Anti-Neocons

Two years ago I could not have accurately defined 'zionism', nor would have acknowledged importance of knowing about it.

Most people are still like that imo.

I've started posting on message boards of differing political slant so to speak, that have a high traffic count. Maybe wake up a few who otherwise never hear this point of view.

ie

Military.com - In the News, Point Counterpoint

Craigslist - politics

Anandtech.com - politics and news

clarkhoward.com - general discussion

in the appropriate subforum(s), keeping it low key non confrontational.

I'd appreciate any help keeping relevant topics bumped up

Current posts concern USS Liberty attack

Funny how much u can change over a two year period, two years ago i actually wanted to join the military. Now im trying to stop kids from joining at my school.

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"War is a series of disastors that result in a winner."

"Screaming for peace with a gun in your hand, what can be more futile."

Two years ago I knew a lot of stuff but I was not being active enough about it. I didn't have this website and the one I used to have was deleted. I was living in the US and working for Nader.

Now I live in Japan, wrote a book about the MIC and the Media, run this website and two others and I have been making films about every 3 months exposing everything from the occupation of Palestine to the lies about Iraq.

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You guys all ROCK!!

Intelligence is defined by the ability to recognize.....

Most people deliberately deny what is so obviously the truth in front of them.

learn the truth and do what you do, present it to others like Ry does so that the Intelligent ones also are able to act upon it.

Scott!!

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The truth is spreading.

911 was a Mossad opperation. Why did we find evidence of the hijackers when they later turned up alive? Because it was planted at the scene by the Israelis to create a false flag opperation.

Why did they live next door to Atta? Because it was not Atta. He was killed and replaced by the Mossad who took his double to a flight school. Why do you thikn Atta could not speak German when questioned in German by his instructor?

Why was Atta's passport miraculously found un burned at ground zero? Because the Mossad put it there. Why was it his 1999 dated passport which was reported stolen, that was found?

Why was Atta meeting with Jack Abarmoff on his casino ships? Was it really Atta or the Mossad agent hanging out with the super zionist and lobbiest/briber Abarmoff.

Put it together people. The Art Students were bugging offices and killed and set up their 911 patsies. They were not just monitoring them, they were together. The moving companies planted the bombs in the twin WTC buildings. And the Anthrax letter were sent with the message Death to Israel Death to America in order to unify to two against Israel's enemies. No one was on those planes on 911 that was remote control.

Our government has been hijacked by Zionist Neocons. get the real story here 911 reality It's Israel's lobby AIPAC which has been caught red handed spying on the US. It was Israel where PNAC was first written. And it was the Zionist OSP which led the charge to war on false claimes into Iraq. All Roads Lead to Israel.

see this as well its short http://www.rys2sense.com/anti-neocons/viewtopic.php?t=1809

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It was not Atta's passport that was found on Chambers Street in NYC. Can't remember the pilot's name but it was NOT Atta.

Atta's passport was found in Boston:
"One of the main pieces of alleged proof involved the claim that the baggage of Mohamed Atta, called the ringleader of the hijackers, was discovered at the Boston airport, from which Flight 11 departed. This baggage, besides containing Atta's passport and driver's license, also contained various types of incriminating evidence, such as flight simulator manuals, videotapes about Boeing airliners, and a letter to other hijackers about preparing for the mission. But the bags also contained Atta's will." (David Griffin)

"The passport of one of the hijackers on Flight 11 was allegedly found in the rubble, having survived the fire caused by the crash into the north tower and also whatever caused everything else in this building except the steel to be pulverized.84" (David Griffin)

There's also this tidbit: ""Sept. 13, 2001. A “Kingdom of Saudi Arabia Student Identity Card” was found in the rubble at the Pentagon with Moqed’s name on it. Forensic examination indicated that it may have been fraudulent. United States Secret Service Forensic Services report for the FBI PENTTBOM investigation regarding the physical examination of forensic science research request, Oct. 10, 2001." - 9/11 Commission: Monograph on 9/11 and Terrorist Travel, Chp 2 (PDF)"

The Atta passport rumor seems to have originated from the Guardian.

Perhaps Kerik needs to come clean on how he supposedly obtained this.

