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The HOLOCAUST for Dummies

1. In 1939, there were nearly 15,700,000 Jews in the world. (1) After the Second World War that number had risen to over 18,000,000 Jews. (2) What this means is that of the 15,000,000 original Jews on the planet, 6,000,000 were gassed, leaving only some 9,000,000-plus. Then, the world Jewish population rebounded and doubled to over 18,000,000 in less than nine years—an astronomical feat, which astounded biologists and baby doctors everywhere!

2. From the Beginning, there was the SIX MILLION, of which 4,000,000 were gassed at Auschwitz. Then, in 1990 it was discovered that only 1.5 million were gassed at Auschwitz, a difference of 2.5 million less. But somehow the magical SIX MILLION remained, even though no instant replacement was ever found. YHWH moves in mysterious ways!

3. At the same time, the director of the Auschwitz State Museum Dr. Franciszek Piper, announced that the so-called gas chamber there had been fabricated by the Soviets AFTER the war!

4. But there's more. The International Red Cross reported that less than 300,000 internees of all nationalities in the German camps died of all causes, including old age. (3) And of these, barely more than half were Jews. Most of these died in several typhoid epidemics caused by wartime conditions, which claimed many lives—including those of doctors, nurses and camp administrative personnel!

5. But even these deaths were too much for the German authorities. On December 8, 1942, Heinrich Himmler, chief commandant of all detention facilities, issued an order stating categorically: "The death rate in the camps must be reduced at all costs."

6. In all of German-occupied Europe there were 2.4 million Jews. After the war, 3.8 million Jews claimed "survivor" benefits from the German government. Tragically, the remaining 6 million were lost.

7. It was a miracle. According to The New York Times of Sunday, January 4, 1987, celebrated survivor Elie Wiesel recalled "the day the Soviets arrived at Auschwitz." Then, in a speech to the National Press Club in Washington D.C., reported by the Jewish Telegraph Agency on April 11, 1983, he had a different recollection. (4) He noted that he was "one of the survivors liberated at Dachau by the U.S. Army" on April 15, 1945—and thus became the only prisoner of war to hold the distinction of being liberated from two different camps in World War II!

8. Not to be outdone by The Weasel, famous "Nazi-hunter" Simon Wiesenthal died serenely at age 96, knowing that, according to BBC News, he had survived 12—count 'em!—Nazi "death camps."

9. In 1948 a story appeared about a hapless Jewish girl who was done in by the Nazis. It was written with a ballpoint pen, something that did not appear on the market until after the war. It was called— "The Diary of Anne Frank"!

10. So where did this SIX MILLION business start? For that we must go back to one Ilya Ehrenburg, (5) chief Soviet propagandist during the Second World War and later on to die in Israel, who coined the mystic number on Dec. 22, 1944—BEFORE tens of thousands of Jewish internees, given the choice of staying to be "liberated" by the Communists or going with their German captors, did not hesitate to choose the latter option!

Easily explained...the magic Jeezuz dude made a big fat Jewlicious miracle happen.

Spliced in some rabbit DNA...

Bashing the topic, bash the messenger, but never bashing the message.... that's what someone does who just doesn't know how to defend their position or just doesn't know what they are talking about. They decided what they want to believe or need to believe but don't really know why and have no reason to other than it would be more PC to do so.

The US liberty attack was June 8th. I thought I would post something about the Holocaust as well. It had become an industry to profit from. And yet the claims made stand on nothing.

There is a huge difference between 1.5 million and 4 million. And when I was a student we all read Anne Frank in school and were taught that it was real and written by Jewish woman in the war. Well that was all bullshit.

If there is really current evidence to continue saying 6 million died, when the Red Cross and the Holocaust Museum itself both deny this. Then just show it. 6 million is said by the same people who believe in lampshades and soap. It's not a fact, it's post war propaganda. WWII wasn't about saving the Jews anymore than the Civil War was about freeing slaves. Nobody gave a damn about the Jews. Christians in the US were every bit as prejudice as anyone else. American banks just wanted larger control and a world government. They had to take out a threat to the current standing empires. The rationalization about saving Jews is about as sincere as the rationalization of "liberating the Kurds" in Iraq. No one gave a shit about the Kurds. They just hate A-rabs in general because they think we were collectively involved in 911.

I'm not prejudice, I'm just doubtful of the crap we're fed in history. They've lied about nearly every aspect of the wars we've had while I have been alive. So I see no reason to trust them about past wars. Where is the evidence? Where did these numbers come from? No one can ever tell you, because the truth is they didn't come from anything, they were just made up figures.

God what is the obsession with ethnicity? I thought you were one of the ones above that. Is that seriously all that those events have in common?

