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You want key names for 9/11?
I thought you were asking about the Illuminati and Zionism, silly me.

Key names of individuals and corporations involved in 9/11....(in no particular order)

AIG
Marsh and McClellan
KROLL
Jerome Hauer
Stephen Hatfield (Anthrax)
George Bush (both, Jr to a lesser degree.)
Dick Cheney
Don Rumsfeld
Paul Wolfowitz
Richard Perle
Douglas Feith
Scooter Libby
Mayor Giuliani
Hammerin Hank Greenberg
CIA
FBI
ISI
Mossad
British Intelligence
Huffman Aviation
Wally Hilliard
Personel in the FAA
Larry Silverstein
FEMA
Several banking institutions like the BCCI
Heads of Counter-Terrorism
Whomever placed the put options
The companies involved in the hundreds of millions of credit card fraud leading up to the attacks.

Most of this evidence can be seen in 1 film...
www.wkjo.com

So it would be sort of redundant for me to link everything all nice and pretty. Just go, watch and take notes. Then tune in to 9/11 Synchronicity, hell call in. Call Richard Grove, he can lay it all out for you much better than I. He will probably steer clear of the Jesuit connection for now, but he got the best grasp on all of this than anyone else I have come across.

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Your rant is equally impressive.
Im not saying the Zionists are Illuminati...
Im saying the Zionists are being manipulated by the same people that manipulated the Illuminati, which is the Jesuits and the Catholic Church.


That would be the entire rest of this website here here here and here and my book too.
The oil does not go to the Vatican it goes to Israel. The money that finances the illegal military occupation of Palestine does not come from the Catholic Church it comes from Protestant Christian Zionists. You are falling for disinformation brought to you by Protestant preachers like Tex Marrs and Ted Pike.

Wake up. The Mossad was in the towers prior to 911. (posing as art students and urban movers) Fox pulled a 4 part report on the large Israeli spy ring.

The Mossad was caught on the day of 911 cheering and had a hit with the bomb sniffing dogs in their van which had an address of a moving company on in in New Jersey that ended up being a empty wearhouse whose owner fled to Israel.

Atta had a double and was seen on the Zionist Jack Abarmoff:s casion ships on Sep 5th. PNAC was written by the same people who wrote the Israel Clean Break papers. They also overlap with the people in the CFR and they practially are all Jewish too (25 out of 27).

Silverstien another Jewish Zionist was the new owner of the WTC buildings. He was in on it.

The Anthrax letters that came after the attack said death to Israel and Death to America. The Evidence however showed the Anthrax could have only come from three places because of its caliber, Israel, the US or Russia. They tried to blame it on an Egyptian but they messed up their story.

Someone tried this before in 1993 during the first WTC bombing where an Egyptian patsy recorded his conversations with the FBI who were telling him to go park the van and it was only a drill.

Israel also pulled a false flag operation in the Lavon affair but their plot was foiled. Israel also attacked the USS Liberty and tried to blame that on Egypt as well, but there were survivors so that story din:t work either and they changed their story and said they attacked the US ship by mistake. Yeh right with unmarked planes.

AIPAC (Israel's largest lobby) has been caught red handed spying on the US and their court date is set for October yet the date has been moved three times. Don't confuse that with the ADL spying or the Fox New Report on an Israeli spy ring this is a THIRD spy ring.

The OSP a nearly all Jewish faction in the DOD is who fabricated evidence od WMDs to start a war with Iraq something they called for in PNAC.

Lewis Libby who is Jewish and a PNAC author ousted the CIA agent Valarie Plame and by doing so also her front company BJA and all the agents who used it, in order to destroy our ability to track Uranium. This was to try and cover up the lies about the acquistion of Uranium. He has resigned.

We got concrete evidence of a forgery concerning the claims that Iraq tried to buy yellowcake Uranium from Niger.

The information AIPAC was stealing pretained to Iran and we all know it is ISRAEL calling the loudest for a war with Iran.

Want some names?

Who wrote PNAC?

