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Post subject: V Is Joe Lieberman going down???  Posted: Sun May 21, 2006 7:52 pm |
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I support Lamont! Knocking the Neocon Lieberman out of the senate would be the best thing in the world for the Democratic party. If we can get him out we can defeat Hilary. This is a sign that the mid term elections will be dropping the neocons. We need to be cleaning house in both parties and this is a great start!
Quote: Lamont easily clears threshold to force vote KEN DIXON dixon.connpost@snet.net HARTFORD — The Democratic State Convention on Friday night nominated U.S. Sen. Joe Lieberman to a fourth six-year term, but he won't avoid a primary with Ned Lamont, the upstart Greenwich millionaire. In a mid-evening vote, alphabetically by Congressional district, Lieberman collected 1,004 votes and Lamont won more than twice the number he needed to avoid a petition drive, taking 505 votes, or 33 percent of the votes cast.Delegates from Bridgeport exemplified the intramural party split over the Iraq war that has given Lamont a shot at unseating Lieberman. Two prominent city politicians — Mayor John M. Fabrizi and Board of Education member Maximino Medina Jr. — were spotlighted with major nominating speeches for their respective candidates. Lieberman and Lamont seemed resigned to a long spring and summer primary campaign, to be capped by an Aug. 8 primary ballot. While Lieberman said he hoped Lamont would drop the challenge, Lamont said he's already worked too hard to give up. U.S. Sen. Chris Dodd, sometimes shouting over the chants of Lamont delegates, told the convention that Lieberman has built an impressive record over 18 years, working for the environment, health care and many other issues that affect Connecticut above and beyond its involvement in Iraq. "We need Joe Lieberman fighting for those values that we stand for as Democrats," Dodd implored over several dozen Lamont supporters who shouted, "Bring them home," referring to the troops in Iraq. Fabrizi, in a prime spot on the night's agenda, followed Dodd with the seconding speech before a restless crowd on the first day of the two-day quadrennial convention. "One of the many reasons I am a Democrat is that there is always room for disagreement in our party," Fabrizi told the convention, which has 1,607 delegates and nearly as many operatives working the floor. "And while some may disagree with Joe Lieberman's views on the war, no one can disagree with his commitment to Connecticut's future." Fabrizi said he was grateful for Lieberman's role in gaining tens of millions of dollars for the city. "Folks, this election is about Connecticut, not about Iraq," Fabrizi said. "And Joe Lieberman has consistently delivered for Connecticut." Lamont, an anti-war candidate who is trying to become more than a one-issue wannabe, was nominated to the Senate by Medina, a Bridgeport lawyer who serves on the local Board of Education. "By casting our votes for Ned Lamont for U.S. Senate, we can show America that Connecticut Democrats will lead the way and demand real change," Medina said. "Connecticut Democrats should not be in the business of impersonating Republicans. Support for a dishonest administration and misguided war cannot be glossed over." Bridgeport cast 55 votes for Lieberman and six for Lamont, while Fairfield Democrats cast 18 for Lamont and six for Lieberman. Milford delegates cast 15 votes for Lieberman and six for Lamont, while Stratford cast 15 for the incumbent and three for Lamont. Shelton went 37-13 in Lieberman's favor. Lieberman threw a mid-afternoon picnic for Democrats, complete with open bar and kosher hot dogs, chatting with the building crowds at the read the rest here http://www.connpost.com/news/ci_3846201_________________ This site is against war, Zionism, (or any other form of racism), profiteering, and all forms of government corruption, mass media deception, and cover ups. This is not a site to flail on about space aliens-illuminati-masonic-deathcult-jewish-catholic-lizard-lucifarian-jesuit-queen-barvarian-etc bull hockey. Take that junk somewhere else.
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Post subject: Posted: Sun May 21, 2006 9:22 pm |
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Isn't "cleaning the house" pretty much impossible, because the neo-cons still have Diebold and other ways to fix the elections?
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Post subject: Posted: Sun May 21, 2006 11:52 pm |
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Not all elections are run on those machines many states have a paper trails Because of the diebold scandal. We can clean up congress.
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Post subject: Posted: Mon May 22, 2006 8:02 am |
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"Five years ago, after Saddam ejected the UN inspectors, John McCain and I gave up on containment and introduced the Iraqi Liberation Act, which, when it became law, made a change of regime in Baghdad official U.S. policy. You might therefore say that, when it comes to Iraq, President Bush is just enforcing the McCain-Lieberman policy." - Joe Lieberman - Wehrkunde conference, Munich - Feb. 8, 2003.
