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Since I am qualified to be a history teacher and obviously the American school system doesn't teach you any history East of Italy, I find that I may have to try and make a crash course of Russia and what happened.

The myth that Russia collapsed because of the arms race with Reagan is just that a total myth and oversimplification. What is more important is understanding the transfer and consolidation of wealth into the hands of the Oligarchs.

Who are the Oligarchs? See this for a profile run down, of where they were and where thay are now. from the BBC.

There are 7 oligarchs. These seven Oligarchs are all criminals. It is not prejudice to mention that they are Jewish as they have connections to Zionism and Israel it is relevant.


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In the 1990s a handful of Russian businessmen came to prominence as the Kremlin's financiers and media moguls.Their power peaked in an infamous loans-for shares deal which saw privatised assets handed out at knock-down prices in exchange for political support for then-President Boris Yeltsin.

Under Vladimir Putin their fortunes have varied - to say the least.

Mikhail Khodorkovsky --> S IIMA -->
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Age: 40
Business: Chief executive of Yukos, Russia's biggest oil company since its merger with rival Sibneft.
Worth: About $8bn, making him possibly Russia's richest man.
Pedigree: Left the Soviet Communist youth league to set up a banking business at the end of the Soviet era. Moved into oil and gas in 1995.
Hobbies: Funding liberal Russian opposition parties.
Where is he now?: Prison, Russia.


Roman Abramovich --> S IIMA -->
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Age:37
Business: Industrialist, oil magnate, football boss, governor of Chukotka region in Russia's far northeast.
Worth: Unknown, estimated to be $6bn-7bn.
Pedigree : College drop-out who got rich in oil trading in the early 1990s, dabbling also in airlines and aluminium.
Hobbies: Chelsea FC.
Where is he now?: West London.

Boris Berezovsky --> S IIMA -->
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Age: 57
Business: Media magnate, freelance anti-Putin dissident.
Worth: About $3bn.
Pedigree: Former Young Communist turned auto-industry magnate. Won influence in the 1990s by taking control of newspapers and television stations which were later confiscated by the Kremlin. Briefly deputy secretary of the Russian Security Council.
Hobbies: Avoiding extradition to Russia on fraud charges, spreading conspiracy theories.
Where is he now?: A refugee in London.

Vladimir Gusinsky --> S IIMA -->
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Age: 51
Business: Media magnate (retired).
Worth: Unknown.
Pedigree: Flamboyant theatre director who established banking business in the dying days of the USSR. Later financed newspapers and Russia's first independent television station which was eventually confiscated for opposing pro-Putin forces.
Hobbies: Keeping a low profile, avoiding extradition to Moscow on fraud charges.
Where is he now?: In exile in Greece, Spain or Israel.

Vladimir Potanin --> S IIMA -->
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Age: 42
Business: Metals magnate with major shareholding in Norilsk Nickel, the world's biggest nickel producer.
Worth: About $1bn.
Pedigree: Former Soviet trade official turned financier in the early 1990s. Dabbled in media and other industries including oil and telecoms before settling on metals.
Hobbies: Arts philanthropy, steering clear of politics.
Where is he now?: Plush dacha, Moscow.

Mikhail Fridman --> S IIMA -->
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Age: 39
Business: Oil magnate and financier. Financial services and retail outlets. His Alfa Bank controls TNK, a leading oil company which recently merged with BP in the largest ever foreign investment in Russia.
Worth: Unknown.
Pedigree: Engineer turned multi-purpose entrepreneur making money in oil trades and various import-export schemes.
Hobbies: PR, wooing foreign investors.
Where is he now?: Plush office, Moscow.

Oleg Deripaska --> S IIMA -->
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Age: 35
Business: Aluminium. His company Base Element controls more than 70 per cent of Russia's aluminium capacity. He also makes cars, has a stake in Aeroflot and dabbles in timber, textiles and insurance.
Worth: $1.5bn.
Pedigree: An engineer by training, he was a late arrival to the premier league of oligarchy. But he did his time along with erstwhile partner Abramovich in the vicious "aluminium wars" for control of lucrative metal assets in Siberia in the 1990s.
Hobbies:Buying moribund Soviet industrial giants.
Where is he now?: Moscow, Russia's industrial heartlands



It a nut shell here is what went down. Back when the Borris Yeltsin was in charge of Russia, who was an absolute drunk, (I remember once Yeltsin was so drunk while eating dinner with the Clintons the Bill Clinton had to talk over him and rush to end the discussion because Yeltsin was acting like a total fool.) Under the crook Yelson's rein in office, a Harvard professor named Jeffery Sachs and an economist named Yegor Gaidar (the PM of Russia in 1992) got together some other economists and hatched a plan of how best to take advantage of the coming Russian implosion. Russia was about to burst with hyper inflation. (easy to rig when you run the central bank) Russia had its currency the Ruble, diminished to nearly nothing.

