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adam1
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Post subject: Re: It's the Zionists not "the Jews" Posted: Sat May 09, 2009 4:46 pm |
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To say that ethno-centric thinking comes from Judaism is to suggest that terrorist thinking comes from Islam. I will not accept that. Judaism, like Christianity, has changed into something other than its original form. To look for where the blame lies you must look at what changed Judaism. Orgininally it was tribalism and ethno-centricism, then later came Zionism. Atheism came along and began to take Judaism as a religion away from Jewish identity but not all the bad shit that came before. So if you want to critisize the tenets of Jewish identity then go right ahead but Ry is critisizing Zionism. It is something we can all see and something we can all agree on. Ry ultimately blames religion for the shit that goes down in the world in general, and I'm at a disagreement with some of his points on that. But neither argument says that Jews are the problem.
One should never be against the actors, because that leads to prejudice. One should be against the acts... that leads to justice.
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Ry
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Post subject: Re: It's the Zionists not "the Jews" Posted: Sat May 23, 2009 11:18 am |
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No Stewie it's not just that the word turns people off. It's that you're wrong.
It's not "THE JEWS" it's the Zionist many of whom are Jewish. Just like in Nazi Germany, it wasn't "THE WHITES" it was the Nazis, most of whom were white, but think of all the whites who were not Nazis namely France, the UK, Canada, Half of Germany, Australia, ect
You can't really be that stupid unless you're just blinded by prejudice. Don't you know how group orders go? Nearly all Zionist are Jews/Chrtistian but nearly all Jew/christians are not Zionist. Nearly all Nazis were white. But nearly al white were not nazis.
What is so hard about saying the Zionist run the media, or those with overlappong interest with Zionist run the media? Why so insistent to say "the jews" Prejudice that is why.
It's not just more productive to say Zionist than "the jews" it's also more accurate. Blaming a whole category of people based on bloodlines instead of the individuals involves in a path to no where and it's just wrong.
One of my neighbors is Jewish, he's also an anti-Zioinst and doesn't run any media, he's a commercial fishermen. Now plenty of Zionists don't own media, but they support the media because the media is Zionist, and that means in ideology and reporting not it's physical make up. In our case it is all of the above because the media is physically made of Zionist, and has pro-Zionist reporting and omitting.
It is not Jewish. Our media is heavily pro-Christian. They have to protect Judaism to an extent because Christianity depends on it. If you can't figure that out just turn on a TV at Christmas time. The Muslims, Atheist and Jews can tell you that there certainly is a lot a Christianity on TV. (as it should be because that's the majority of the nation). You won't find an atheist's perspective unless it's on cable. Only very recently has that been creeping into television, with shows like House, or actually I can't think of any others.
And you can quote nasty things from scripture all day it doesn't matter. I agree (as an atheist) religious texts (any of them) are fucking retarded and immoral. But that's a totally separate issue.
_________________ This site is against war, Zionism, (or any other form of racism), profiteering, and all forms of government corruption, mass media deception, and cover ups. This is not a site to flail on about space aliens-illuminati-masonic-deathcult-jewish-catholic-lizard-lucifarian-jesuit-queen-barvarian-etc bull hockey. Take that junk somewhere else. My Twitter "It doesn't matter who we are underneath. It is what we do that defines us." Batman Google version of War by Deception Pass HR 1207 and S604 audit the Fed
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Irie Dave
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Post subject: Re: It's the Zionists not "the Jews" Posted: Sat May 23, 2009 9:54 pm |
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The media's not controlled by Christians it's controlled by Jews. Because most Americans are Christian they put that kind of programming on it's called marketing. The Christian religion has it's own bloody history but it's been taken over and Judaized and that's where the support for Israel comes from because in the actual bible it says that the Jews are of the devil and that Jerusalem will be 'Mystery Babylon' or the anti-christ kingdom. The New Testament of Christianity is not in support of Judaism, the Jews killed Jesus according to the Bible.
_________________ "A higher level of cannabinoid activity in the human biochemical distribution in the biosphere may be necessary to prevent human extinction" - Dr. Robert Melamede, PhD
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Post subject: Re: It's the Zionists not "the Jews" Posted: Sun May 24, 2009 12:45 am |
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The US has always been pretty fucking anti-communist, helped create the third world and helped keep it that way. They also run the CFR it's former president was Cheney. They backed the Russian Oligarchs and sell more psychotropic than the rest of the world. It's not "the jews" it's America. America is Zionist because its profitable for the MIC. When it suited them the US back Muslims in Pakistan and Afghanistan to fight the Russians and to push an arms race with India. They don't give a shit who all is what they just want to maintain conflicts. They'd even back Tibet against China, and they back Taiwan. It's all about balancing power.
And its not christian to be marketable its christian because its christian. The US didn't kill the Indian for the Jews. They don't Take Hawaii for the Jews. They didn't have a civil war for Jews, they didn't invade Honduras, Grenada, Panama, Guatemala, Puerto Rico, Mexico, the Philippines, Korea, Nicaragua, Hati, Cuba, Vietnam, Cambodia and Laos, Bosnia, Afghanistan etc for the Jews. They did it because of imperialism, the nation is and always has been about military dominance for economic monetary interest. The rational changes, when it's a christian nation they say they are going after drug lords, when its anything else then it's kill a commie for Christ or crusade against islamo fascism. The Army is made up of Christians, and that's who is doing the actual killing. Not the Jews.
If you really think "the jews" are so powerful and masters of puppets they would be completely powerless with out idiot Christians to send in as cannon fodder.
