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 Post subject: A plane hit the pentagon
 Post Posted: Sun Dec 19, 2010 11:52 pm 
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Only thing killing 911 truth are misinformed 911 truthers

This is in light of Jesse Ventura going down the no-planer path. And we all know why, because a certain megaphone con-man has his ear.

There is so much bullshit and disinformation about 911. It is the 911 kook movement that is causing stagnation in growth not the government. It's time to cut them away. Cut the cancer off of us. If we want more rational reasonable people to listen we have to cut away the loud mouth crazies that act like the face of the movement. I can do it. But I am going to need your help in the near future. Charlatans like Alex Jones and his parrots need to shut up. It is hard to reason with people who go from zero to emotional in 1 second. It's the idiots who are also the most arrogant with new information. The ones saying sheeple all the time are often themselves only a half step away from being a sheep. We need 911 clarity and it needs to be based on the actual and grounded information not wild speculation and secret societies etc. We have the info. I need a medium to present it. And I will need some help as common share sites are censoring everything. I will need people to break this disinformation saturation, this 911 drag net of endless paths to no where must die. ISRAEL is key to understanding 911 and I don't mean the trite dancing Israelis story. It is so much deeper than that but it is very hard to grab people's attention without dozens of parrots polluting the well.

Step one is going to be my next video dealing with plane that hit the pentagon and a plane DID hit the pentagon. I've always been amazed at how the no planers's logic contradicts itself and like any good cult asserts that if claim A is doubt-able then claim B must be true even when claim B has no evidence or even sense to it.

1 They equate lacking evidence for a plane to be evidence for a missile rather than evidence for a missile being the evidence for a missile.

2 explaining how the plane stopped, what happened to the people on it, what people in VA saw, what Cheney ordered to ignore, where the flight 77 really went, and anything to do with the whole picture, just get ad hoc and ad hoc drifting further and further down into jones town/loose change kool aid ville.

3 The basis of the mythology rest one 3 primary so called arguments
a) the size of the holes
b) the incompetence of the pilot to do such a maneuver
c) the confiscation of videos of the event by the pentagon
d) the six walls the plane bust through to get through the rings

Don't spazz out yet. Believe me I have heard it. I'm not even going to waste my time writing as I know I have to put this in video form or I might as well be talking to myself. I am just saying to stay tuned and hopefully those who have been so passionate about this topic will be big enough to STFU and admit to themselves that they have been parroting other people's music videos and "research" but they really don't know squat about 911 and shouting "inside job" or saying some vague term like "the government" or "they" or "the NWO/illuminati/corporations/etc" did it, doesn't explain a thing. So please step aside because your panic style sloganeering and loud mouth cult like mentality is actually Hurting 911 truth.

As much as no planer's rant they seldom listen to rebuttals because they believe the rehtoric from the movies they saw is infallible. I will address each idiot point made by no planers in the hope that at lease a portion of them will finally give it a rest once their questions have been addressed. I feel confident in this because it all rest not on evidence for a missile but on lack of understanding about the plane or even why the pentagon was a target and what was accomplished.

Stay tuned.... sigh I really hate having to baby people, but A video is on the way. It's a necessary requirement I supposed to fight disinfo that was highly spread by video we have to also use the same medium to reach more people.

I also have a lot to say about the loose change goobers who when out of their way to plant disinformation. Every photo of the pentagon they used was hiding the first floor and showed only the second floor or the hole in ring E. That is intentional, not accidental. That's not just stupidity, it's planned. At best they were useful idiots spoon fed disinfo, but considering the heavy and quick promotion and the connections with jonestown, it was probably more sinister.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=74qTz0oIdtI

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 Post subject: Re: A plane hit the pentagon
 Post Posted: Mon Dec 20, 2010 1:02 am 
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i'm interested to see what you've come up with. I live in northern virginia a few minutes drive from the pentagon and have always wondered what happened since I heard all types of things from people around, but nothing concrete. i await the video.

