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 Post subject: Edukation: what did you "learn" at public school?
 Post Posted: Sun Oct 19, 2008 12:26 pm 
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Post your personal experiences with brainwashing, indoctrination, or horror stories with public school education...

this is my repost from the Christopher Columbus Day thread:
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Public school - music teacher made us put on a play in 5th grade all about Christopher Columbus, his holiness. Concurrently the history lessons were all about the great Conquistadors and Exploiters, ahem, Explorers. Well I thought that was shit. I engaged in academic disobedience. Got my first non-A in any subjects. History and Music. Those dumb bitches. "Gifted" students get an extra heavy dose of brainwashing, apparently.

The same year we had to put on another play about one world, earth day, all the people unite for environmentalism save the planet bullshit (way pre-Gore, but same thing). I conserve, I recycle, I re-use my grocery bags, but fuck that agenda. They made us sing hymns and praises like those Obama kids in that one video floating about(not the military Obama Youth, a different one). My parents were pissed when I was up on stage, silent protest refusing to participate. I just stared at the audience. lol. I explained it to them though, they were with me after some yelling and tears.

Next year we got a history textbook that was total trash. a masterpiece of bs. it really was well put together though. the semester after that it was homeschool time. hahaha

It starts in public school for many people. You get a free day off, why ask questions?
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Also, a close friend(also in the U.S.) said a high teacher made the statement that "Jews have horns", you know, literally, but you just can't see them because they hide them. Lol.

I came across this on a mises blog post on soviet indoctrination, it's kind of relevant:
Lenin's slogan, "Marxism is Almighty Because It Is True," was displayed practically everywhere in the former Soviet Union. My first encounter with Karl Marx came in the first grade of elementary school in the city of Kazan on the banks of the great Volga River. His picture was printed on the first page of the first textbook I opened. "Dedushka Marx" (Grandfather Marx), said the teacher pointing to the picture. I was thrilled, for both of my grandfathers died in Stalin's purges in the 1930s. I ran home to my grandma to tell her she was wrong. "I have a grandpa," I said, and with his huge beard and smiling eyes, "he looks like Father Frost" (the Soviet/atheist version of Santa Claus or Saint Nicholas, the patron saint of Russia).


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We tend to paint the past with the colors on our pallet at a given time. School was a trying time for all but the very lucky. I do remember the lies that were told me and they are grayed out for the most part. Mostly I recall the relationships I had with people. We were young and everything was new. The excitement of discovery.

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I remember heavy favortism by some female teachers towards the girls. I remember teachers hitting students, choking students and nothing happening. English class the the biggest waste of time all we did for years was read fictional stories and explain what we thought they "meant". History class went from Columbus to the civil war like 4 times. So many things were either wrong or ignored. I learned far more outside of school.

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Well elementary school was the typical K-6 bull that I really didn't know any better about.

Middle and high school was atypical for an American public school because the school I attended is a charter school. This means they are a publicly-funded school, but they write their own curriculum, evaluation system, philosophy, etc.

In any case, I actually first learned about the Israel-Palestinian conflict in high school and it was presented in a way that seemed neutral at the time. Looking back there were some Zionist excuses presented that gave it a more pro-Israel bias, but it was probably more neutral than most people learn about it.

The school also had a higher percentage of activist and politically-engaged students than typical high schools. I believe this is because the issue of charter schools is politically controversial so many people who were involved in the school were inherently tied to a political movement.

The philosophy of the school lent itself to study skills as opposed to content, so I feel fortunate that I was raised in a free-thinker encouraged environment instead of the usual memorize-regurgitate system of the regular public schools.


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Ry wrote:
I remember heavy favortism by some female teachers towards the girls. I remember teachers hitting students, choking students and nothing happening. English class the the biggest waste of time all we did for years was read fictional stories and explain what we thought they "meant". History class went from Columbus to the civil war like 4 times. So many things were either wrong or ignored. I learned far more outside of school.


Sounds about right, but the feminists had not gotten big yet. We did have some pretty obnoxious lesbians though.

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i learned nothing at school, quite literally.

i would have prefered to have been taught bs then absoloutly nothing.

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exquisite wrote:
i learned nothing at school, quite literally.

i would have prefered to have been taught bs then absoloutly nothing.


I disagree. You may be lucky. You might be supporting the wrong things now in a big way. Instead, you have developed your own opinion. You had to reason for yourself. It was up to you to find a path. There will always be what ifs in life. Don't dwell on them to excess.

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