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 Post subject: Footage of Israeli terrorists getting a beat down.
 Post Posted: Mon May 31, 2010 6:30 pm 
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AP4emZXE37o



Watch the armed IDF land on the boat freely and run over kicking at a group of people. Also their gas mask were on showing they aimed to tear gas everyone. They did in fact hit an American woman in the face with a gas canister and she lost an eye. The people fought back as was their right when clearly Israel was there to attack them sending commandos in the night to board their ship with tear gas and automatic weapons. These ships were sailing for weeks and Israel had a long time to decide what to do and they chose to use a night air raid.


This is a soundless IDF propaganda video. The lines were already dropped on the boat. These idiots approached a night raid in two noisy helicopters. They need to watch less TV and read up about how military operations actually work. Of course, as Israel's stint in Lebanon shows, Israel doesn't know how to fight people above the grade of children throwing rocks. So they don't know what to do when grown men can fight back in close quarters. Naturally they just started shooting people. They shouldn't have boarded the ship, but if they were it should have been with a lot more people and all at once. These people are trying to bring food and medical supplies to people who Israel is starving to death. They are already angry. Sending military units in at them one at a time was just asking for it.

Clearly the people on the humanitarian aid ship were all huddled to the sides. The first Israeli that they show lands on the boat runs directly at the group kicking at one of them who pulled on his cord. That starts the fight and then they started to hit them with plastic chairs and wood or iron bars. I had to just laugh at the IDF terrorist being tossed off the boat.

But you know what it doesn't matter. The crew had a right to defend itself. And Israel sent armed commandos in the middle of the night to raid the ship. That in itself is an act of aggression. Once the man kick a member in the group the fight started, but really it started as soon as a military boarded a ship in international waters. If the crew was going to start the fight they would have had weapons. The aid crew had no guns, and no sophisticated melee weapons. There was even a baby on board. They simply fought back with what they had against Israeli terrorists.

here is another angle.


I find it funny that the IDF releases these in English and how it edited this video to jump around even though it was less a minute 5 seconds long.

They are actually crying about their terrorists being attacked by desperate people they were attempting to raid from US paid for helicopters. Oh look a chair. Who cares about makeshift weapons? The Israelis were raiding with fully armed commandos. Apparently they can't take one 6 people at a time or even one. The first guy is taken out by one unarmed man who rushes him and then another helps toss him off the first level. These well trained Israeli military men, the elite armored commandos, get their asses handed to them by run of the mill humanitarian workers on a boat at first just using their fists.

Israel is as weak as it is immoral. This footage is just something to laugh at and expose them. No one is going to except that it is "defense" to shoot people even if they are attacking you when the whole reason they are attacking you is because you are invading them. Where have we seen that before? It mirrors the larger situation where Israel invades Palestine intent on destroying property and stealing and murdering. When the Palestinians fight back Israel claims to be "defending" itself from them and shoots the kids throwing rock who didn't want their homes demolished.

What a bunch of Lunatics the Israelis are. There own IDF put this footage out. They actually think it helps their case? These bastards raided a peaceful humanitarian ship that was trying to break a blockade on Gaza that is illegal anyway. It doesn't matter how hard the passengers fought back or what they used. Israel threw the first punch by attempting to invade their ship. They easily could have contained them at port or negotiated with them on the ground cameras rolling. No their hubris wouldn't allow it. And because they killed Turks a NATO member the Israelis are in hot water. Killing 20 people is usually no big deal for Israel and doesn't get any press. However Israel can not white wash the press in Turkey and all the other nations involved in an international mission doing what governments are too chicken to do.

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 Post subject: Re: Footage of Israeli terrorists getting a beat down.
 Post Posted: Mon May 31, 2010 7:26 pm 
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I was sent this today by someone arguing for Israel's side.

It's the international law applicable to armed conflicts at sea.
http://www.icrc.org/ihl.nsf/385ec082b50 ... 1f002d49ce





Here are the relevant paragraphs concerning civilian vessels being attacked:

SECTION V : NEUTRAL MERCHANT VESSELS AND CIVIL AIRCRAFT

Neutral merchant vessels

67. Merchant vessels flying the flag of neutral States may not be attacked unless they:

(a) are believed on reasonable grounds to be carrying contraband or breaching a blockade, and after prior warning they intentionally and clearly refuse to stop, or intentionally and clearly resist visit, search or capture;
(b) engage in belligerent acts on behalf of the enemy;
(c) act as auxiliaries to the enemy s armed forces;
(d) are incorporated into or assist the enemy s intelligence system;
(e) sail under convoy of enemy warships or military aircraft; or
(f) otherwise make an effective contribution to the enemy s military action, e.g., by carrying military materials, and it is not feasible for the attacking forces to first place passengers and crew in a place of safety. Unless circumstances do not permit, they are to be given a warning, so that they can re-route, off-load, or take other precautions.

