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Jesus christ on a bbq stick you really are that hard headed and dumb, that video used the same bullshit pictures as LC and what I originally debunked


Let me show you a picture I made just for idiots like you who say 16ft hole.
http://www.rys2sense.com/drop/fortheretards.jpg

The hole with the water spray covering the bottom is DECEPTION. I mean I made videos about that and pictures showing how they deceive you. And you still came back like duh duh der hilt what about dis picture? and showed the exact same one I have been talking about.

OK everyone this is why I called them retarded. I think I can rest my case there, these people are THAT stupid. Don't have sympathy for them.

This is BS

This is what they are covering up


Do you want me to make a sing along song or maybe a popup book. I can ask my 1 year old, ok a 1 year old, which hole is bigger and he can point to the right one. How old are you?

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For a few buck I could help you come up with some effective insults.

Such as, if (insert name of the one to be insulted) brain was shoved up a gnat's ass it would be comparable to putting a BB in a boxcar.

I notice a certain passion about smearing LC in aprticular, how much does that have to do with the recent 'departing' of the cooperation that AJ and MR used to have?



Try to use stock footage, your little made up pics don't really do anything for me. I don't keep any records so I have to use photo's from various sites. You keep harping on the first floor damage., that's quite fine. The question are you open to debate on the actual photos? I'm really not trying to snowball you by claiming things I don't actually believe in. For example the link to this photo sure seems to show columns on the first floor are pushed 'out' rather than 'in' . In would be the direction they went if a wide wing contacted them, out would be the direction they would go if the 'fireball' was the force that moved them.

http://no757.0catch.com/_webimages/07mw8.JPG

(more at http://no757.0catch.com/)

In the photo above the 2ns spool from the left is the best examples of that outward 'lean' of 4 columns. The missing facade in the far upper right could have come detached by the wall being 'bowed' from the inside. Honestly, with your version would the spools be 'in prime condition' if the jet came in as low as you say it did.

Another claim is the genset and how it was moved a bit and how it got that dent/tear along the top. It was on wheels so that puts the top at about 12ft and if it was caused by an engine that puts the very lowest point of your jet at that height and higher. How could it 'dive that quickly' so it all went into the bottom floor. This same site shows the same photo you keep referencing as the deception by LC. This site only pints out that there is no damage (or even a mark) to the area that the tail would have impacted.

http://no757.0catch.com/_webimages/hole2.jpg


The two photos in this post cover the 1st and 2nd floors. To almost clear the genset and the spools how high would the jet have to be in relation to floor #2 and (again) wher eis there some mark from where the tail should have struck the area just above the hole into floor #2?



Taking that route only make it harder for you to reevaluate your own position, after all who wants to admit to knowing less than a 'retard'?



Why no damage from the tail?
The 100ft hole has pillars pointing outside the building, they should be pointing inside if the jet contacted them, they would also be broken at the junction of the 1st and 2nd floor rather than at ground level.



You keep asking that same question.

The pillars are bent in and it should be the ground floor and the second floor which is it.


And there is damage from the tail, that's the big hole in the center.
Man how dense are you. It's like you're not even listening. all I am doing is repeating what I already said in a more simple way.

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http://www.rense.com/general86/impact2_477px_loupe.jpg

This photo shows a column that is still there right in the middle of that hole you say the tail made, which side of the remnant did the tail pass on?

With a one year old you should be used to baby-steps. Here is an example of how that works.

One photo I linked to was a shot from the outside, do the pillars that are visible bend in ore out?

If the pillars on the outside wall were pushed to the outside and your photo shows pillars being pushed inward then would explosives between the two points cause that to happen. Also why not have the top moved the most rather than the bottom, the craft still had some height to clear the genset so the bulk of the mass should have been along the roof of the 1st floor and/or the bottom of the 2nd floor.

When was the photo you posted taken? It seems unlikely it was taken prior to any collapse so is it from a portion that did not fail but still suffered damage and the light area is where the building fell into a rubble pile?

How tall was the hole in the 2nd floor from the ground? From the dimensions given the top of the tail would have been higher than the hole (top of the 2nd floor).

Try covering just those few points, if you also have time this is from back a few pages. One animation (artistic rather than a physics model) has a portion of one light-post on the starboard side enter the jet engine causing it to smoke. Would that not also mean a damaged engine that may have experienced a reduction in thrust, if that happened the control of the craft would have been affected to the point the starboard wing would drop in height making it even more unlikely that wing was the high one when clipping the top of the genset?