PNAC was first written in Israel. It was Paul Wolowittz, Richard Perle, Lewis Libby, Douglas Feith, Bill Kristal (CFR) and Elliot Abrams (CFR) Aaron Friedberg also (CFR) Donald Kagan (CFR) Robert Kagan(CFR) Stephen Rosen (the AIPAC employee caught spying on the US!!) Eliot A. Cohen (The guy saying the Walt/Mearsheimer papers on APIC are Anti-Semitic), Paula Dobriansky, Fred C. Ikle, and Norman Podhoretz, All Zionists and all Jewish. That's not anti-Semetic it's just the truth and what that means is they have dual citizenship and put the another nation's interests ahead of the US.

We can see what Israel is doing in Lebanon and how they pan to drag us all into a wider war once the international force arives Israel will spark up another war to spill over into Syria and Iran.

How can you NOT see the Zionist face on all of this. They wrote what they planned on doing and then they did it. Don:t blame this on the Catholic Church. Dont listen to Protestan preachers when they talk about any other religion and that goes for blaming Catholics or the Devil or Athiest or Muslims ect.

Truth is the Protestant came about as a divide from the Catholics because the Catholic Church outlawed Usuery. The Protestants have had a Jewish Alliance and they milk that conlfict dry through the Military industrial complex.

The Mossad is not the Zionists that is like saying the CIA is the Neocons. Zionism is greater than the Mossad. And Zionists were conducting war games. And My theory is not "the zionists" it is as it is written in my book on the cover, it's the Neocons AND the Zionist camarilla. There are people in the MIC who went along with the war in Iraq to profit from it. They have overlapping interest with the Zionist. But they were not the same as those who rigged 911. You also dont have to be Jewish to be a Zionist. Jeb and George Bush, Cheney, and Rumsfeld are not Jewish but they are Born Again Christian types who tow the Zionist line for as I already said nobody support Zionist more than Protestant Christians.

Also the Federal Reserve and the WTO are both headed by Jewish Zionists. The Rothchilds family everyone like to talk about is also Jewish and also Zionist they were key in the creation of the Israeli state.

You don't have anything to refute this evidence and you don't have any solid evidence about Iraq or 911 and the Catholic Church (black Pope etc) who by the way condemned the war in Iraq. You have been listening to classic Christian bullshit. I hope you don't think Christmas and Easter are from Christian origins as well. They pervert history.

LBJ killed JFK on behalf of the MIC and warmongers JFK fired from the CIA. It was LBJ who allowed Israel to attack and US ship to try and justify a war in the Middle East on Israel's behalf. Zionism is older than 1870. It's been around since Biblical times of Samson killing 1000 Philistines (Palestinians). Before the Catholic Church or Christianity even existed.

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Ry, instead of you sitting there and holding your tongue like you said, why don't you just let me hold it?? Haha. I dont think it really matters what you would call anyone...whether it be Illuminati (they do exist. I used to know a woman from New York who was one...) or Zionists or whatever...evil is evil. When one does wrong knowingly which will harm or kill others he might as well be a follower of the devil. Following in the footsteps of evil is doing satans work. Planning a demolition of a building while understanding that many people will thus be sacrificed in order to put ones plan of action into place is the doctrine of lucifer.
I dont honestly feel swayed by where they worship or even if they worship, there is way more going on than we are seeing...there was a band named Diamond Reo, out of Pittsburgh back in the seventies and one of their hits was called, "Aint what you say, its what you do" in which Frank Tyker sang, "Well she took my money, and blew away my time. New me on long distance only when it was my dime. I sucked on each and every word. How could I be so blind? Talk is cheap and someday she's gonna find...oh its true. It aint what you say, its what you do..."
Pointing fingers and fabricating fables went out with the brothers Grimm.
When will president Bush do anything praiseworthy for the common people? It takes integrity to understand what is right and what is wrong. I believe that Bush was always the wimp who let other stronger personalities chart his course for him. Unfortunately it is still going on.