As the joke used to go, "hey Olath, what's cheaper, to buy toilet paper or just wipe your ass with rubles?." the joke is not funny. People had their life savings wiped out. It didn't matter how much they had saved because it would be like if all your dollars turned to pennies. Some people could not afford clothes for the coming horrible Russian winters. People could not eat and some people died. Prices numerically rose of course because the ruble was falling but value-wise they were actually cheaper because of the desperation. But the prices didn't rise in dollars. A few people made fortunes by correctly predicting (actually by having insider knowledge) the wild price gyrations. They knew what to buy up and when to do it. More often it was the case that as formerly run state industries were "privatizing" instead of being auctioned off to the highest bidder or to the entrepreneurs who could utilize the mines/oil/resource the best, the bureaucrats in charge of the transition were bribed into selling them off at a fraction of their worth (normally only 5 to 10% of their real value) to the Oligarchs who then resold them to third parties for mountains of cash in solid currencies. A lot of this was commandeered by the Mossad agent Marc Rich, the Israeli Oligarch then used their Jewish status to flee Russia in order to avoid being prosecuted by Russian courts.

The Zionists, the same that manipulated the banks, knew ahead of time what the plans of the 'reformers' were. But it went well beyond that. They lied, murdered and pulled every trick in the book to get their wealth. They defaulted on valuators. They took money for investments and never invested it, and just pocketed the money. They (Boris) ran the media in Russia and fought with one another. When money becomes worthless certain things have intrinsic value like land and assets. They bought these things up cheaply with dollars from people who risked either selling for less than it was worth in dollars or possibly by the next day losing everything if it remained in rubles.


Number 1 Mikhail Khodorkovsky of Yukos oil is now in jail (serving 8 year sentence) and while he was in prison he claimed that had his face slashed open by a knife but according to the prison he was just punched in the nose and got a scratch.

There is a film you can probably find it called a Dimes worth of difference: beyond the lesser of two evils. Uri Avnery (a non-zionist Jews) wrote an fairly good article on the film in counterpunch.

"his is a TV series about Russia. But it could have been about Israel. Or about the United States. It is entitled "The Oligarchs" and is now being screened on Israeli television.

Some of its episodes are simply unbelievable--or would have been, if they had not come straight from the horses' mouths: the heroes of the story, who gleefully boast about their despicable exploits. The series was produced by Israeli immigrants from Russia.

The "oligarchs" are a tiny group of entrepreneurs who exploited the disintegration of the Soviet system to loot the treasures of the state and to amass plunder amounting to hundreds of billions of dollars. In order to safeguard the perpetuation of their business, they took control of the state. Six out of the seven are Jews.

In popular parlance they are called "oligarchs"--from the Greek word meaning "rule of the few".

In the first years of post-Soviet Russian capitalism they were the bold and nimble ones who knew how to exploit the economic anarchy in order to acquire enormous possessions for a hundredth or a thousandth of their value: oil, natural gas, nickel and other minerals. They used every possible trick, including cheating, bribery and murder. Every one of them had a small private army. In the course of the series they are proud to tell in great detail how they did it.

But the most intriguing part of the series recounts the way they took control of the political apparatus. After a period of fighting each other, they decided that it would be more profitable for them to cooperate in order to take over the state.

At the time, President Boris Yeltsin was in a steep decline. On the eve of the new elections for the presidency, his rating in public opinion polls stood at 4%. He was an alcoholic with a severe heart disease, working about two hours a day. The state was, in practice, ruled by his bodyguard and his daughter; corruption was the order of the day.

The oligarchs decided to take power through him. They had almost unlimited funds, control of all TV channels and most of the other media. They put all these at the disposal of Yeltsin's reelection campaign, denying his opponents even one minute of TV time and pouring huge sums of money into the effort. (The series omits an interesting detail: they secretly brought over the most outstanding American election experts and copywriters, who applied methods previously unknown in Russia.)

