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Flight 77 hit the pentagon. There is no reason not to hit it with the plane that they need to hit it with and many reasons why not to use anything else. As for how the plane was hijacked, the hijackers were there only in so far as to explain to the public what happened to the planes, and someone to blame it on. They all sucked at flying, who knows if they really even knew what was gonna happen (left hand not knowing what the right is doing) they could have been told it was a drill, there were war games like that going on. The real piloting was by remote control. And commercial 757s could easily be outfitted for that (SPC). They have to have a hijacker though because they can't very well explain away a plane just changing course by itself and ramming into building in key financial targets for a massive cover up. To hit either tower which were barely wider than a plane, or to hit the pentagon is a massive feat for even the best pilots. No way they could risk a miss. Those planes were guided, well minus one.

Flight 93 really was taken down because of the passengers or the pilots it seems. They had to take that down there before anyone got on the air phone or got a cell phone working. I do not however believe it was blown up in the air. Nor was a hole shown on loose change really the hole of the plane crash. About 95% of that plane was recovered as was the blackbox, thus is blew up on the ground not the air. The reason the crash is so much different that other crashes is because in other natural crashed the pilots put the landing gear down and at least attempt to land the plane. This thing was flying upside down and took a nose dive into a hill. It's target was most likely Building 7 and the government looked really stupid demolishing that even though the plane never reached it. So the Americans on that plane, their sacrifice, really led to the whole unraveling of 911. It was not in vain.

The only odd thing is huge puff of smoke in the air. It could have been just how the wind carried the initial mushroom of smoke. Shooting the plane down and then denying it would be stupid as it risks people seeing it. If they felt like oh we lost control go shoot it down, they easily could have just said well planes already hit in new york so we shot this one down to prevent greater lost. But instead people did see it crash and the plane was at the crash sites as were bodies. Movies saying it was just a little ditch are full of shit. That is pure disinformation. Loose change was really damaging to 911 truth. The kids that made it were fed mountains of BS and being the naive drugged out douche bags that they are the bought every word of it. They were given financial assistance for the films by the wife of a Jewish Billionaire. Go figure why Israel is not mentioned in any of them., and why Kosher Jones promoted it.

Basically whenever you hear Kosher Jones go off on something, he's lying. I don't know if he is a target to feed disinfo to because of his audience or if he himself knows better and is part of the disinfo paid off or whatever. I tend to lean toward him just being a fool and getting used. But I flip flop on that some days, because the shit he says sometimes is so stupid and off the wall. Still that could just be to make money. Greedy but not the same as an insider.


and for remote controlled planes


Flight 77 my 2 cents

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OK, you know i agree with your stand Planes was used. So i'm not going to touch it.
But the Ron Paul Veteran march, I do want to talk about, Everyone needs to spread the word and get all the people you can to support it, Its your chance to become a soldier for your constitution and march with them for liberty.
I go and open up at least 5 Ron Paul Video's on You Tube a day and give the thumbs up for him to get exposure. This video needs to flying around everywhere, I'm posting it on threads the information and i also add Please no violence, We can not have thugs there to ruin the event. It will be a good day out. This event will bring people together for the best cause ever. Cheer's

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Ry,

What are your 2 cents on the discrepancies of the passenger lists? Some names are on some, but not on others, and some names appear on 2 different flights.

Im interested in this, Any links to your info?

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Hi Ry,

It is very good to keep this subject of the events of 9/11/01 in the minds of the people. I believe this crime, unsolved and uninvestigated by real criminologists, to be the festering sore that is at the heart of our current malaise of government.

However, there are a few points I do not agree with:

1. Flight 77 could not have made the holes in the then recently reinforced Pentagon walls, no way. If the plane's cockpit could "bore a hole" through these walls....a cockpit made of aluminum and carbon fiber...you'd have to explain how the titanium and stainless steel engines did not...not possible. That's a fact, Ry. You'd also have to explain what the "rescuers" were carrying under the blue tarp...and why they needed to hide whatever it was.

One ground witness stated he had the jet fly "directly over him" while standing at the Pentagon perimeter.....ever see videos of these jets flipping over cars and trucks when flying that low? It would have lifted him and slammed him fatally into the wall of the Pentagon, a very weak lie.

Do you know who that witness was? The "boss" of the male prostitute/ Bush White House "correspondent" of Texas-based "Talon News", Jeff Gannon. Again, this is all documented and easily confirmed...surely you recall the Jeff Gannon story?