"As some of you know, when I first ran for Vice President five years ago, my Democratic opponent was a fine U.S. Senator named Joe Lieberman, We disagreed on some issues, but we stand together on this war." - Dick Cheney
Dick Cheney and Joe Lieberman, birds of a feather flock together
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Psychology Watch: The Obvious Boy For Next Secretary Of Defense
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Delayed moral advancement tends to go hand-in-hand with the lower rungs of emotional maturity. In kids trapped in adult bodies, you tend to see silliness substituting for wit; awkwardness in the place of poise; passion masquerading as love; aggression covering for strength; and rituals standing in for originality.
In practical terms, such people usually derive comfort and security from a simpler, more uncomplicated social existence -- often through immersion in the softer, safer side of domestic life, and/or greater interest and involvement in the world of young people, children and animals.
This is the profile you find when you study a Bush, Rumsfeld -- or Lieberman.
When the Senator says he will run as an independent if he gets knocked off in the Democratic primary, he's not making a thoughtful judgement, he's throwing a hissy fit. When Lieberman cozies up to Bush and the two embrace in the Senate chamber, the best analogy is not two mature gay men so much as innocent and excited children recognizing a possible new playmate from the other side of town.
It's no surprise that Lieberman's Senatorial photo gallery (website) happens to include so many babies, children and other acts of silliness (like the shot above). In the Constituent Meetings section, for example, except for one mom, you'd think there wasn't a person to serve in Connecticut over the age of 13.
No, Ned Lamont is not running against a grown up. He's running against Joey, Barney's friend, who is interested in spending more time at Georgy's house if the bad Donald turns out to be grounded for a long time.
Update 5/2/06 9:31am PST: Not to say The BAG had anything to do with it, but the Lieberman staff has updated the "Constituent Meeting" section. Yes, there are more grown ups there now (a flood, actually, with the sudden appearance of several group shots). True to form, however, in addition to new military pics -- often capturing the brave man-child -- we now have more kids, too. Love those boy scouts!
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Lynne Cheney-Joe Lieberman Group Puts Out a Blacklist
December 13, 2001
AN aggressive attack on freedom has been launched upon America's college campuses. Its perpetrators seek the elimination of ideas and activities that place Sept. 11 in historical context, or critique the so-called war on terrorism.
The offensive, spearheaded by the American Council of Trustees and Alumni, a Washington-based group, threatens free speech, democratic debate and the integrity of higher education. In an incendiary report, ``Defending Civilization: How Our Universities Are Failing America,'' the American Council claims that ``colleges and university faculty have been the weak link in America's response'' to Sept. 11. It also asserts that ``when a nation's intellectuals are unwilling to defend its civilization, they give comfort to its adversaries.''
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The American Council of Trustees and Alumni was founded in 1995 by Lynne Cheney, the vice president's wife, and Sen. Joseph Lieberman. Its Website claims that it contributed $3.4 billion to colleges and universities last year, making it ``the largest private source of support for higher education.'' Cheney is cited several times in the report, and is reportedly a close associate of its authors, Jerry Martin and Anne Neal.
Although the council's stated objectives include the protection of academic freedom, the report resembles a blacklist. In a chilling use of doublespeak, it affirms the right of professors to speak out, yet condemns those who have attempted to give context to Sept. 11, encourage critical thinking, or share knowledge about other cultures. Faculty are accused of being ``short on patriotism'' for attempting to give students the analytical tools they need to become informed citizens.
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Post subject: Posted: Wed May 31, 2006 6:40 am |
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[adding to the lieberman dossier]
Quote: Joe Lieberman & the Hostile Takeover of "Centrism"May 30, 2006 By David Sirota [..]
How this semantic strategy legitimates right-wing positions and politicians can best be seen in looking at Sen. Joseph Lieberman (D-CT), a man incessantly billed by the Washington media - and himself - as a "centrist."
In fact, Lieberman's name has become so synonymous with Washington's propagandistic definition of "centrism" that some of the most insulated Establishment spokespeople are using the term in a pathetic attempt to defend him from grassroots primary challenger Ned Lamont (D).