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Ry, instead of you sitting there and holding your tongue like you said, why don't you just let me hold it?? Haha. I dont think it really matters what you would call anyone...whether it be Illuminati (they do exist. I used to know a woman from New York who was one...) or Zionists or whatever...evil is evil


It matters because one is linked to the ZIonist movement which is real and observable just look at Palestine and has a tracable money trail back to Protestant Christian churches. And they other group blames amouphus people with no names and claims of satanism or the black pope or a germanic death cult or a bavarian free mason group, or atheists they have like 6 or 7 different origins of the illuminati all blaming the problems of the world on Protestant enemies.

Its important to me that people know who did what and how. And the ties to religious instiutions shuold be known and the ties to the fascist state of Israel should be made clear because they are the reason why we fight.

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Your rant is equally impressive.
Im not saying the Zionists are Illuminati...
Im saying the Zionists are being manipulated by the same people that manipulated the Illuminati, which is the Jesuits and the Catholic Church.


That would be the entire rest of this website here here here and here and my book too.
The oil does not go to the Vatican it goes to Israel. The money that finances the illegal military occupation of Palestine does not come from the Catholic Church it comes from Protestant Christian Zionists. You are falling for disinformation brought to you by Protestant preachers like Tex Marrs and Ted Pike.

Wake up. The Mossad was in the towers prior to 911. (posing as art students and urban movers) Fox pulled a 4 part report on the large Israeli spy ring.

The Mossad was caught on the day of 911 cheering and had a hit with the bomb sniffing dogs in their van which had an address of a moving company on in in New Jersey that ended up being a empty wearhouse whose owner fled to Israel.

Atta had a double and was seen on the Zionist Jack Abarmoff:s casion ships on Sep 5th. PNAC was written by the same people who wrote the Israel Clean Break papers. They also overlap with the people in the CFR and they practially are all Jewish too (25 out of 27).

Silverstien another Jewish Zionist was the new owner of the WTC buildings. He was in on it.

The Anthrax letters that came after the attack said death to Israel and Death to America. The Evidence however showed the Anthrax could have only come from three places because of its caliber, Israel, the US or Russia. They tried to blame it on an Egyptian but they messed up their story.

Someone tried this before in 1993 during the first WTC bombing where an Egyptian patsy recorded his conversations with the FBI who were telling him to go park the van and it was only a drill.

Israel also pulled a false flag operation in the Lavon affair but their plot was foiled. Israel also attacked the USS Liberty and tried to blame that on Egypt as well, but there were survivors so that story din:t work either and they changed their story and said they attacked the US ship by mistake. Yeh right with unmarked planes.

AIPAC (Israel's largest lobby) has been caught red handed spying on the US and their court date is set for October yet the date has been moved three times. Don't confuse that with the ADL spying or the Fox New Report on an Israeli spy ring this is a THIRD spy ring.

The OSP a nearly all Jewish faction in the DOD is who fabricated evidence od WMDs to start a war with Iraq something they called for in PNAC.

Lewis Libby who is Jewish and a PNAC author ousted the CIA agent Valarie Plame and by doing so also her front company BJA and all the agents who used it, in order to destroy our ability to track Uranium. This was to try and cover up the lies about the acquistion of Uranium. He has resigned.

We got concrete evidence of a forgery concerning the claims that Iraq tried to buy yellowcake Uranium from Niger.

The information AIPAC was stealing pretained to Iran and we all know it is ISRAEL calling the loudest for a war with Iran.

Want some names?

Who wrote PNAC?

PNAC was first written in Israel. It was Paul Wolowittz, Richard Perle, Lewis Libby, Douglas Feith, Bill Kristal (CFR) and Elliot Abrams (CFR) Aaron Friedberg also (CFR) Donald Kagan (CFR) Robert Kagan(CFR) Stephen Rosen (the AIPAC employee caught spying on the US!!) Eliot A. Cohen (The guy saying the Walt/Mearsheimer papers on APIC are Anti-Semitic), Paula Dobriansky, Fred C. Ikle, and Norman Podhoretz, All Zionists and all Jewish. That's not anti-Semetic it's just the truth and what that means is they have dual citizenship and put the another nation's interests ahead of the US.