The campaign bore fruit: Yeltsin was indeed reelected. On the very same day he had another heart attack and spent the rest of his term in hospital. In practice, the oligarchs ruled Russia. One of them, Boris Berezovsky, appointed himself Prime Minister. There was a minor scandal when it became known that he (like most of the oligarchs) had acquired Israeli citizenship, but he gave up his Israeli passport and everything was in order again.

By the way, Berezovsky boasts that he caused the war in Chechnya, in which tens of thousands have been killed and a whole country devastated. He was interested in the mineral resources and a prospective pipeline there. In order to achieve this he put an end to the peace agreement that gave the country some kind of independence. The oligarchs dismissed and destroyed Alexander Lebed, the popular general who engineered the agreement, and the war has been going on since then.

In the end, there was a reaction: Vladimir Putin, the taciturn and tough ex-KGB operative, assumed power, took control of the media, put one of the oligarchs (Mikhail Khodorkovsky) in prison, caused the others to flee (Berezovsky is in England, Vladimir Gusinsky is in Israel, another, Mikhail Chernoy, is assumed to be hiding here.)

Since all the exploits of the oligarchs occurred in public, there is a danger that the affair might cause an increase in anti-Semitism in Russia. Indeed, the anti-Semites argue that these doings confirm the "Protocols of the Elders of Zion", a document fabricated by the Russian secret police a century ago, purporting to reveal a Jewish conspiracy to control the world.

Moving from Russia to America--the same thing happened, of course, in the US, but more than a hundred years ago. At the time, the great "robber barons", Morgan, Rockefeller at al., all of them good Christians, used very similar methods to acquire capital and power on a massive scale. Today, it works in far more refined ways.

In the present election campaign, the candidates collect hundreds of millions of dollars. George W. Bush and John Kerry both brag about their talent for raising enormous sums of money. From whom? From pensioners? From the mythical "old lady in tennis shoes"? Of course not, but from the cabals of billionaires, the giant corporations and powerful lobbies (arms dealers, Jewish organiztions, doctors, lawyers and such). Many of them give money to both candidates--just to be on the safe side.

All of these expect, of course, to receive a generous bonus when their candidate is elected. "There is no such thing as a free lunch", as the right-wing economist Milton Friedman wrote. As in Russia, every dollar (or ruble) invested wisely in an election will yield a ten- or hundred-fold return.

The problem is rooted in the fact that presidential candidates (and all other candidates for political office) need ever increasing amounts of money. Elections are mainly fought out on TV and cost huge sums. It is not a coincidence that all the present candidates in the US are multi-millionaires. The Bush family has amassed a fortune from the oil business (helped by its political connections, of course.) Kerry is married to one of the richest women in America, who was once the wife of the ketchup king, Henry John Heinz. Dick Cheney was the chief of a huge corporation that has garnered contracts worth billions in Iraq. John Edwards, candidate for Vice President, has made a fortune as a trial lawyer.

From time to time there is talk in America about reforming election finances, but nothing worthwhile ever comes of it. None of the oligarchs has any interest in changing a system that enables them to buy the government of the United States.

In Israel, too, talk about "Money and Power" is now in vogue. Ariel Sharon and one of his two sons have been suspected of accepting bribes from a real estate magnate. An indictment was blocked by the new Attorney General who happened to be appointed by the Sharon government at the height of the affair. Another investigation into Sharon and his sons is still pending. It concerns millions of dollars that reached his election coffers by roundabout routes, crossing three continents.

Shimon Peres' connections with multi-millionaires are well-known, as are the huge sums poured out by American Jewish multi-millionaires for extreme right-wing causes in Israel. One of the Russian oligarchs is the part-owner of the second biggest Israeli newspaper.

A political scandal concerning the Israeli Minister for Infrastructure has mushroomed into an affair involving giant multi-national corporations competing for contracts for supplying natural gas to the Israeli Electricity Company, an affair of billions in which underworld figures, politicians and private investigators play their parts. This disclosure has made it clear to Israelis that here, too, politicians of the highest rank have long ago been acting as mercenaries for powerful financial interests.

These facts must alarm everybody who cares about democracy--in Israel, Russia, the United States and elsewhere. Oligarchy and democracy are incompatible. As a Russian commentator in the TV series said about the new Russian democracy: "They have turned a virgin into a whore."

Alexander Litvinenko

The Alexander Litvinenko affair, (which I am going to move to the Zionist scandals section, is becoming ever so interesting. Given that traces of polonium 210 were found at Berezovsky's residence and Britain and Russia were on the verge of negotiating a new extradition treaty it seems likeLitvinenko had plans to blackmail the oligarches.

