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 Post subject: Re: Flight 93 oddities
 Post Posted: Tue Apr 03, 2012 10:56 pm 
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No it wasn't a drill they were murdering people on the plane. There was a drill however running simultaneously to the attack which confused air defenses. The hijackers were more like McVeigh, they wanted to commit terrorism. But in each hijackers cell were Mossad, like the fake Atta for example. They were playing the role of Straussmeir. If you don't know he was the guy on load from the CIA who was with McVeigh in the Ryder Truck and who was the truck bomb maker. The real damage just like OKC was done by bomb already in the building. Rather than outsourcing that to sloppies as the PR908 did in OKC since it went so badly they hired professionals, Mossad who were all working under fake passports and IDs thus plausible deniability.

Same as JFK if it went sour all the blame would have been dumped on the mob team they were the only ones firing without silencers. So if shit hit the fan they would get the full blame and couldn't nark out anyone else as the right hand doesn't know what the left is doing.

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 Post subject: Re: Flight 93 oddities
 Post Posted: Wed Apr 04, 2012 12:19 am 
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Ry wrote:
No it wasn't a drill they were murdering people on the plane.


Is it not possible that the calls that provided that information would have also been part of the drill/simulation?

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There was a drill however running simultaneously to the attack which confused air defenses. The hijackers were more like McVeigh, they wanted to commit terrorism. But in each hijackers cell were Mossad, like the fake Atta for example. They were playing the role of Straussmeir. If you don't know he was the guy on load from the CIA who was with McVeigh in the Ryder Truck and who was the truck bomb maker. The real damage just like OKC was done by bomb already in the building. Rather than outsourcing that to sloppies as the PR908 did in OKC since it went so badly they hired professionals, Mossad who were all working under fake passports and IDs thus plausible deniability.

Same as JFK if it went sour all the blame would have been dumped on the mob team they were the only ones firing without silencers. So if shit hit the fan they would get the full blame and couldn't nark out anyone else as the right hand doesn't know what the left is doing.


But those wanting to commit terrorism must have known about the airliner being remote-controlled. If the airliners could be hijacked with remote control, then the function of the on-board hijackers would become redundant, unless their function were to cover up for the remote-controlled hijacking. If their role was to cover-up, then they must have also been aware that it was a false-flag operation. Therefore, the plan as the on-board hijackers understood it must have been different from how it was actually carried out, as it seems likely that they would have expected to come out of that alive if they were covering up something. If to them it was a suicide mission to commit terrorism, then why bother covering up?


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 Post subject: Re: Flight 93 oddities
 Post Posted: Wed Apr 04, 2012 3:14 am 
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Is it not possible that the calls that provided that information would have also been part of the drill/simulation?

No those were real people with families they were not all in on it and they died.

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But those wanting to commit terrorism must have known about the airliner being remote-controlled. If the airliners could be hijacked with remote control, then the function of the on-board hijackers would become redundant, unless their function were to cover up for the remote-controlled hijacking


What? Don't be stupid. If there aren't any hijackers how the fuck can they explain why the planes rammed into buildings? They have to have hijackers. Otherwise people would call as soon as the planes turned around and expose the whole plot.

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If their role was to cover-up, then they must have also been aware that it was a false-flag operation. Therefore, the plan as the on-board hijackers understood it must have been different from how it was actually carried out, as it seems likely that they would have expected to come out of that alive if they were covering up something. If to them it was a suicide mission to commit terrorism, then why bother covering up?


Why would they think its a false flag? It wasn't a false flag. They had no idea what was going on. They wanted to ram the plane into buildings though. Or at minimal hold them ransom. Same as McVeigh wanted to truck bomb OKC. What they didn't know is all the assistance they had from the US and Israeli intelligence agencies.

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 Post subject: Re: Flight 93 oddities
 Post Posted: Wed Apr 04, 2012 10:11 am 
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Ry wrote:
No those were real people with families they were not all in on it and they died.


Yes, but what I meant was that those real people would have participated, thinking it was just a short drill, without realizing what the true intent was behind it. I don't think anyone on those airliners expected to die and its probably why there was little to no resistance on the other 3 flights.

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What? Don't be stupid. If there aren't any hijackers how the fuck can they explain why the planes rammed into buildings? They have to have hijackers. Otherwise people would call as soon as the planes turned around and expose the whole plot.


That's what I'm saying; the whole function of the on-board hijackers would have only been to cover up the remote-controlled hijacking, and in order to do so successfully, they would have to know about it.

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Why would they think its a false flag? It wasn't a false flag. They had no idea what was going on. They wanted to ram the plane into buildings though. Or at minimal whole them ransom. Same as McVeigh wanted to truck bomb OKC. What they didn't know is all the assistance they had from the US and Israeli intelligence agencies.


How could they not have known about the involvement of others when the airliners they were hijacking were being remotely guided into the buildings? If the on-board hijackers didn't know, then they would have also reacted to it being remote controlled. The passengers and crew would have gotten wind of it and told everyone, thus exposing the plot.


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 Post subject: Re: Flight 93 oddities
 Post Posted: Wed Apr 04, 2012 10:35 am 
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How could they not have known about the involvement of others when the airliners they were hijacking were being remotely guided into the buildings?


Wouldn't matter if they knew then because they were all going to die, once they were in range they have seconds to react and only the pilot would know and theier goal was most likely to hit the building anyway. Probably dumb enough to think allah was helping them.

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 Post subject: Re: Flight 93 oddities
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It's amazing how much BS there is around the 9/11 truth movement, you've got people who won't say anything about Israel, people who say there were no hijackers, and people who even say there were no planes!


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 Post subject: Re: Flight 93 oddities
 Post Posted: Thu Apr 05, 2012 10:53 am 
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The hijackers did not know about any bombs in the buildings or the remote control They were hijacking planes to ram into buildings. Once they were were within range the planes were taken over by remote the useful idiots had served their purpose. Thus the black boxes form the pentagon was destroyed the ones from WTC never found. 93 cuts out the last 3 minutes.

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 Post subject: Re: Flight 93 oddities
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Ry wrote:
The hijackers did not know about any bombs in the buildings or the remote control They were hijacking planes to ram into buildings. Once they were were within range the planes were taken over by remote the useful idiots had served their purpose. Thus the black boxes form the pentagon was destroyed the ones from WTC never found. 93 cuts out the last 3 minutes.


Then what of this alleged cockpit recording of flight 11, where the hijacker apparently has an Israeli accent?:

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It's amazing how much BS there is around the 9/11 truth movement, you've got people who won't say anything about Israel, people who say there were no hijackers, and people who even say there were no planes!


The idea that there were no on-board hijackers was the working theory at one point, when it was believed that all the calls were faked.


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