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I think you going into fantasy land territory here (and breaking Occam's Razor). They rigged the relatives? They had plenty of time?

Pray, tell me, how did they fake the phone calls and how did they rig the relatives? Do you think people will shut up about the fact that their loved ones died and the phone calls they made were faked all for money? Would you do that if your family member was in the same situation?



Why?



Who knows what beamer said? The phone call wasn't recorded - we just have the verizon person's recall of his words - maybe he said, "let's roll!" - it's not the first time or last time somebody said such a thing. I don't think Tod beamer was thinking of what would sound corny or less corny when he spoke to the receptionist. He was thinking about his survival ...

So on the basis of the corniness of "Let's roll!" you say the phone calls from 18 passengers were faked and the relatives were bought?



Yeah, but those people didn't catch the plane; Israeli commandos did. The people who turned up alive obviously had their identities stolen - by the Israelis.


No, I don't go by someone's intuition that a passenger's words sound corny or whatever and therefore the whole thing must be fake; I go by evidence and the evidence is that it is not possible to fake the phone calls of that many people and not be caught out; also the Israelis did not have time to research the last-minute plane-catchers and fake their voices and personalities and find out nicknames and so on ...

I also go by logic, and logic tells me that if the Israelis somehow managed to do the impossible and fake all those people, they would not have included details such as the gun shootings and the gas canisters - these details point away from the Arabs and toward other people - people who had inside help at the airports.

That's what I go by: evidence and logic and I don't scope the realms of fantasy just because my 'intuition' tells me "Let's roll!" sounds corny.

god damn dude (you are still putting the cart before the horse), there were no phone calls to fake. It was a fucking recording that they had before 911. (if a call had made comverse an Israeli company would have snatched it, as they control all the phone data) They didn't have to fake calls for all the people on the plane only a few calls which they invented and said were from the plane. Both the caller and reciver are fake they are not the people on the plane, who are dead and can not say anything otherwise.

it is not fantasy land. The Mossad and CIA rutinely have faked tape, notably the Bin Laden tapes.

Also the let's roll story doesn't fit with the evidence. Flight 93 was shot down, the debris is tossed over a mile wide area, and witnesses saw an explosion in the air. Now there are kooks out there who say people were tossing plane parts out of a plane to make it look like that and others have just said the plane blew up over a mile and other just deny the evidence. People were not jumping out of planes and they were not dumping plane parts out of a plane to frame 93. This kind of ridiculous BS is the disinfo to discredit Israeli involvement.

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Debus,

The kind of phone manipulation you decry is easily done. I know because I once worked for a company that did it. The technology is over 25 years old.

It's an incredibly simple matter of getting the manifest the day before, then recording calls made by or to whomever you choose, from the manifest, to mimic. Subsequent voice modulation tapes are effectively a no-brainer. They're about as difficult to make as it is for you to tie your shoes. Any ten-year-old could manage it.

-good point

good point for the record my problems with Alex Jones are not so much aout 911 and the way he ignore the elephant in the room so much as that he denys global warming and believes in secret hand signals for the devil and kooky stuff like that. He is also pro-life and a bit of a christian holy roller. He once said people in Japan eat babies... SO yehhh

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I can't speak for others, but my issue with the phone calls rests with their technical near-impossibility. Transmission between a handheld receiver in an aluminium tube travelling at 400 knots and a ground station when the handheld is well outside the signal propagation envelope of the ground station isn't going to happen with any sort of reliability, much less the sort of continuity needed to sustain a conversation.

I ask you: Why would airlines be installing mini cell stations on their aircraft so that passengers could use their cell phones in flight if such calls were possible in 2001?

http://www.boeing.com/news/releases/200 ... 1017j.html

I also have a serious issue with the entire regime of ridiculous and de-humanizing "security screening" proceedures at airports, based on the questionable word of one person, namely Barbara Olson, who is the ONLY alleged victim to have said anything about box cutters! It is claimed that she called collect from a seat-back phone when one needs to swipe a credit card in order for the phone to be unlocked before you can even make the call! Somebody's not telling the truth here.