We have double motive, means, and physical evidence of a very rare substance found in the home of the Oligarch who tried to frame Putin.

Yegor Gaidar is now having his daughter claim that he too was a victim of radiation poisoning. Interesting all these Zionists and the radio active meterial. We know which country conducted tests of radiation poisoning on unsuspecting children, Israel (with the pay check coming from America). 6,000 of the Sephardi children died shortly and thousands more died slowly afterward and some of people are still dying of living with handicaps. It was deliberate and basically an entire generation of Saphadic Jews were purposely poisoned under the direction of the Israeli Labor Party founders while Zionists Jews were left alone. They were creating the Israel that they wanted, the one good for the American MIC.

Once again all roads lead to Israel.
I will be getting to the bottom of this.

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The best way to describe communism is that it is an economic system where the entire economy is placed into receivership. Should the receiver be incapable of managing a high enough yield to sustain a nation, the system collapses into a military-based tribal existence, not unlike the peoples of our religious books.


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It really had nothing to do with "communism." As Mikhail Gorbachev put it Russia was state capitalism. Russia was controlled by an oligarchy which used the government as a medium to further cosolidate wealth and create massive monopolies especially over the media and mineral wealth.

Russia had three major wars in a row, the WWI, the Red and White War and WWII. The revolution had large support from the so called communist who cared about that ideology about as much as America cares about spreading democray in Iraq. It was all about toppling the Czar so that the international bankers could put a central bank in the last state in Europe that they didn't control. Once in charge they turned on the workers and pesants and thre Russia into rapid industrialization mainly geared around war.

The French Banks were bankrolling Russia's MIC and the American Banks mostly Morgan, were backing the French. This was the set up for the first World War, the dream to tare Europe apart and hook it into massive debt. Germany served its purpose in weakening Russia enough for thr revolution and the Eastern front was lost. However once the bankers were in control of Russia, Germany was no longer needed. The cabal had recently created the Federal Reserve in the US as well and the US was brought into the war to finish the Germans off. Because of Russia's war the power had been concentrated into the military and they lived under a virtual police state, a secret police state. Workers were thrown into a choice of serve or starve. No buddy gave a damn about the Serbs killing an Austro-Hungarian Franz Ferdinand. That is not what all those people were dying for. And remeber Russia was on the side of the Serbs (the Black Hand Sabbat) the terrorists as was America.

Meanwhile the British were already fighting over Palestine, despite invading Gaza 4 times.

"After occupying El Arish in Sinai in December 1916, the ANZAC mounted division led British forces up to the Palestine border. With his forces needed elsewhere, General Archibald Murray, Commander in Chief of the British Forces in the Middle East, postponed making further advances.

General Friedrich Kressenstein, commander of the Turkish Expeditionary Force, occupied the coastal fortress of Gaza, blocking the main route into Palestine. General Murray was determined to take Gaza and sent General Dobell, commander of the Eastern Forces, in March 1917. Kressenstein had 18,000 men but was outnumbered 2 to 1 by Dobell's forces.

General Dobell massed the main bulk of his men 8km from Gaza. Undetected in a dense sea fog, Dobell's cavalry was able to cut off the town's rear on the 26th March. The main infantry attack that followed was less successful. A Turkish counterattack and water shortages forced Dobell to order his men to retreat. General Dobell lost 4,000 men against about 2,400 Turkish and German casualties. Dobell estimated that the Turks lost three times that number and at the time the battle was reported as a British victory.

In June 1917, General Edmund Allenby was transferred from the command of the Third Army in France to become commander of the British Forces in Palestine. Lieutenant-General Harry Chauvel was given command of the Desert Mounted Troops and the infantry divisions were allotted to Lieutenant-General Philip Chetwode (XX Corps) and Major General Edward Bulfin (XXI Corps).

The British plan was for a preliminary operation against Beersheba to enable them to take the higher ground. Once established at Beersheba the forces would be deployed to roll-up the Turkish flank. Chetwode and XX Corps and the Desert Mounted Corps formed the main striking force, whereas Bulfin and XXI Corps would make the attack on Gaza itself.

On the night of 30th October, over 40,000 Australian and British troops moved into position for the attack on Beersheba. It was hoped that the diversionary attack would encourage the Turks to reinforce their right at expense of their left and make it easier for the XX Corps. Gaza was also bombarded by French and British ships offshore.