We can see what Israel is doing in Lebanon and how they pan to drag us all into a wider war once the international force arives Israel will spark up another war to spill over into Syria and Iran.

How can you NOT see the Zionist face on all of this. They wrote what they planned on doing and then they did it. Don:t blame this on the Catholic Church. Dont listen to Protestan preachers when they talk about any other religion and that goes for blaming Catholics or the Devil or Athiest or Muslims ect.

Truth is the Protestant came about as a divide from the Catholics because the Catholic Church outlawed Usuery. The Protestants have had a Jewish Alliance and they milk that conlfict dry through the Military industrial complex.

The Mossad is not the Zionists that is like saying the CIA is the Neocons. Zionism is greater than the Mossad. And Zionists were conducting war games. And My theory is not "the zionists" it is as it is written in my book on the cover, it's the Neocons AND the Zionist camarilla. There are people in the MIC who went along with the war in Iraq to profit from it. They have overlapping interest with the Zionist. But they were not the same as those who rigged 911. You also dont have to be Jewish to be a Zionist. Jeb and George Bush, Cheney, and Rumsfeld are not Jewish but they are Born Again Christian types who tow the Zionist line for as I already said nobody support Zionist more than Protestant Christians.

Also the Federal Reserve and the WTO are both headed by Jewish Zionists. The Rothchilds family everyone like to talk about is also Jewish and also Zionist they were key in the creation of the Israeli state.

You don't have anything to refute this evidence and you don't have any solid evidence about Iraq or 911 and the Catholic Church (black Pope etc) who by the way condemned the war in Iraq. You have been listening to classic Christian bullshit. I hope you don't think Christmas and Easter are from Christian origins as well. They pervert history.

LBJ killed JFK on behalf of the MIC and warmongers JFK fired from the CIA. It was LBJ who allowed Israel to attack and US ship to try and justify a war in the Middle East on Israel's behalf. Zionism is older than 1870. It's been around since Biblical times of Samson killing 1000 Philistines (Palestinians). Before the Catholic Church or Christianity even existed.


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Orwell ghost why did you just make a quote of my post and not reply naything to it? Were you just showing blondbomb that I was not holding my tongue? It was a odd reply. Did you write something and delete it by mistake or something?

I can never get a clear defintion of the illuminati or any evidence with it and 911 or Iraq. The best they ever get is guilt by 6 degrees of association.

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Ry wrote:
Orwell ghost why did you just make a quote of my post and not reply naything to it? Were you just showing blondbomb that I was not holding my tongue? It was a odd reply. Did you write something and delete it by mistake or something?

I can never get a clear defintion of the illuminati or any evidence with it and 911 or Iraq. The best they ever get is guilt by 6 degrees of association.


Well that sucks balls.
I put a reply inside your quote after each statement, I put mine in bold, but nothing I wrote shows up.

That really sucks the big one. I spent over an hour typing out responses to each ane every paragraph in that quote.

Screw it.

Lets just get down to the basics...
do you think the NEO-CONs = Zionists?
do you consider them Christian Zionists?

Religious Zionism, which is what we are up against, didnt come into play till the early 1900s. You can say its been around for 3,000 years, but thats just the mentality that Israel should have its own nation, which is what Zionism is defined as.
So sure its been around for a very long time, just like the Muslim Religion, but it was not untill recently that the radical fundamentilst version came into being.

You brought up PNAC and its Zionist members, but PNAC came from the New American Citizen Project that was created by our current Drug Czar, or should I say Drug Kingpin, cause thats what the Bushs Drug Czars are.
Look into daddy Bushs Drug Czar during his first term, he had a multi million dollar Vega habit.

They scale back money for prevention and treatment and send the money from the War on Drugs to ensure the CIAs shady drug trade.
Atta is a current day Barry Seal. In all probablity is still alive and still smuggling drugs.

But Im getting ahead of myself.

The Israel Zionists would not orchestrate a 9/11 without the expressed consent of the NEO-CONs.