The US supports Israel for the same reason they support Georgia. Regional balance, divide and conquer. Zionist still have a huge influence. The wars in Lebanon, Libya, Iraq (twice) plus Israel's war with Egypt, Palestine and Lebanon, have all been for the Zionist with full US support. But it's not the tail wagging the dog. It's the dog allowing the tail to smack down those Muslim nations that don't have central banks and whose leaders the US doesn't yet control.
_________________ This site is against war, Zionism, (or any other form of racism), profiteering, and all forms of government corruption, mass media deception, and cover ups. This is not a site to flail on about space aliens-illuminati-masonic-deathcult-jewish-catholic-lizard-lucifarian-jesuit-queen-barvarian-etc bull hockey. Take that junk somewhere else. My Twitter "It doesn't matter who we are underneath. It is what we do that defines us." Batman Google version of War by Deception Pass HR 1207 and S604 audit the Fed
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Post subject: Re: It's the Zionists not "the Jews" Posted: Sun May 24, 2009 1:13 am |
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Any imperialism for the IMF/World Bank is 'the Jews' cause that's who runs them. But you're right that without their cannon fodder they'd be nothing. But honestly I think that has as much or more to do with white supremacism than Christianity. But really one can't accurately understate the influence and power of Jews in this system, it's a losing battle to try to do so. I just make the caveat that not all Jews are involved just like not all white people were for slavery.
_________________ "A higher level of cannabinoid activity in the human biochemical distribution in the biosphere may be necessary to prevent human extinction" - Dr. Robert Melamede, PhD
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Post subject: Re: It's the Zionists not "the Jews" Posted: Sun May 24, 2009 6:50 am |
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The US was killing Indians before any of these institutions were created, and we're talking about million of people killed here. As were 80% of those wars, we didn't invade Korea, Vietnam, Grenada, etc for Israel or Jewish interests, come on I of all guys will say it when the US is doing bullshit for Israel, but you can't just blame everything on that. America is just fucked up all on it's own and always has been. And the reason the IMF does what it does benefits America and American corporations not "the Jews." And the CIA and NGO who make the IMF able to do what it does isn't "the jews" either it's regular white christian Americans mostly and it's done for good old greed.
And the first 2 central banks were created by Hamiltonians without any Jews. You're free mason president ( a bunch of atheists and deist) fought hard against it, but there weren't enough of them. It doesn't matter what all ethnicity is sitting in there they act the same way, it's imperialism. Currently its Zionist, it's always been religious extremist only now the Christian bigots have found an ally in Jewish bigots.
Back in the day the churches were the banks. And that is how wars were financed and how they were justified and why they were fought.
It's religion. It's a business and it's in the business of killing converting and collecting. That is what it does.
(an no the churches were not controlled by "the jews" [as they are not they are controlled by Israel one of their own creations] they were controlled by Christians [but not THE christians] who are really only one messiah away from being Jewish anyway. Same fucked up philosophy and retard psychologically damaging fairytale)
_________________ This site is against war, Zionism, (or any other form of racism), profiteering, and all forms of government corruption, mass media deception, and cover ups. This is not a site to flail on about space aliens-illuminati-masonic-deathcult-jewish-catholic-lizard-lucifarian-jesuit-queen-barvarian-etc bull hockey. Take that junk somewhere else. My Twitter "It doesn't matter who we are underneath. It is what we do that defines us." Batman Google version of War by Deception Pass HR 1207 and S604 audit the Fed
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Post subject: Re: It's the Zionists not "the Jews" Posted: Sun May 24, 2009 10:18 am |
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It's not the same religion, the Talmud is hands down the most fucked up of all the religious texts, though they all contain bad stuff. Some of what you're saying about the U.S. and imperialism is true but you leave out the long history of the Jews and how they've been kicked out of tons of countries. All the historical quotes from famous people talking about the shit they did. They've been behind the scenes in a lot of shit they don't get credit for either, like running the African slave trade. That's one of the biggest atroscities of all time. Estimated 90+ million died just on the slave ships alone. Of course the racist Southerners bought them up as well and ran a lot of the plantations. But an estimated 75 percent of Jews in America owned slaves while only 34 percent of whites did. Still bad that any did but no one knows about that.
I guess we agree for the most part, I don't disagree with what you about religion in general and America's history. I just think you discount the Jewish role in things to too much of an extent sometimes, possibly in fear of coming off racist. But the facts are just the facts when it comes to who runs banking & the media and what not, they fucking admit it anyway at least on the media aspect. Look up what Ben Stein had to say about it. And there is a strong Freemasonic element behind the power structure today as well, go watch a documentary called Thunder Over Zion on Google Video. It's by Texe Marrs who is a Christian but it doesn't matter, what he shows in the video is all this historical evidence that the Rothschilds were and are Freemasons and all the Masonic symbolism in the architecture in Israel. I don't know that all Freemasons are bad, actually I know that a lot of cops are Masons though so I'd be inclined to suspect that it is a bad organization in general.
_________________ "A higher level of cannabinoid activity in the human biochemical distribution in the biosphere may be necessary to prevent human extinction" - Dr. Robert Melamede, PhD
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Post subject: Re: It's the Zionists not "the Jews" Posted: Tue Oct 26, 2010 2:12 am |
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_________________ This site is against war, Zionism, (or any other form of racism), profiteering, and all forms of government corruption, mass media deception, and cover ups. This is not a site to flail on about space aliens-illuminati-masonic-deathcult-jewish-catholic-lizard-lucifarian-jesuit-queen-barvarian-etc bull hockey. Take that junk somewhere else. My Twitter "It doesn't matter who we are underneath. It is what we do that defines us." Batman Google version of War by Deception Pass HR 1207 and S604 audit the Fed
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