The first phase of the assault on Beersheba began early on 31st October. By late afternoon the Allied forces had driven the Turks back into Gaza. At 4.30 pm Brigadier Grant led two cavalry regiments against the eastern defences of the town. Although faced with Turkish machine-guns, the cavalry managed to gallop into Beersheba. The Turks were captured before their plans to destroy the wells and evacuate the town could take place.

The main attack against the Turkish left took place on 6th November. Although the Turkish trenches ran for eight miles all Allied objectives were taken by mid-afternoon. That evening the Turks began to retreat. When XXI arrived on the morning of 7th November, Gaza had been abandoned.

General Allenby's victory at Gaza had unlocked the defences of the Turks. In the weeks that followed, the Turks retreated 75 miles and on 9th December the allied forces took Jerusalem. Although a clear victory, between October and December, 1917, the British and Empire forces lost 19,702 men during the campaign in the Middle East "

Also note it was Septemeber 11th 1922 that the Brists particianed Palestine. And we know it was during these raids in 1917 that the Balfour declaration was made by the British Foreign Secretary Arthur James Balfour to Lord Rothschild (Walter Rothschild, 2nd Baron Rothschild) of the Infamous Banking family.

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...a leader of the British Jewish community, for transmission to the Zionist Federation, a private Zionist organization, on the partitioning of the Ottoman Empire in the aftermath of the World War I. The letter stated the position, agreed at a British Cabinet meeting on October 31, 1917, that the British government supported Zionist plans for a Jewish "national home" in Palestine, with the condition that nothing should be done which might prejudice the rights of existing communities there. The document is kept at the British Library.
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Come on put it together people. We know who is pulling the strings.

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November 2nd, 1917.

Dear Lord Rothschild,

I have much pleasure in conveying to you, on behalf of His Majesty's Government, the following declaration of sympathy with Jewish Zionist aspirations which has been submitted to, and approved by, the Cabinet:

"His Majesty's Government view with favour the establishment in Palestine of a national home for the Jewish people, and will use their best endeavours to facilitate the achievement of this object, it being clearly understood that nothing shall be done which may prejudice the civil and religious rights of existing non-Jewish communities in Palestine, or the rights and political status enjoyed by Jews in any other country".

I should be grateful if you would bring this declaration to the knowledge of the Zionist Federation.

Yours sincerely
Arthur James Balfour


This was long Before WWII or any Holocaust...

Remember also it was Nathon Meyers Rothchild who personally bought the bulk of the land in Palestine to create the "Jewish" State after WWII.

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Someone asked me about the connection between Israel and Oil.

The Secret Relationship Between Israel and Oil: What the US Media Hides
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Then in 1973, the Arab members of the Organization of Petroleum Exporting Countries (OPEC) tightened their spigots, and the world panicked. The result: high prices, long lines and frequent shortages at gas stations across the U.S. and Europe."
There was exactly no mention of the context of why OPEC "tightened their spigots" in 1973. No mention at all.

Are you ready for the Israeli connection to this crisis that is almost uniformly covered up by the pro-Israel US media?

Here it is: In 1973, Egypt went to war against Israel in order to win back the Sinai Peninsula, which Israel had stolen six years earlier in Israel's infamous pre-emptive "Six Day War" in 1967 against her neighboring countries.

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Wendy Campbell is the first person I found to have obtained FOX's Cameron special on the Israeli spy ring. I think she may have been the person who purchased it from the production company, if I remember correctly. It has been a couple of years. She was very paranoid when I asked her about it back then. I wasn't being critical at all and she became very defensive, very quickly. I imagine she was getting alot of hate mail for it. Anyways, we became cool after awhile. She is A ok in my book. That article was good. Thanks.

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Ry:

Wow. Interesting. I never knew you were a qualified history teacher, I might ask my school's top history teacher a few things...

Another thing.. I have tried to find out, but it is not easy for me: Was Stalin a Zionist? Or was he the only anti-zionist ruler of Russia? If he was it would explain the amont of jews he apparently killed, and why he is labelled as evil as Hitler. And what I've gathered from a few dodgy sites was that he was the only ruler who chased the communist dream.

What can you tell me.


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Good stuff maynerd.

Just one question, what data do you have or know about that proves that "the protocols" (a document which correctly predicted many future occurences) were "Fabricated by the russian police".??