The Liberty attack was by Israel. The Holocaust is a profitable industry by Zionist in general both Jewish and non-Jewish. They both serve the Israeli state a creation of the MIC. That is what Israel is, an area to use to create conflicts for the US military. The Holocaust protects Israel by shutting up opposition and making Israel seem like a refuge spot for Jews decimated by war. And likens Israel to the Jewish people in general thus making any criticism of Israel become criticism of the Jews as a people and therefore anti-Semitic. The Liberty attack was set up by faction in the US and Israel jointly and then after the fact covered up. It's still being covered up.

What they have to do with one another is the total lack of media attention or coverage in contemporary education. Those known myths about the Holocaust and I'm not talking about the debatable 6 million number but the non-debatable known mythologies about Jewish Lampshades and Soap or the Diaries of Anne Frank were and are still being taught in American school systems. I was taught that stuff and believed it. I see no reason not the start questioning the rest of it.

That's why one reminded me of the other. Plus the topic was brought up I think by you (Thunk) recently. And I do read this site even though I don't post much. I wrote it because anytime I talk about the Liberty attack which is what nearly brought the US overtly into the war against Egypt in 1967, I have to go through the hoops of explaining how it has nothing to do with hating Jews. And how Israel is not a refuge spot for Jews because of WWII. The Brits partitioned Palestine in 1922 and the agreements for making Israel were made during WWI. Palestinians were being rounded up and shot by Zonists in 1901.

The Holocaust industry is the root of it all. It's like these racist, heartless, bastards, are using the events of a world tragedy (too many people) exclusively as their own as if no one else died or has died, and with that can continue of their own campaign of ethnic cleansing. It's protected because the US military industry profits form it. So the history that perversely justifies it is protected too.

People don't get jailed for questioning anything else in history. I mean you can say the moon is made of cheese if you want to and not go to jail. Everyone will think you're an idiot but you don't go to jail for it. Someone is hiding something.
The only other things I can think of that you go to jail for questioning in some places is religion. And they definitely have something to hide there too because organized religion is the biggest bunch of historical bullshit there is.

Thunk i think when you asked why she brought the holocaust up she was saying one reminded her of the other, and that actually you brought up the holocaust.

they are related in her mind because in both cases the history is untouchable and the media and class room education on both ignore obvious lies around each. The Liberty is a more obvious example and then PARTS of the Holocaust are also lies too but the whole thing in both cases are untouchable almost non-disscussable because of the Holocaust.

I mean talk about unrelated what did Palestine have to do with what the Germans did?
And why isn't that a central question. I mean what right (other than biblical bullshit) did Europeans have to award someone else land to "the Jews." Thus creating an ethnic/religious state, and how it elects within that ethnic religious state be it democracy or whatever are irrelevant.

I mean should we just give away a Caribbean Island to Tibet because of their problems with China? How would the people living on that Island feel?

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Thunk http://www.nizkor.org/features/techniqu ... on-02.html
is a pretty sad rebuttal man. It basically says 4 million is true because a bunch of people all using the same census data of the dead link all say it's true. And the link before that quoting the census data explaining Jewish population from 1938-40 and then finally on 1949 just admitted that the census data was all fucked up and not updated. Plus even if it wasn't that such a stretchy unscientific way to come up with a number and not call it a gross estimation.

It's hard to find anything anti-Lincoln either unless you purposely go away from the establishment. But that doesn't mean he didn't do the things we know he did. It means people just want to make him a hero and omit the shitty stuff he did in order to create the picture they want. Winners write the history. We don't go into the million Churchill had killed in his empire only the millions Hitler killed. Churchill though just as guilty of killing millions is not the epitome of evil (hitler is like a brand image for it) the way Hitler is, and Churchill was every bit as racist and as much of an imperialist. But if you go by books written about both men guess what you will find? a Hero and a demon instead of two demons. The reason is Churchill's side won the war. History isn't up to a vote or how many people write and say the same things. Countless books say god is real, that doesn't mean he is. Without Physical evidence you just can't have a solid round number. All you can say based on train records etc is at least a million and probably a lot more. You can't just guess and say 6 million or 12 million.

A better rebuttal would be, a great number of people claimed to be Jewish after the war who were not Jewish and never were, because they wanted and needed reparations. That is why there is a rapid inflation of Jews. There are endless cases of fraud after the war to get money. It is a more likely scenario and has more explanatory power.

But this is just sad.

Where is the evidence? (it burned) then how did you get a number then (uhhh census data?) where is the traces of the gasses used and why is there a delousing gas why even bother? (uhh to make them slaves longer before killing them and the gas though not traceable was eye witnessed) Where are the bodies? (burned that too) then how did you get the number? (uh census data from the 30s)... It's a circle.

It's not offensive to question anything. I'm sure people find it offensive for me to question religion and out right ruin it. But tough for them. If they can't stand on facts then they deserve it. And Nizkor claims 12 million Jews died. And puts on it's front page the frame that deniers are just a bunch of racist neonazis.