Im not saying Zionists arent guilty, Im saying they are partners with the NEO-CONs and the dark cabal of the Catholic Church, joined together for common goals.

The Zionists would not be so bold as to risk their cozy relations with the US, they must have had the NEO-CONs approval.

It was just like with the USS Liberty, we wanted it to be sunk and we had Israel do it so that it could be blamed on Egypt. Thats why we didnt want it investigated, because they attack us for us.

Yes Silverstein is guilty and the Sears tower is next, he bought it back in 04.
And yes the FBI had a hand in the 93 bombing of WTC and supplied Salem with a live bomb when they could have just as easily gave a decoy.

As for the Anthrax attack look up Stephen Hatfield and Jerome Hauer. THEY DID IT. After Hatfield was pinned as the prime suspect was when the Russian and Eqyptian were touted as possible suspects. USAMRIID Fort Detrick Maryland and the SAIC. Military grade Anthrax and the place was demolished by guess who? Controlled Demolitions Inc.
Coincidence?

There is no doubt whatsoever that Zionists were heavily involved.
Im not contesting that.
I just dont think they played any bigger of a role than the NEO-CONs did and I think it was authorized by this Black Pope. Who commands the army of Jesus.

Dont you think its very possible that the NEO-CONs and the Jewish Zionists are so cozy because the Jewish Zionists in question have accepted Jesus as their messaiah?
Thats the definition of a Christian Zionist, a Christian that believes the state of Israel is biblical prophecy and that they commonly believe that to fullfill prophecy a significant number of Jews will accept Christ as their personal savior.

So if you believe that the NEO-CONs are Christian Zionists, and the Jewish Zionists are recieivng these massive donations to Israel, wouldnt the common belief be if you want to get in good with the powers that be to accept their dogma?

And to whom do the NEO-CONs or Chrisitan Zionists serve?
The radical section of the Church.

Opus Dei is real, Jesuits are real.
They are in very high places of power in our government, heads of CIA, FBI, members of the Supreme Court etc.
These people take an oath every year that abolishes all other oathes they may have taken.
They are what JFK tried to warn about in a little heard of speech just before he died. He said our enemy today relies on infiltration instead of invasion, he was refering to the CIA and secret socieities like the Jesuits.
He new the score and they killed him for it.
The order was given by the Black Pope which was relayed by 1 Cardinal Spellman from NY. The CIA was used naturally. E Howard Hunt and all that, George Bush Sr as well. He was in Dallas that day and he did meet with Hoover the following day about the incident. Even though he claimed being named the CIA director he had no ties with the CIA. Even though he was a Bone brother to the recruiter and pops was good friends with the CIA creator Allen Dulles. And he did run an offsore oil drilling company, which was a CIA front, called Zapata Oil 30 miles off the coast of Cuba.

So if you are counting Bush, Cheney, Hauer, Hatfield and company as Zionists then I guess I agree with you to a degree, but who do the Zionists answer to?

I think its a simplified answer and that a darker and even more sinister cabal are pulling their strings, but yes Zionists are very guilty.

Do you know why Alex Jones steers clear of the Zionist angle?
Because he is a Jesuit co-adjutor and so is Charlie Sheen and pops Martin.
Zionism can be led back to the Jesuits.
Thats why Jones only gives up certain information and leads us on a wild goose chase for these global elitists.

Just read the Jesuit oath sometime.
And dont be see quick to discount them and their role they play into all of this.
The new version of Vatican Assassins is coming out soon.
The Google Video
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid ... 1643775425

another link...
http://www.thewatcherfiles.com/vatican-ny.html


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But like I said thought about the Illuminati, they were just an illusion created by a Jesuit, Adam Wes.

He created a seperate secret society on behlaf of the Jesuits to infiltrate other secret societies, like the Masons. That was the primary reason for its creation.

But the Illuminati today is all but diminished and has no real power anymore I dont believe. Their power was the Jesuits power to begin with, so if they still have any its really power held by the Catholic Church.


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