"In less than a week came another find, two blocks away from the twin towers, in the shape of Atta's passport. We had all seen the blizzard of paper rain down from the towers, but the idea that Atta's passport had escaped from that inferno unsinged would have tested the credulity of the staunchest supporter of the FBI's crackdown on terrorism." Uncle Sam's lucky finds/ Guardian Tuesday March 19, 2002

(Crash-Proof Passport)

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As an ex-Army Infantry soldier most of my early life was seen through a glazed set of psuedo-patriotic blinders. For a long time I bought into what they were selling. That the US was a fundamentally good nation of the people-- for the people and all that other nonsense that they drill into your head from day one.

I was virtually clueless about this whole sordid state of affairs until last year as if almost by chance I stumbled upon the Loose Change doc in a movie forum of all places! Upon viewing it for the first time I was numbed to the core. But gradually as I began to do more and more research it was as though I had stumbled through the looking glass. As a result I began seeing everything much differently and likewise became overtly cynical towards everything that the MSM presented.

Since that time I have changed many aspects of life. I don't watch the news anymore since it is full of blatant distractions, lies and coverups of lies. The first step is to turn off the idiot box.

If you really want to get your socks rocked, use any of the online used bookstores (amazon, abebooks, alibris) to find Victor Ostrovsky's books. Read them in the order written. He wrote two novels at the end to cover stuff he couldn't put in the first two.

As a US soldier you will be intimately familiar with the events he discusses; if not, because of age, at least the history of them. I was speechless for about a week.

Unlike you I was involved in the reporting of these events, and Ostrovsky's books filled in the global dimension that I failed to see, but could nonetheless see in the consequences right under my nose.

We slept through the 90s, and we're paying for it bigtime now. You may come to see what I have only in the past three years: that the Clinton Chronicles and the OJ spectacle, to name a few, were carefully carefully engineered public dramas laid out in tandem and in parallel with such engineered non-events as the Atlanta bombing (led to FAA profiles), TWA 800 (led to heightened airport security) and the OK bombing (introduced arabs initially as the culprits), all designed to have the public see these events as a fact of life, rather than extraordinary and out of place.

Anyway ... find the books.

excuse all typos...did not reread.

Thanks for the recommendation. I'll be sure to check those out.

Is it just me or does it seem as though the dumbing down of America is no fluke? Ask a typical high schooler questions regrading anything about geography or history and watch the blank deer-in-the-headlights response that you get. It occurs to me that this is all by design. They want constituencies of sheep that are uneducated dolts who ask no questions.

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My book just came out yesterday on 6/6/06
15.95 and it talks all about 911 the Israelis, the war in Iraq and bashes the Fox News ABCNNBCBS media.

Welcome to the USSA.

Buying this book will help this site.


join this forum help fight the Neocons, main page here anti-neocons.com

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Congratulations on your book.

You know I was looking at your tagline: "It is no more anti-semitic to speak out against the Israeli government than it would be anti-american to speak out against the American government. The charge of anti-semitism is a desperate defense for the Zionist warmongers."

It struck me that a better analogy might be "... than it would be anti-christian to speak out against the American government. ..."

Just a thot.

Just out of curiosity how much money (percent) will you get from it's sells? Oh and yea....i'm gonna buy the book as soon as my next paycheck comes in.

Lol I know how your anti-christian did you choose 6/6/06 as the specific date for it to have been released? I can imagine the sheep now...."666??? ZOMG RY IS TEH ANTI-CHRIZT!!!! "

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06/06/06 is my sister's birthday but that had little to do with it. Being an atheist I did not care about the superstition behind the number. I did not choose the date I wrote the book a long time ago and sent it in for publishing. It was actually 6/7/06 in Japan where I live when it was published. I think it is stupid that people get worked up over meaningless numbers. The publishing and printing was not up to me. They finished it as fast as they could as I am trying to get this out before the attack on Iran.


I'm not anti-Chrisitan, even though I do not believe in the religion. I am anti-Christian-institutions. The faith is one thing. I actually like the Jesus Character for example. But Christianity is not just a religion it is a business. Churches help governments wgae war and they use the money of their flocks to fatten the war-pigs.

Churches are by definition for profit businesses. The Vatican has more gold than Fort Knox. Look at how Protestant Churches pay for the Occupation of Palestine.

These are just the Portestant Churches who have considered divestment, putting morals over profits. Other Protestants sects are not even listed.