I don't know I just watched Industry of Death a film for the high school I teach at and in that they explained how many Jews were shipped on trains and died. There was no six million figure much less a 12 million figure. Fewer Jews died in the year of 1942 than in just the few days of the Dresden bombings. The escalation of deaths for Jews/communists/gays/atheists came at the very end of the war, the majority by starvation after the allied bombings. What German did was sick sick sick, and slave camps are about as fucked up and fucked up gets, but the intention was that of slavery not extermination or they would all have just been shot upon stepping off the train. (as the handicapped were)

I think, the allies don't want to admit that they didn't give a damn about the conditions of the camps, and didn't care that it would cause all the prisoners to starve. They certainly didn't give a shit about the people starving in India and what was to become Bangladeshi. The French made an agreement with Germany to arrest any foreign Jews who had fled from Germany and deport them where the Nazi would obviously imprison them or kill them. They didn't give a damn about the Jews. That's not why the allies were fighting or who they were fighting for. That just became a good moral sounding reason after the war.

Hell the US had its own camps for Japanese American. (if America started losing those people would have starved to death too, it was only two decades before that they put Apache in camps to die).

And they starved, there is no doubt about it. They looked like walking skeletons. They didn't live like that the whole time in the camp. There were people who escaped the camps. Four Jews (all healthy) got Nazi Uniforms and stole a truck and drove right out of one camp. Sorry I forget which one it was. I read books like Man's search for Meaning by a holocaust survivor, and in it, again they were fed like normal shitty prison meals until near the end (after allied bombings) at which time most every one he knew starved to death.

Offensive to question? Well not really it's offensive not to question. If something is true it will stand on its own. It could be stupid to question, but not offensive. You can question evolution all day. It would be stupid, but not offensive. You can question how many people died in any of America's other wars too (it's not offensive even though we all know a lot of people died, if it is the wrong number then it's the wrong number) and the stats remain as they are. The tricky thing about the Holocaust is the bodies were burned. That mean we DON'T KNOW how many people died, so it's wrong to say no more than what we can prove died but it's also wrong to say anything we want to say died and no proof is needed.

No one took good care of prisoners. Every side used torture and death. But only one group gets umpteen million films, and it's not the Russians or Chinese (both allied powers losing tens of millions) it's the Jews, because for once it wasn't America and England doing the killing.

The allies need the Holocaust more than the Jews. They need something unique to point to and say what horror. Otherwise every single crime done by the axis was done in greater scale by the allied powers. There is not a thing one can point to that the allied powers were not also guilty of and so in order to maintain the high ground the focus has to be on the holocaust. (death by fire) because every other kind of death was owned by the allies, including death by fire when you include those who died from bombs.

I mean the US had just nuked two cities. That is people of all ages just dead in a flash. It's pretty hard to justify. And the Chinese and Russian Japan was fighting were hardly saints themselves. And if Japan had the bomb they probably would have used it too, but it would also have been just as fucked up. It was pretty hard for the colonial powers now responsible for two world war claiming 175 million people, to explain exactly why they were "good guys" without the rescue story of the Holocaust. And to me THAT is why the Holocaust is so enshrined, not Jewish power bla bla bla but the American (mostly) power of morphing the war into something to look like saviors and heros for and not imperialist. (as they launched right in to Korea to replace the Japanese after the war, and killed millions more in the "cold" war with Russia.

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Bullshit. If you watch that David Cole video on Donahue and listen to the narrator who talks over them, you hear him dissect the phone call from the supposed German woman who called in to say, "My mother made babies for Hitler. I was from Lebansborn. I saw the lamp shades and the soap and Mengele."

Problem is Mengela was at Auschwitz, not Lebansborn. And no one ever claimed soap and lamp shades were made at Lebansborn. The caller couldn't even get the facts right. Obviously, a plant from the Wiesenthal Center who called in. I could go on and on but you just have to pull your head out of your ass and actually watch that Donahue show.


Once again, Hoess was tortured.


See that? he confessed to jews being gassed at a camp that doesn't exist. Hoess' testimony is worthless I'm afraid.

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First, you attack the tv show for it being on tv. As if that means anything. Then on top of that, you construct a strawman. I never said the claim of lampshades were first made on Donahue. I said that a woman who claimed to have seen the lampshades was an obvious liar. Just like all the other people who talked about lamp shades. You really need to pay attention to the narrator's comments on that video when he stops the video and inserts his points. Oh, right, you haven't done that and you won't because it's just a tv show. Fine. Be immature.

As for refusing to read my stuff that takes five hours, I'm not surprised. It's a long read to find out that Bischoff letter is not what you say it is, or to find out that nizkor twisted the facts when they tried to refute Berg on the diesel van story. I bet it also bothers you that people figured out that Himmler speech was a concocted fraud and that Zundel was correct all those years ago on American tv, to deny its authenticity.

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Waterboarding?

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