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british_freedom_fighter, I can't answer your question about Stalin, I leave that to Ry, but I thought you might be interested in this Op-Ed, which I clipped in June 2000.
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Commentary; A Serious Case of Mistaken Identity; The U.S. is not the 'indispensable nation,' as a growing WWII mythology would suggest.; [Home Edition]
BENJAMIN SCHWARZ,at the time Literary Editor for The Atlantic MonthlyLos Angeles Times. Los Angeles, Calif.: Jun 22, 2000. pg. 11

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Each June, Americans rightfully honor the bravery and sacrifice of the men who invaded Normandy in 1944. Recently, however, this celebration has too often lapsed into a solipsistic and deeply flawed revision of the U.S. role in World War II, which leads to equally self-congratulatory but far more dangerous conclusions about America's purpose in the world today. If Americans are to get a more balanced view of their history and their global role, we should remember another June anniversary: today, the 59th anniversary of Germany's invasion of Russia.

A national mythology has emerged that in 1941 the United States, appalled by the horrific policies of the Nazis, deliberately embarked on a crusade to rid the world of Hitler and to stop the Holocaust. D-Day was, according to this version of events, the decisive point in the "Good War," when American troops, piously aware of the noble cause for which they fought, began the military operations that defeated Nazi Germany. Having beat Hitler and made possible a better world, the United States remains to this day what Secretary of State Madeleine Albright declares "the indispensable nation."

Some reminders are in order.

First, of course, such a view slights the anti-Japanese dimension of the U.S. war, which was the real reason the United States had gone to war in the first place. Nazi Germany declared war on the United States in accord with its treaty with Japan; only then did the U.S. declare that Germany was its enemy too. For most Americans, the purpose of the war remained to exact revenge on the Japanese.

Second, stopping the mass murder of the Jews didn't figure in any way in either American war aims or conduct. As for American soldiers and sailors, they fought the war, as historian and critic Paul Fussell declares, "in an ideological vacuum." The war was "about your military unit and your loyalty to it." Plainly put, they fought the war to end it so that they could go home, a point of view entirely reasonable and even courageous, but hardly high-minded.

As far as the U.S. contribution to defeating the Nazis goes, even though Time magazine anointed Gen. Dwight D. Eisenhower as "The Man Who Defeated Hitler," if any one man deserves that label, it's Soviet Army Marshal G.K. Zhukov, or possibly Josef Stalin. The main scene of the Nazis' defeat wasn't Normandy or anywhere else Americans fought, but rather the Eastern Front, where the conflict was the most terrible war fought in history. It claimed 50 million Soviet civilian deaths and 29 million Soviet military casualties. But more to the point, Americans should recall that about 88% of all German casualties fell in the war with Russia.

Until the Normandy invasion--from June 1941 to June 1944--almost the whole of the Nazi war machine was concentrated in the East; and even two months after D-Day, well over half the German army was still fighting the Soviets. Military historians date the war's turning point two years before D-Day when, at Stalingrad, the Soviets eradicated 50 divisions from the Axis order of battle, or nearly one year before when, at the Battle of Kursk, the Red Army smashed the Wehrmacht's strategic tank force, breaking the Nazis' capacity for large-scale attack. And it was the Red Army that liberated Auschwitz and bore down on Hitler's bunker.

The moral narcissism that characterizes recent American discussion of our role in World War II breeds within too many of our statesmen a smug and reckless pride. After all, the thinking goes, if history has shown the United States to be so virtuous, then any that oppose us must be evil.

Today, Americans need not honor the Russian dead as we do our own, but we should give credit where credit is due, and we must not make exaggerated claims for ourselves. In contemplating how our WWII role influences our conduct in the contemporary world, Americans should remember that self-righteousness is bad enough, but when it springs largely from a self-serving mythology, it is insufferable.



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Which should explain why Russia had all the Auschwitz records. There were brought forward from their archives in 1989 after the Cold War ended. Previously, the story was that the Nazis burned them.

The official Auschwitz museum now has the records, and on their site they say that there were approximately 74,000 or 79,000 death records, which you can search online. I went through them one day. They are filled with records that show people dying of old age (92 years old, etc) and illness.

In the early 1990s, Yehuda Bauer, the highly respected israeli Yod Vashem Holocaust Museum director and historian revised the 4,000,000 Auschwitz dead figure to 1,500,000. It includes Christians, Roma, Gorani, Muslims and Jews. This changes the 6,000,000 total to 3,500,000. You can read about this on the Auschwitz Museum site.


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