Billions invested in the Israeli occupation

Presbyterian Church USA (PCUSA) 8 BILLION


The General Assembly of the Presbyterian Church (USA) is slated to meet in Birmingham, Alabama in June 2006 to vote on the next step in its controversial divestment process, and it is still unclear what direction it will take. A special committee appointed by PCUSA to investigate the issues told representatives from a coalition of Jewish organizations in January 2006 that they did not expect their work to be finished in time for the national conference in June.

Meanwhile, dozens of resolutions -- called overtures in church terminology -- have been debated across the United States by local PCUSA synods or chapters offering proposals on whether PCUSA should proceed with its divestment campaign, or whether the movement should delay or abandon divestment as its strategy.


The controversy first erupted in July 2004, when the PCUSA General Assembly voted to divest from companies doing business with Israel. The Church's investment portfolio has $8 billion in holdings. The vote, passed by 431-62, calls on the "Mission Responsibility Through Investment Committee (MRTI) to initiate a process of phased, selective divestment in multinational corporations operating in Israel." Through an internal process, the PCUSA later added an additional focus on companies that might support violence against Israelis. The PCUSA's Committee on Mission Responsibility Through Investment (MRTI) identified four companies that work with Israel (Caterpillar, ITT, Motorola, and United Technologies Corporation). They also identified one company for its alleged actions that involve support for terrorism (Citigroup). The MRTI committee has stated that it will not move for the sale of any of these stocks.

Despite the Presbyterian divestment initiative, many church leaders and people in the pews across the country have strongly and vocally disagreed with the Church's proposal to divest from Israel. See: What They Are Saying: Statements by Church Leaders on Divestment

Episcopal/Anglican Church (ECUSA) £4 BILLION

In fall 2004, the Episcopal Church announced that it would likely conduct a yearlong examination of whether or not the Church should divest its holdings from companies doing business in Israel. In an October 1 statement, Episcopal Bishop Christopher Epting, the church's ecumenical director, and the Rev. Brian Grieves, director of its peace and justice division announced that the investigation will look into what investments are "appropriate with companies that contribute to the ongoing (Israeli) Occupation (of Palestinian territories), especially in the areas of home demolitions, settlement building and the separation wall."

However, after a period of review and consultation, including meetings with national Jewish agencies, the ECUSA announced it had removed divestment from consideration.


Evangelical Lutheran Church in America (ELCA)

The ELCA, at its Church-wide Assembly in summer 2005 considered and rejected a divestment resolution, instead adopting a "positive investment" policy to foster peace and cooperation in the region. This approach stresses an investment of "advocacy, volunteer work, and financial resources in those who share in the quest for peace with justice."


United Church of Christ (UCC)

The UCC, at its General Synod, also in summer 2005, considered and rejected a divestment resolution. A "positive investment" substitute was passed out of committee. However, a last minute "compromise" was moved and adopted that included both "positive investment" and an endorsement of divestment. The resolution did not initiate any divestment process, though, and UCC leaders have stated that none is planned.


United Methodist Church (UMC)

The UMC has continued to defer any action on divestment. Two local regions adopted resolutions in support of divestment. National leaders, however, have expressed their opposition to any similar action on behalf of the UMC.



Church of England £2.3 Billion (pounds not dollars) and that is just in ONE company!

On February 6, 2006, the Church of England's General Synod overwhelmingly voted to divest from companies whose products are used by Israel in the Palestinian territories. The Synod backed a call by the Episcopal Church in Jerusalem to divest from "companies profiting from the illegal occupation," such as Caterpillar. The Church described its support for divestment as "morally responsible investment". The divestment vote was spearheaded by radical Anglicans, among them Bishop John Gladwin, who maintains a close association with the Sabeel Ecumenical Liberation Theology Center in Jerusalem.


The current Archbishop of Canterbury, Rowan Williams, voted in favor of the divestment motion. His predecessor, Lord Carey, spoke forcefully against divestment and declared himself "ashamed to be an Anglican" after the vote was passed.

One month after the Synod vote, which is not binding, the Church's Ethical Investment Advisory Group announced that it would not withdraw its investment in Caterpillar (worth 2.3 million Pounds), since it could find "no compelling evidence" of the company's involvement in the abuse of human rights. In response, anti-Israel activists in the Church have urged individual parishes to withdraw monies from the Church's Central Board of Finance.

