Anti-Neocons

Forum members, please feel free to reference this topic when you feel that visitors or other members are being racist, slandering the site with disinformation, or calling the forum "racist".

1) This website does not support any forms of racism. Racism generally brings the site down, allows for easy smearing by antagonistic groups (eg the Zionists) and does not reflect the forum's goal. Making insensitive and excessive racist comments can get you BANNED from the forum. DO NOT harass other forum members. Anti-Semitism is NOT the goal of this website.

2) As we do not believe in racism, we are opposed to Israel's Apartheid policies towards Palestinians living in Occupied Territory, and Zionism on the whole. In other words, ZIONISM IS A FORM OF RACISM, and is not tolerated either. (Also see Rule #6)

a)Do not, I repeat do not, try and lump together Judaism and Zionism as if it is all one thing.That's not going to work here.

3) If you are a Zionist, YOU ARE IN THE WRONG PLACE! If you've come to argue with us, please do it elsewhere, or post it in the hate-mail section. If you don't, we'll just move it to the Hate Mail section for you. If your hatred of Anti-Neocons (and its insistance that Palestinians are in fact, human beings, and deserve human rights, and are justified in revolting against an Occupying power; that foreign banks DO have a great deal of influence on the American economy; that Israel HAS commited attacks against the United States) is phrased in a series of clever ad hominem attacks (eg "You suck, and I hate you. My settlement rocks!"), we'll just get rid of the topic and ban you permanently.

4) This website is also run and frequented by a number of Athiests (although also used by religious folks), and so you may find a great deal of "religious insensitivity," like, say, that God doesn't exist, and religion is a business exploiting your personal insecurities and widespread mindlessness. We have no obligation to spare ANY religion, including Judaism, Christianity, and Islam, as these are philosophies people choose to follow. Religion is not an excuse however to hide behind when it comes to things like Zionism. There is no way around it. Religious institutions cannot be wholly separated or protected by veil of faith. When a religion crosses the line into politics it becomes fair game. If your religion causes you to be racist such as historically many faiths can and have done, such as Hinduism which supported a class system, or elements of Christianity like WASP Klan members, or Zionisim, then saying it is your belief is not going to work. When a religious body Like the Christians in the USA which have a large political lobby and net in billions from their followers with a tax free business institution which enjoys airwaves on national Television and has representation without taxation and there is a clear cut money trail numbering in the tens of BILLIONS annually flowing from the Church bodies to a foreign government (Israel) by being invested in Military industrial complex related corporations, then it is no longer just a religion. It is a massive financial political enterprise which merely uses religion as a theme to collect and consolidate its wealth and maintain its tax free status even while writing God on the money and having its religious text (the Bible) inside all the court rooms.

a) Many may object that that is not real Christianity or goes against what they believe are the teachings of Christ/Moses/Mohammad. Well Many Atheist are inclined to agree with you, but that really doesn't matter, because it does not change the fact that this is what is happening. We on this site do not care what a person's religion or lack of religion is. I don't care if you want to worship a tree in your backyard. So long as that Tree is not connected to a major cash flow involving polictical affairs which is the life blood of an illegal and brutal military occupation for the sake of profit.

b) It is irresponsible for Xtian groups to deny their faith's role or at least the business half of it, in the extremist factions of Born Again types like Bush, bigotry towards Muslims, The condemnation of well over half the world (including myself and about 90% of Japan the place where I live) to Hell. So before getting upset at people take a few minutes to think about how you sound to people who are not of your faith.

c) We acknowledge to work of anti-war Christians, Jews, Muslims, and we all understand that the diffent sects are like night and day, such as the Quakers who are completely non-violence and the Born again Crusader types who would essentially support Manifest Destiny Part II. I personally admire many of the teachings from religious works such as the emphasis on forgiveness in Christianity to stop cycles of violence or the respect for nature and environmental responsibility in nearly all Native American religions, the reverence of sexuality in Heduism, the outlawing of usury in Islam, the Buddhist Golden Mean etc.

d) But ignoring aspects of the political relm that are overlapping in religion is a problem. Zionism is basically a fascist philosophy hiding behind a religion (judaism) with victim status which enjoys free rein to ignore international law by using the charge of anti-Semitism and a massive mainly Christian backed lobby to manipulate congress. It is because religion has such a sacred taboo that this can go on. No one is allowed to talk about it. And people see the attack of the actions of the financial direction of religious bodies as an attack on the faith as a whole and it is that sensitive firework that protects them from criticism and change.

e) Most people on this forum have a religion, either one they made up or spun from whatever they were raised under or a traditional dogma. We are all anti-war and against the Neocon Agenda. If anything religious people should be extra upset at how the Neocons are once again as others have done in history, using their religion to justify crimes against humanity, as was done in the genocide of red-Indians, the crusades, inquisitions, witch burnings, holy wars, (Catholic vs Protestant, Hendu vs Muslim -Kashmir) and so on and so forth.


f) Thus, if you believe something to be "racist" or "anti-Semitic," it may in fact simply be that we are criticizing (specific) religion/religions for their manipulative, destructive, and baseless nature. Religon is whatever religion does. You know after someone is killed you can't go back and say "oh that's not what we meant."