As just one example, take Marshall Wittman. This ultra-right-wing former Christian Coalition official is now employed at the Democratic Leadership Council, and purports to speak for Democrats. He is one of the most odious icons of Washington's bought-off bipartisan Establishment - and has made a name for himself peddling right-wing talking points, narratives and storylines wholly at odds with actual facts. Last week was no exception. He told the Los Angeles Times that the Connecticut primary "is a fight for the soul of the Democratic Party" because "it will have repercussions for the 2008 presidential campaign and whether centrists will feel comfortable within the Democratic Party."
Wittman, a staunch Lieberman shill, is actually correct, though inadvertently. He's right - this is "a fight for the soul of the Democratic Party" and it will indicate "whether centrists will feel comfortable within the Democratic Party." But the actual data shows that the centrist is not Lieberman, as Wittman purports, but those opposing Lieberman. And if Lieberman wins the primary, it could mean that centrists will not feel comfortable in the party, because the actual data shows Lieberman is the out-of-the-mainstream arch-right-winger, and the movement that is challenging him represents the real center.
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Take the Iraq War. Lieberman continues to unflinchingly support the stay-the-course policy of the Bush administration, to the point where he attacks those who even raise questions about the administration's Iraq policy as "undermin[ing] the president's credibility at our nation's peril." His out-of-the-mainstream position comes at a time when every major national poll shows roughly two thirds of Americans oppose the war and want a change in policy. But it gets worse. Lieberman has long claimed that because of the Iraq War, "the world is safer, America is safer." Again, CNN/USA Today polls asked this very question, and they have consistently shown (here and here) that the majority of Americans believe that the Iraq War has made America less safe. In sum, the cold, hard data shows that despite the rhetoric, Joe Lieberman is on the fringe extreme, while those like Ned Lamont who have criticized his position and who want a change in policy are the real centrists.
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How about Social Security? Though Lieberman now desperately claims he's against privatizing Social Security, he was one of the earliest and most outspoken Senators giving credence to the concept - credence that was critical in helping legitimate the concept. As far back as 2000, the New York Times reported that Lieberman was publicly suggesting "that he could support allowing workers to invest a portion of their payroll taxes in the private markets." Two 2002 polls - one from the Los Angeles Times and another from NBC News - both found a strong 55 percent of the public opposed the concept. After the President in 2005 put the full weight of the White House behind selling the concept in the most favorable terms possible, those numbers actually got worse. A CNN/USA Today poll that year found that "opposition rose to 59 percent." So, on yet another issue, the cold, hard data shows Lieberman was well outside the "center," those who criticized him for his position were representing the real center - and yet the out-of-touch Washington chattering classes still billed him as a "centrist" on the issue.
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This pattern shows up even in the specifics of lower-profile issues. On prescription drugs, the Washington Post reported in 2000 that "Lieberman said he was opposed to price controls on drugs." That was the same year Lieberman, a recipeint of more than $400,000 in drug industry cash, voted against bipartisan legislation to reinstate the law that forces drug companies to offer drugs developed at taxpayer expense at a "fair and reasonable price" - instead of allowing them to charge Americans the highest prices in the world for those drugs. It was also the same year the Washington Post billed Lieberman a "centrist" for his work "lobb[ying] hard for pharmaceutical companies on issues [like extending] research and development tax credits."
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How about corporate-written trade deals? Lieberman remains one of the most rock-solid supporters of pacts like NAFTA, WTO and China PNTR that were stripped of labor/wage/human rights/environmental protections and thus undermined American jobs, wages, and benefits. He has attacked as - gasp! - "protectionist" anyone (even fellow Democrats) raising any questions about these trade deals. For this, Washington pundits fall all over themselves to call him a courageous "centrist."
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The list goes on and on. Lieberman is called a "centrist" for reflexively voting for bigger and bigger Pentagon budgets. Yet, major national polls show the "centrist" position among the vast majority of the public is one that supports "deep cuts in defense spending, a significant reallocation toward deficit reduction, and increases in spending on education, job training, reducing reliance on oil, and veterans." Lieberman is called a "centrist" when he publicly brags about "co-sponsor[ing] the capital gains tax cut which finally passed in 1997." Yet, the same year he passed that tax cut for the wealthy, national polls showed that just 10 percent of Americans thought such a policy should be a priority for Congress. The dishonest labeling never seems to stop.
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Washington, in short, deliberately tries to marginalize forces of change by slandering those forces as outside the "center." That propaganda system, not surprisingly, selects for people who refuse to challenge power. This explains why we have so many unspectacular, mealy-mouthed, power-fearing politicians on both sides of the aisle in Congress (and also why there are more outspoken voices in statehouses where this propaganda system is less pronounced). But it also explains why there is so much anger at Washington brewing throughout the country. After so many years of Washington lying to people about what the "center" supposedly is, Americans are waking up. As a 2005 poll by the Feldman Group showed that a whopping 72 percent of Americans now "believe that elected officials in Washington do not see the nation's problems and opportunities in the same way they do."
