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 Post subject: D Irving - A Conversation about Real History
 Post Posted: Tue Mar 27, 2012 4:00 pm 
 
Intersting vid from 2008

talking points

germans killed jews ( nothing new there) but Hitler didnt want that to happen

himmler had made that decision and had it done (especially in the aktion reinhard camps) and wanted it kept secret.

irving had access to 43 volumes of decoded german messages

if i remember correctly he suggests himmler's programme could have eliminated 2 million jews

(not 6)

he doesnt go into how - though the germans seemed to like the tommygun - (not much info on this)

anyway here it is




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 Post subject: Re: D Irving - A Conversation about Real History
 Post Posted: Tue Mar 27, 2012 6:00 pm 
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Irving is a Hitler-o-phile.

Hitler's main enemy in his own words were international finance capitalist and the communist.

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 Post subject: Re: D Irving - A Conversation about Real History
 Post Posted: Thu Mar 29, 2012 12:38 pm 
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There was no plan to kill Jews. NEVER. Not from Hitler. Not from Himmler. Not anyone. That alleged tape with Himmler having a secret meeting telling other nazis to keep the extermination plan secret is a forgery.

"Speer knew Holocaust plan"/ Posen speech
http://forum.codoh.com/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=4286

HIMMLER'S SO CALLED EXTERMINATION OF THE JEWS SPEECH
http://forum.codoh.com/viewtopic.php?t=5474

I'm sure you've all seen Mike wallace trying to trap Ernst Zundel on television with this Himmler speech crap before.

Ernst Zundel caught lying again
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DNRGhIowG9g

Here's what you didn't know about that video. They tried to trap Zundel and make him look bad but he said I will only interview you if you allow ME to bring along a recorder and tape this WHOLE INTERVIEW for my personal records. At first they refused. Why? Because they didn't want him to be able to save his image one day if he had to. Eventually they relented because Zundel was going to go public about how a supposedly bulletproof theory of history and perfect journalists APPARENTLY were afraid to let an alleged lunatic document his own lunacy. Which makes little sense of course. And yet that's what happened. So clearly they were scared of Zundel. Now in Michael Hoffman's book THE GREAT HOLOCAUST TRIAL, he talks about this a little.

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In seeking to ingratiate himself with the higher ups, Mike Wallace cut a deal with the Anti Defamation League to definitively smear revisionists on Sixty Minutes. The ADL admitted that: "The League worked closely with the staff of CBS's Sixty Minutes in the preparation of a recent segment exposing the fallacies of holocaust denial."

Out of a one hundred minute conversation with Mike Wallace, and jewish producer Barry Landau (who was firing question prompts to Wallace off camera), Sixty Minutes chose to use four minutes of Zundel's remarks, mostly centered around Himmler's Posen speech. Wallace led Zundel to believe he was making a reference to intercepted radio transcripts of the speech but immediatly after Ernst made a comment about Posen the camera cut to a scene of original German documents in a Washington archives, as if to show that Zundel didn't know what he was talking about.

It was indeed a hatchet job but Zundel did preserve a single ace up his well worn sleeve. Before agreeing to be interviewed he insisted, as a prerequisite of his appearance that he be allowed to have the complete interview taped by a friend who possessed professional audio equipment. In desperation Sixty Minutes agreed.

It is a most edifying and entertaining one hundred minutes. Zundel - though always courteous - competely dominates Mike Wallace. He reels off dates, he invokes personalities, he cites reports and when Wallace is particularly scornful or sneering, he jokes with a killer wit which disarms the sanctimony in which acolytes of the holy hoax, attire their glittering generalities and asinine axioms.

If any extended segment of that interview had been broadcast on Sixty Minutes, Zundel would have made thousands of new allies on the spot. As it was, in the four minutes allotted to him he managed to convey an image of a gentleman and a stalwartly defiant revisionist. So in spite of Barry Landau and the ADL, Zundel made some new friends anyway.