Did Flt. 77 impact the Pentagon? I think not, and the Pilots for 911 Truth website can explain it much better than I...but the FDR (flight data recorder) stated the cabin doors to cockpit were *never opened* after take-off. Again: Never opened after take-off. And it showed an altitude of 700 ft as it passed over the Pentagon...I believe it landed at either next-door National Airport...or Andrews AFB.

Obviously, a missile hit the Pentagon, and left it's tell-tale bored hole, easily found in other building struck by them...google it and see.

2. Flight 93. It was supposed to impact WTC 7...but got shot down by Air National Guard. Two former Vietnam vet witnesses out hunting the woods of Pennsylvania that day stated they "heard a missile fired from a military jet" they witnessed flying in the area, then saw the passenger jet "upside down and on fire" come over a mountain. Also, there were local news station videos taken from helicopter of the 8 mile debris trail...Ry, if there was no hole...and not shot in air...kindly explain the documented-on-video debris trail 8 miles from impact. Youtube it and see. And, there at Youtube, is a video of a man stating he was under the flight path in a meeting, and the lights (power) blinked off a few seconds right before crash. Then he states he told this story later...and had a Air Force vet come up and tell him that when a USAF jet "locks on" a target...it disrupts power in the area. There is also a video of the National Guard pilot receiving a medal for his actions on 9/11/01.....what do you suppose that medal was for: the inability to do anything that day?

Fact is, the Pentagon has the most sophisticated tracking system in the world...right there, and anti-aircraft batteries around roof and perimeter of building...and stood down and watched whatever stuck the Pentagon home in from miles and miles away. Transportation Secretary Norm Mineta, in the room with Dick Cheney at this time period, gave the testimony that Cheney ordered the stand down. Numerous times he ordered it, while a "young officer" kept coming in the room to give the latest distance of approaching plane. Young officer: "do the orders still stand?" Cheney: "Have you heard any orders to the contrary?"

I'd guess what actually occurred.....was something along the lines of a military jet firing a missile, then a drone disguised as an American Airlines jet impacting the Pentagon, flying directly below Flt 77, which passed over, then landed. Just a guess. But for certain, the "hole" was enlarged by construction machinery after impact, and a quick look at the edges, showing the marks of the machinery, is easily discerned. Again, I'd guess a concrete breaker attached to a backhoe from the looks of it. You can see the chisel marks.....

General Stubblefield, an expert at analyzing damage caused by weaponry and military attacks from satellite and spy plane photos...stated quite clearly that no way a passenger jet made that hole...Youtube Stubblefield and listen.

Keep up the good work, again, there is no statute of limitations on murder....when the Change Arrives, and the perps "Battlefield America" NDAA B.S. fails to protect them from the Americans awakening to their agenda.....we will re-institute Justice, give them a fair trial...and then picnic on the banks of the Potomac...while we hang their sorry butts from the Key Bridge. It will be a weekend event....long list of perps needing necks stretched.

Had to go digging a bit, but I did manage to find this archive on the issue:

Media published fake passenger lists for American Airlines Flight 11

farang,

There is no aspect of the Pentagon attack on 9/11 that cannot be explained by a commercial airliner impact and secondary explosives, nor is there any aspect of the attack that is inconsistent with a commercial airliner impact and secondary explosives.

It is interesting how the original "no plane hit the pentagon" idea had nothing hitting the pentagon at all, but just explosives being planted there. What was the need to add a missile to that idea, when there is absolutely no evidence to support it?

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Ok your facts are wrong. The engines did tare through the building. The landing gear made the punch out hole not the nose cone. The gear is sitting in front of the hole. It did not have to go through all the reinforced columns or even walls because it hit the first floor.


Secondly you are ignoring all the dead people, the 47 witnesses who saw a passenger plane, the planes parts of that same plane in the building, the 90 foot entrance hole. No motive for a missile, and no evidence for one, and countless people in Northern Va saw a plane go TO the pentagon and 0 saw one fly AWAY from it.

Im so sick of repeating these things. I even made a video about it. And you loose change people still pop up with the SAME exact rhetoric. I know you didn't even watch it because it addresses the things you said. As for Jeff Gannon he is irrelevant I dont know that he even said those things, but that guy and the statements he made or didn't make have nothing to do with how we know a plane hit.



and read this too http://www.oilempire.us/pentagon-hole.html
and then this http://911research.wtc7.net/talks/noplane/index.html

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