Anti-Neocons

no the idea there is a supernatural power greater than yourself is what you are saying and much more than that, a creator of everything and usually some way of it comunicating with YOU.

I uses words like stupid and idot because that is exactly what I want to say. Its not like in a debate about something else when you say somehting its stupid, its not reallys stupid its just an insult. I'm not using these words as insults. I am using them as litteral discriptions. When I say idiot that is what a mean litteraly an idiot.

Long ago god was eveything, why does it rain god, what is a rainbow, god what is an earthwquake god, where do babies come from, god, why doesn't the sun fall down, god, any and everything was "explained" with a god did it answer. Time has show those answers to be wrong 100% and natural explinations which are varifiable and do not have god or magic are what are actually going on.

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What I was saying was that anyone can logically come to the conclusion that there is a power greater than themselves on their own without having to be told that. Yes, the specifics cannot be deduced logically, and in this case of how it can be logically deduced, I wasn't referring to the specifics, but the basic, general idea, which can be deduced logically.

The term "supernatural" basically refers to anything that is beyond the natural order of things. But then what exactly is "beyond the natural order of things" is entirely subjective.



How can the "God did it" answer be 100% wrong, when the specifics of how God supposedly did it, is rarely provided to begin with? You cannot successfully disprove ambiguous concepts like "God did it" with only the specific processes of what was done.

The only reason humans have created a supernatural power/s is to explain their ever changing real world. Human have a real need "desire" to cling to something, some absolute truth to provide comfort. The reality is we live in an ever changing real world and need to stop clinging to our ego entity and start living. However if your belief provides you comfort and keeps you from doing harm than "believe".

for the 500th time

I am not saying Atheists have to disprove anything. What I am saying, or what I am trying to say, is that x does not disprove the existence of God, as has been claimed.

If you say x disproves y, and I say that it doesn't, that doesn't mean I'm saying you have to disprove y, only that x fails to do so.

Yes, I am aware of that, and my comment wasn't directed towards atheism, but towards a specific argument, namely, that natural explanations for phenomena are 100% proof against the existence of God.



Indeed, and I would be insane to dispute the scientific data, which I am not going to do, nor is there any need for me to do so, since there is no contradiction between the scientific data and my religion. However, the actual scientific data, and the conclusions that scientists draw from it, are 2 different things. I can accept the former without necessarily having to accept the latter. Now, with regards to evolution, I also think it is currently the most viable explanation for the data that is available, and aside for its explanation of the origin of humans, there is no contradiction between it and my religion.

First of you are starting with the asumption of creation which is a logically fallacy.

Youll have to prove there was ever only nothing to necesitate a creation to occur in the first place and even with that you will be forced to say at minimal there was only nothing except for this god/magic figure and then it made everything, also magically. And then why it did it and when it did it and what was it doing before that just sitting there forever doing nothing?

I say it is a logical fallacy because of this. And this is not science, this is more simple its basic logic. Something can not come from nothing nor nothing from something yet somethingness is here. Thus since it can not be nothing and can not come from nothing, then it did not come from nothing. In fact it did not come. It IS. thus matter must be eternal.

The answer is not, oh there was only nothing accept for this one magical thing and it just created everthing at some point in time so that hundreds of billions of years later when people evolved on earth it could write a book for them (through them) and explain what they need to do so that it doesn't burn them.

Seriously sit down and think about it. That is why I call religious people retarded.

lastly for the 501 time you can't prove a negative. I dont have to prove there are no elves riding unicorns, you have to prove that there are. If you can't then the idea of them it is safe to say came from imagination not reality. And you also can't point to something unexplained yet and say ah ha the elves riding unicorns made that that way and stick to that until I have the must larger task of explaining how it actually works. I dont even have to know how it works, all I have to know is how it doesn't work and that's elves riding unicorns.

If you ask me how a computer works I mean down to the chemical and electric reactions I have no idea but other people do and I know its natural not super natural. you can't just say god does it, same with how a cell reproduces, I kind of know how that works but not every detail but I do know its natural not super natural. And if we are to adopt a path to learn about this world and imporve our own technology and health and understanding then we had best chose to deal with it all godless in a natural way and leave god for literary entertainment of severe momonets of emotional distress or for children unable to get their minds around how things really work.

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