That anger represents electoral opportunity for the political candidates like Ned Lamont and others who actually look at the data, reject the Beltway's B.S. and stand up for ordinary citizens. To be sure, doing that takes guts. Big Money interests have made an art out of eviscerating those who challenge them, and every pundit on the cocktail party circuit from Joe Klein to Tom Friedman to David Brooks has shown their eagerness to dishonestly attack populists that challenge the Establishment. But rest assured that despite all of this desperate hot air, the cold, hard data shows the public is ready to reward the real centrists - the people who have the guts to stand down the elitsts on the fringe and stand with the vast majority of America in the real mainstream center. That's the place that supports political leaders who dare to fight back against the hostile takeover.
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Post subject: Posted: Wed May 31, 2006 6:49 pm |
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Quote: "Five years ago, after Saddam ejected the UN inspectors, John McCain and I gave up on containment and introduced the Iraqi Liberation Act, which, when it became law, made a change of regime in Baghdad official U.S. policy. You might therefore say that, when it comes to Iraq, President Bush is just enforcing the McCain-Lieberman policy." - Joe Lieberman - Wehrkunde conference, Munich - Feb. 8, 2003.
Yep Bush is a Liberal in Republican clothing. He is the worse aspects of both parties. _________________ This site is against war, Zionism, (or any other form of racism), profiteering, and all forms of government corruption, mass media deception, and cover ups. This is not a site to flail on about space aliens-illuminati-masonic-deathcult-jewish-catholic-lizard-lucifarian-jesuit-queen-barvarian-etc bull hockey. Take that junk somewhere else.
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Post subject: Posted: Wed May 31, 2006 7:58 pm |
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"Five years ago, after Saddam ejected the UN inspectors, John McCain and I gave up on containment and introduced the Iraqi Liberation Act, which, when it became law, made a change of regime in Baghdad official U.S. policy. You might therefore say that, when it comes to Iraq, President Bush is just enforcing the McCain-Lieberman policy." - Joe Lieberman - Wehrkunde conference, Munich - Feb. 8, 2003.
Yep Bush is a Liberal in Republican clothing. He is the worse aspects of both parties.
About the only thing Liberals have got going for them is the claims of not being racist. As if that takes some giant leap of intellect. We have got so many loud mouth inpassioned people going on and on wanting a big pat on the back for the simple act of not being racist (on paper) as if that is some big revolation. Some go as far to say that even believing that race exist is somehow racist or ridiculous. Medical instiutions believe in race however because different illnesses and diseases effect people differently on a macro level by racial groups. Of course we all know the mediacal industries as well as the diseases themselves are racists. (that was sarcasm)
Seriously what issue do liberals have? Traditionally they stand for more government, less fiscal responsibility (note this is why I call Bush a Liberal) and foreign intervention. Economically they want a step towards communism and a welfare state, heavy business regulations on small businesses and use the excuse of the environment as a pretext to grab land and sell it of to themselves (that is based on what they have actually done in the past 98 years).
They started both World Wars as well as Veitnam and the Bay of Pigs and Korea. They totally support Bush in his wars with Iraq and their leading candidates like Hilary and Lieberman openly push for a war with Iran.
Social issues are all they have left and you can not legislate social mores.
People Liberals are not the answer.
We have to get rid of BOTH parties. We have to knock the neocons and the Israeli firsters out of BOTH parties.
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Post subject: Posted: Tue Jun 13, 2006 8:49 am |
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The Obama/Lieberman special relationship, just a snip:
Quote: Mr. Obama Goes to WashingtonAlthough Obama said such high-profile primary endorsements were rare, a similar controversy arose a few weeks later. Just as Ned Lamont's antiwar primary campaign against prowar Connecticut Senator Joe Lieberman was gaining momentum, Obama traveled to the state to endorse Lieberman. Like the Duckworth endorsement, Obama's move was timed to derail an insurgent, grassroots candidate. To progressives this may seem surprising, given Obama's progressive image. But remember, according to the New York Times it is Lieberman--one of the most conservative, prowar Democrats in Washington--who is "Obama's mentor in the Senate as part of a program in which freshman senators are paired with incumbents."
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