68. Any attack on these vessels is subject to the basic rules in paragraphs 38-46.

69. The mere fact that a neutral merchant vessel is armed provides no grounds for attacking it.






Okay, here is 38 - 46:

PART III : BASIC RULES AND TARGET DISCRIMINATION

SECTION I : BASIC RULES

38. In any armed conflict the right of the parties to the conflict to choose methods or means of warfare is not unlimited.

39. Parties to the conflict shall at all times distinguish between civilians or other protected persons and combatants and between civilian or exempt objects and military objectives.

40. In so far as objects are concerned, military objectives are limited to those objects which by their nature, location, purpose or use make an effective contribution to military action and whose total or partial destruction, capture or neutralization, in the circumstances ruling at the time, offers a definite military advantage.

41. Attacks shall be limited strictly to military objectives. Merchant vessels and civil aircraft are civilian objects unless they are military objectives in accordance with the principles and rules set forth in this document.

42. In addition to any specific prohibitions binding upon the parties to a conflict, it is forbidden to employ methods or means of warfare which:

(a) are of a nature to cause superfluous injury or unnecessary suffering; or
(b) are indiscriminate, in that:
(i) they are not, or cannot be, directed against a specific military objective; or
(ii) their effects cannot be limited as required by international law as reflected in this document.

43. It is prohibited to order that there shall be no survivors, to threaten an adversary therewith or to conduct hostilities on this basis.

44. Methods and means of warfare should be employed with due regard for the natural environment taking into account the relevant rules of international law. Damage to or destruction of the natural environment not justified by military necessity and carried out wantonly is prohibited.

45. Surface ships, submarines and aircraft are bound by the same principles and rules.


It doesn't seem to mention international waters nor domestic waters, but it does mention having justification attacking if that ship is intent in breaching a blockade.

So here's the sticking point: Israel's blockade - LEGAL?

The law as the public knows it seems to be written by the media - the MSM, regardless of what the UN says.


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 Post subject: Re: Footage of Israeli terrorists getting a beat down.
 Post Posted: Mon May 31, 2010 7:32 pm 
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Israel won't even let 81 year old professors enter the country to TALK about the things Israel does wrong. Here we have internationals doing the RIGHT thing giving starving people food, and Israel the party responsible for WHY the Gazans need aid to begin with is the aggressor here raided a ship with armed men. They easily could have handled this at port. It's not illegal to bring Gaza aid . It's illegal to occupy Palestine and illegal to deny Gaza aid. Ignoring a law that is already breaking a law is not illegal. If I try to free slaves when slavery is already illegal you can't arrest me for trying to set your slave free much less for bringing him water because slavery is already illegal. Fuck Israel.

I love the techniqual a, b, c, d, e, f, crap in that post. What a tard. And how shylock of him to try to appeal to some technical law a law only by the apartheid state of Israel no more moral or internationally legal than a law from the nazis or orders from nazis.

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 Post subject: Re: Footage of Israeli terrorists getting a beat down.
 Post Posted: Tue Jun 01, 2010 1:00 pm 
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Your wayyy off on religion Ry, but your rants on Israel are fucking awesome.

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 Post subject: Re: Footage of Israeli terrorists getting a beat down.
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Wonderful... Good to see those Israeli fuckers getting a beat down for a change. The were boarded at sea in international waters by people known for their barbarity and those who caused the crisis in the first place. I would still be defending the protesters if they slashed those soldier's throats.


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 Post subject: Re: Footage of Israeli terrorists getting a beat down.
 Post Posted: Wed Jun 02, 2010 3:35 am 
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Watched it again, hope those fuckers got their teeth knocked in. I'd like to see this video set to mexican mariachi music. A pinata party at sea! :lol:


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 Post subject: Re: Footage of Israeli terrorists getting a beat down.
 Post Posted: Wed Jun 02, 2010 2:11 pm 
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What exactly is offense then? I mean when you attack people that's offense. It s not defense when you attack people and they fight back, THEY are defending you are still attacking.

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