There is more. You would not Believe how much the Born Again Christians give. In fact I am beginning to think that the Born Again Movement is an Israeli mole inside Christianity. Nothing turns people away from Christianity more than The Born Again crazies for a number of reasons and these are the one funding Israel more than anyone inlcuding our government! And it is all Tax Exempt.

its not a person or even a corporation as both of those pay taxes. Churches are tax exempt and funnle money into the illegal occupation of Palestine. They are profiting from the war. Most Christians I believe if they knew this would be outraged. They are kept in the dark. It does not reflect Christian values it reflects the profit motive of the Church leaders who invest other people's money and make a profit from it.

Christians by and large assume the money they give to Churches is going to help the poor etc. That is the bubble I am breaking. But how nice of you to ignore all of that and just lump it in as a mormal special interest group.

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Sorry about that, I meant to say anti-christianity my bad.

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I think even Jesus would be ticked at the way things are. The Pharisees he always talked about have won. The Church is all about MONEY. The televangelists are multi-millionaires.

Now I am not Christian for the same reason i dont believe in Unicorns and magic beans. I find religions in general superstitious nonsense. But I would not care what all invisible men people pray to or magical palces people's ghost go to after they die etc. I could care less. That would be no more harmful than Santa Claws.

But is not just a belief in the supernatural. It is attached to a for profit business and moral system (which is highly immoral and prejudice) and it has conflicts with science, homosexuals etc.

Now its not all forms of the religion. The Quakers for example are non-violent. Some sects have adopted intelligent desgin which at least allows for evolution but gives god credit for it.

But nothing is as deadly historically or presently as the way Christian institutions have and are financing wars of aggression. From the Crusades to today they have always backed wars for ECONOMICS. Trade routs into Asia or control of oil it doesnt matter its about money. However they way to get dumb fucks to die for it is to use the hot bottons of religion and the belief in an afterlife that makes soldiers not really worry or care about their life. The occupation of Palestine would be impossible were it not for Christian money backing it. The conflict in Kashmir would not work without the rhetoric and money from Muslims and Hidu. Religions are not just faiths they are businesses. They clooect money in a church, build more churches and collect more money.

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It was the Sabeel Ecumenical Liberation Theology Center in Jerusalem that started the boycott of Israel, contrary to all the Abe Foxman wailing about the churches.

Think it was the Anglican Church that boycotted them in England recently; can' remember.

But it was the largest Public Workers Union in Canada that recently called a vote for a boycott and won.

The presbatyrians are the only ones to divest a penny. The Anglican church in England voted overwehmingly to divest but they didn't do it. One Israel played its threats the divestment died. They still give them 2.3 billion ponds.

this is not millions poeple this is BILLIONS.

This is why the Protestants ally with Israel. Hell the whole foundation of Protestantism was to break away from the Catholics who outlawed Usery. Something the Rothchilds had enjoyed for a long time.

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"It doesn't matter who we are underneath. It is what we do that defines us." Batman

"If a tree falls in the woods and no one is there to hear it or see it.
Would Israel still blame it on Iran?"-Ry Dawson

Google version of War by Deception (Magic Bunnies)
Pass HR 1207 and S604 audit the Fed



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Underground History of American Education

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Nice to see this thread get some responses.

I'd like to invite you guys to make a couple responses to my thread at Clark Howard:

http://clarkhoward.com/p/boards/ch/show ... &sb=5&vc=1

About two years ago, I'm talking about the USS liberty with a friend. He says, "your not turning into one of those neo-nazis are you?"

WTF is a "neo"nazi, I said. He couldn't answer.

How to Criticise Zionism

How to Talk About Israel

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Hey lookit I'm quoting meself !

Thanx Aucunemarie - your response over there was far more impactful than my inarticulate effort. The guy who responded to you seemed genuinely curious about the subject.

Perhaps the 100 views of that thread represent about 50 people who'd otherwise never run across this info. Maybe 10 of those will wonder enough to look into it.

Small numbers, but at various boards... spreading ripples, word of mouth etc, who knows ? Maybe the word will eventually get out to enough to make a difference.

I intend to keep that thread bumped up so anyone else join in.

and btw there was/is a long running thread at Hannity.com about the Public Workers boycott in Canada - one guys holding up his side pretty well, representin' for the Union, against the rants and venom of the pro-Zionists over there.

Strangely enough I can't yet post over there - maybe Hannity can see my rys2sense cookies ??? LOL