As for the aktion reinhard camps if any extermination happened, it would have been in those camps. We already know all the lies about Auschwitz, Dacuau, etc that have been exposed. But the evidence is lacking there. GPR work at Treblinka and alleged core samples taken at Belzec that have never been proven by Kola to scientifically contain the human remains he claims are there don't prove the holocaust. Proper excavations will but Jews always step in the way of that and complain about disturbing the remains of the dead. Problem is, Jews make excuses for digging up Jews all the time so this complaint seems almost like a protection racket.

viewtopic.php?p=175685#p175685

As for David Irving himself, I have gone into him on detail with the help of exposures of other authors. The guy is a pedophile, a pervert and a poor historian. Hell he even claims the Goebbels diaries are authentic when there is absolutely no proof they are. Well okay, some may have been written by Goebbels, but the most damning passages which allegedly point to a homicidal 'final solution' are VERY QUESTIONABLE.

The Goebbels diary: a forgery?
http://forum.codoh.com/viewtopic.php?t=3793

Do your homework on Irving.

viewtopic.php?p=171501#p171501

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 Post subject: Re: D Irving - A Conversation about Real History
 Post Posted: Thu Mar 29, 2012 3:17 pm 
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I always chuckle when I hear about secret meetings and secret talks. Sounds to me like no secret at all.

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if they wanted to kill them they all would have died the first day at camp heck why even ship them to camps, it takes longer to load poeple on trains than it does to shoot them.

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 Post subject: Re: D Irving - A Conversation about Real History
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Can the full 100 minute Zundel interview be viewed anywhere?


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 Post subject: Re: D Irving - A Conversation about Real History
 Post Posted: Fri Mar 30, 2012 1:46 am 
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To my knowledge, no.

Did you know Ry, that Freidrich Paul Berg of nazigassings.com has been in a huge fight with French Revisionist Robert Faurisson for years. Freidrich claims that Faurisson is foolish for ignoring the fact that the Nazis could have gassed the Jews on the trains and disposed of them more quickly.

Gas Chambers for Robert Faurisson:Answers to a Challenge
http://www.nazigassings.com/faurisson.html

NAZI Railroad Delousing Tunnels for Public Health, or Mass Murder!
http://www.nazigassings.com/Railroad.html

Berg is a scientist and a mechanic and I believe he alone was responsible for getting the gas chamber mongers to drop the diesel engine theory since diesel engines do not produce enough Carbon Monoxide to kill people and because carbon monoxide poisoning would render corpses red instead of blue. however others say that so many were packed into the chambers that they didn't need to turn red and die from Carbon Monoxide. They say the diesel engine merely sucked the air out of the room, limited as it was, and thus the limited CO from the diesel engines suffocated them which rendered them blue. Maybe so, but we can solve this question of the allegedly high numbers of dead Jews still in Treblinka for example with a proper archaeological function that will disturb the ground a bit. But as I said Jews love to play the religion card and say no, yet they have made exceptions other times. That's the double minded Talmudic mentality coming through.

If it's the case that a diesel engine was adjusted to pump out more CO like idiots claim, then why do the gas chamber mongers feel the need to search for other nazi "confessions" that talk about soviet tank engines or petrol engines since the diesel exhaust death makes no sense? They can't have it both ways. Idiots like Andrew Mathis still cling to the diesel engine theory claiming the nazis somehow adjusted it mechanically to pump out more CO. But that's unnecessary if they were allegedly using petrol engines. They love to have it both ways don't you see? And of course with all of this, I'm not talking about Auschwitz or Dauchu or Buchenwald. I'm talking about the reinhard camps Treblinka, Belzec and Sobibor.

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 Post subject: Re: D Irving - A Conversation about Real History
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the gassing story has no evidence and doesn't even make sense obviously given all the survivors and peopel who spent years in more than one camp they were LABOR camps, still wrong to do to people but its important because the only thing separating the axis from the allied powers is the holocaust myth. Without that there is no moral high ground.

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