5) While we generally favor free speech in our world, this forum is privately owned, and with particular goals and interests; as such we don't mind policing it. There's plenty of Internet for you to use if you feel that you're not welcome here (or we ban you for bullshittery).

a) We don't generally mind open-discussion or questions, but if you are harassing forum members of defaming the forum itself, we are not obliged to tolerate it. Don't spam and don't link to racist sites even if they are anti-zionist.

b) In the interest of sounding sane and maintaining credibility, this forum is not a place to peddle junk about space alien lizards or secret satanic cults and so forth that you will find on some other anti-war sites. We do believe 911 was an inside job but we rest our theories on the evidence not speculations or claims which cannot be verified or even make logical sense.

I have allowed it for a long time in the interest of free speech to be debated aothough it is largely a waste of time to reject theories about reptilians ect, but it has come to a point where this stuff is clearly disinformation and is spread by neocons and or just plain fools, and it just takes time away from reporting real news and things we have evidence for such as Atta having a double and the Mossad living next door to him and also having a fake moving company that was in the WTC towers prior to 911 which was clearly a controlled demolition.

6) If you want to spout of a theory, back it up with evidence. Was PNAC written by the same people who wrote the Israeli Clean Break Papers? Yes. Has the war in Iraq and Lebanon gone according to this outline? Yes. Things like that which you can SHOW are true are fine. Saying it was all the occultist freemason illuminati, does not work, Not without evidence. Name real people. If you want to talk about "the bankers" then say who they are. In other words don't parrot radio hosts from GCN and videos from Xtian extremists like Ted Pike and Tex Marrs. Do your own research and try talking about the real world.

Sincerely,
Your webmaster and moderators.
Ry

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Judaism, i.e. Talmudic Rabinnical law is official Law of Israel.

http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jso ... ution.html



why are you avoding this FACT Ry?

Wrong.

Israel has no formal constitution, so what neither does England. It is based on Common Law like the UK (from which they derived) that does not equate to using Jewish law or the Talmud. The basic Laws and Proclamation of Independence with rulings of their Supreme Court are the basis of the law there not religious text.

Nice try No Fear. I am sure you didn't bother reading your own source.
I will point out however that Israel is going against the UN general Assembly and their own Proclaimation of Independence by not having a written constitution.



But since when has Israel or the US for that matter paid attention to law or constitutoin when it did not suit them? The US PATRIOT Acts are openly unconstitutional as was Bush signing into the Pan American Union with no congressional oversite or even legislation.

People in Israel are free to shave and wear clothes of more than two fabrics both of which would violate the Laws in the Talmud. As are about 2000 other things. How you got from 'there is no constitution' to they are run 'officially by Talmudic Rabinnical law' is a mistery to me. Sounds like Madthumbsian logic to me. AKA pure BS from the minds of Anti-Semites.

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Basic Human rights are not protected in Israel,

In some sense you are right that it is not declared publicly as an official law.

Where does all this racism comes from then?
Which law connected to Israel is racist?
From which document does this racism come from?

Talmud or "nonformal constitution"?

Ry wrote:


Yes they are free, and which law do majority of them follow?
Result of which law are this pictures



These people ARE following Talmudic Law, their ACTIONS are proving it,
and whole world had opportunity to see it few weeks ago, when they applied it on Lebanon and Gaza.

"the best o the Gentiles deserve to be killed"

Here a small video of these quotes:
http://jewishracism.blogspot.com/2006/0 ... doors.html

as to your accusations of "anti-semitism" you sound as pathetic as your Zionist friends, let's quote from your signature:

Hey I am not saying anything good about Israel. They don't give a damn about human rights and actively they kill children and commit acts of terrorism and false flag opperations ect.

Just saying they are not based on La from the Talmud. Are they a fasicst nation? Yes. Id the Talmud fascist? Yes. But are they following that as their laws? Nope.

You are trying to paint a picture of black and white either Or. Talmud or no constitution. That just doens't work.

I know you are not listening but for anyone else reading this. England has no consitution they are also based on Common Law as are other nations. Does than mean that England is following the Talmud? Of course it doesn't.

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That great reasoning, kudos to you!

As i said their actions are proving what they follow,
- those actions are
1.extermination of non-jews
2.to kill a non-jew is like to kill a beast - remember Rachel Corrie, Mr. Bernstein etc etc?

They do it, and there is no jew in Israel is going to prison for these and similar crimes.
This is exactly what Talmud teaches.

Now let's compare with your reasoning again, to make it understandable for anyone i will exchange the word Talmud with White Supremacists;
And analogically to Israel imagine that England is killing non-whites and let's use this argument

Wait wait wait...Mossad lived next door to Muhammed Atta?

cassanovafrankenstein when you present the argument
it has to agree with basis on which you are building.

Basis of Judaism is Talmud

(except for very small part of Jews which prefer Torah and to which your link is related)

http://jewishracism.blogspot.com/2006/0 ... doors.html

You have to explain quotes like this


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