Its not right in the middle and how about this genius maybe just maybe the suspended aluminum tail split around the reinforced grounded to a building steel beam. Steel does tend to be more dense that aluminum, on planet earth. And buildings are heavier than plane tails.

face palm

The fuselage is about 13 feet, the tail minus that is about 31 feet, the pentagon is 77.5 feet tall. That puts the tail in the second floor right where the big 18 foot hole was. Most of the weight of the plane is in the belly where the cargo goes. The tip of the tail isn't going to do shit. Considering the generator that was clipped in front of the building the plane was nearly on the ground, the Boeing 757 plane fits perfectly in the 30 meter hole at the base. That and the 757 plane parts inside the building and all the dead people. And no not all the cops and firemen are lying and no all the family members of the people on the plane are not just pretending they are dead.

Look at the cops and firemen's reports at the WTC they say bombs, explosions etc they're very open about it. But no one says there was no plane not there and not in DC.

Listen you've been lied to. It's PROPAGANDA. I knew I'd be smacking a hornets nest by stating the obvious about the plane but someone had to do it. Doesn't it bother you how many sights tried to use that picture of a hole with spray covering the bottom and acting like that was it? Doesn't that make you question them?

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the doctored photo you have constructed is blacked out inside the claimed open hole and offers no detail other than you claiming it is an open span blackhole...how does this help?... seeing as it`s fake..


here`s a quote i find very interesting,,,.if you want to cover some talking points and edited bits of information, this is the one that sticks out for me....the link ry references tries to debunk the claim of a military plane by claiming the air traffic controllers saying "You don't fly a 757 in that manner. It's unsafe." means they were really talking about a 757 being able to hit the pentagon....but the full transcript says the plane they tracked and referenced in ry`s link actually flew over the pentagon and they knew it was a military plane....then they lost contact by radar and were told soon after that the pentagon was hit....also mentions the countdown cheney was getting...that being the plane that flew over the pentagon...all very interesting stuff...

before anyone jumps in, it is the air traffic controllers from dulles airport claiming a fly over, not me...but i find it and the admitted c-130 interesting.

"At the Dulles tower, O'Brien saw the TV pictures from New York and headed back to her post to help other planes quickly land. "We started moving the planes as quickly as we could," she says. "Then I noticed the aircraft. It was an unidentified plane to the southwest of Dulles, moving at a very high rate of speed ... I had literally a blip and nothing more." O'Brien asked the controller sitting next to her, Tom Howell, if he saw it too. "I said, 'Oh my God, it looks like he's headed to the White House,'" recalls Howell. "I was yelling ... 'We've got a target headed right for the White House!'" At a speed of about 500 miles an hour, the plane was headed straight for what is known as P-56, protected air space 56, which covers the White House and the Capitol. "The speed, the maneuverability, the way that he turned, we all thought in the radar room, all of us experienced air traffic controllers, that that was a military plane," says O'Brien. "You don't fly a 757 in that manner. It's unsafe." The plane was between 12 and 14 miles away, says O'Brien, "and it was just a countdown. Ten miles west. Nine miles west ... Our supervisor picked up our line to the White House and started relaying to them the information, [that] we have an unidentified very fast-moving aircraft inbound toward your vicinity, 8 miles west." Vice President Cheney was rushed to a special basement bunker. White House staff members were told to run away from the building. "And it went six, five, four. And I had it in my mouth to say, three, and all of a sudden the plane turned away. In the room, it was almost a sense of relief. This must be a fighter. This must be one of our guys sent in, scrambled to patrol our capital, and to protect our president, and we sat back in our chairs and breathed for just a second," says O'Brien. But the plane continued to turn right until it had made a 360-degree maneuver. "We lost radar contact with that aircraft. And we waited. And we waited. And your heart is just beating out of your chest waiting to hear what's happened," says O'Brien. "And then the Washington National [Airport] controllers came over our speakers in our room and said, 'Dulles, hold all of our inbound traffic. The Pentagon's been hit.'"

nice cut and paste blkdog

You guys are really desperate to nitpick at what selective eye witness said about a Boeing obviously you dont fly them that way, because you can crash unless the point is to crash it and further more if you actually bothered reading everything I have written from day one, I don't buy into the hijacker narrative bullshit and so it doesn't matter how you fly the plane when they were not flying the plane, the plane was guided in same as wtc. That would be part C on the video. The plane is more than able to fly into a 900 by 77 foot target. That it took a looping turn at all rather than just flying into the building straight shows it was not a missile. But there is no need to guess because there are parts of the plane in the fucking building. All the people on it are dead.

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this is the link you supplied that i referenced..it implies that the air traffic controllers watched a 757 being flown unsafely into the pentagon and only thought it was a military plane....which the full text refutes...


http://911research.wtc7.net/talks/nopla ... uvers.html