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 Post Posted: Mon Dec 20, 2010 1:03 am 
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A couple points.....

While I do agree that "babying" people by having to produce a video is pretty lame, especially considering the rewards involved in the details of a written work, give us a little more credit. :D

Has anyone connected the web of Daniel Lewin to anything worth noting? (Granted this isnt a Flight 77 passenger - WTC - Flight 11) With a pen, paper, Google, and 30 minutes, I filled up a piece of paper with a web of different connections. That being said, some of the more notable connections are 3 or 4 degrees away from DL. I can get deeper into this if it hasnt been touched upon, but going toward year 10, Im kind of finding it hard to believe someone hasnt in fact already begun to delve deeper.

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Per Ry's request, Im posting a couple comments I made via PM to him:

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I want to create a voice for myself. Whether its publicly or via the internet, I just feel the need to do more than read and research the hell out of everything for my own knowledge. But unless I surround myself with like-minded individuals 24/7, which seems a bit redundant and pointless, my thoughts and ideas are scoffed at. i.e. 9/11, Wikilies, Israel, etc. I can run around all I want posting shit on Facebook that I hope my friends will pay attention to, but I feel like it is worthless.

What are some ways to become part of the actual movement(s), instead of just passively educating myself?


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Excellent. I look forward to the video, and translating into different languages should help a lot. And I agree about the loudmouths. A few years ago, when I first approached the "truth" movement, I was turned off because of those people that just wanted to yell and scream.

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DL's squad was part of a false flag in past involving a hijacked airliner. I imagine he, the so called Atta, and so called Omari were all Israeli agents. I doubt any of them actually got on the plane, just had seats on it. And seats were all next to one another.

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 Post subject: Re: A plane hit the pentagon
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Any information that has clout is good information, i am tired of listening to pretenders spreading fear and lame logic about 911,the more i am learning about the propagnada machine the more i am finding out alot of the 911 theroy is a load,whatever you come out with should be interesting and actually has some credibilty to it.

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There has been a consorted effort to claim there weren't any planes at all they even tried saying it was blue screen in NY or that it was military planes with missiles or pod etc. The pentagon myth however is what stuck and these type of theories are what have the loudest voices and what has been used to discredit 911 real truth and paint us all like conspiracy nuts akin to saying aliens built the pyramids or the moon landing was faked.

Hunt the Boeing and Pentagon strike started it along with the "annoymously leaked" 5 frames of something hitting the pentagon but what really got it to take off were the Juberts from Loose Change who at first I thought were just simply dumb/wrong but now I see that at best they are useful idiots fed bogus information and possibly worse, paid co-intel pro. Because they went out of their way to promote the missile hit the pentagon myth. I still have the feeling they are just dumb parrots because they had so many basic factual mistakes in their films and none of them are educated. That Jonestown promoted the filth was fitting with his line on 911, focus all the time on the physics of the event and ignore the before after and during as to who did it and anything and everything about Israel.

It's not just the missile vs plane thing, it's a number of things. There such an effort to connect 911 conspiracies to classic BS conspiracies about everything form ancient orders/secret societies to aliens. The other avenue the propaganda takes is to just create a generic term like "the nwo" or criminal elements etc which is akin to saying "the bad guys" and tells nothing of about who did anything or how or why, it doesn't even answer the what question, its only partly claims "what not" and leave that there hanging with lose ends.

I can't even get my films to stay on youtube much less have an audience with AJ and co and my films are grounded, name names of real people real documents, and don't rely on speculation or faith in conspiratorial history. 911 is quite simple when you remove all the fluff, hype, and disinformation. It's quite simple to connect the dots to the wars, the money, the anthrax, the media it all goes to the same place.

The fact that any of us much less all of us have heard the no planes theory shows what a push it must have had because nothing that ridiculous would last on it's own. These things spread virally even before myspace facebook etc.

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