Anti-Neocons

Sorry This is apparently over everyones head or else the heated argument has totally consumed you. Hey, I know these are trying times.

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Ry has already gone over who specifically owns the media, and it is not "the Jews", it's the Zionists. Therefore, whether it's Jewish or Gentile control of the media is a moot point, since in the end, they're all still Zionists.



And how do you know Peres is a Vatican puppet/spy?

Because he sold out Israel's deed to temple mount to the Vatican years ago. All the links proving so are at the top of this page. You missed it. That and his being involved in the murder of the last two Israeli patriots who would never have sold out to the Vatican, Rabin and Sharon (well he was cabbaged, not murdered), is pretty obvious.

http://www.yitchakrabin.com/Barry%20Cha ... _assas.htm

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But how does that prove that he's a Vatican puppet/spy, since those sites he gave them control over are Christian ones? Can it be demonstrated that the Vatican is ordering him around, like Israel is ordering the US government around?

Also, given what is alleged of the Vatican's control, you'd expect to encounter at least a few Vatican nationals at the head(s) of these webs of connections. So who are they?

We have plenty of dual-nationals of the US and Israel, and all their moles in the US government. That's one of the ways that leads to spotting the Israeli angle to the whole thing.

Or, better yet, who in one of these high positions attended a Jesuit school? If you can find any US and/or Israeli nationals with high positions of authority and/or influence, who attended any of these Jesuit schools, then you'd really have something.

If they were the property of the Vatican already and not Israel, then why did Peres have to give them the deed to it? You can't give someone the deed to something they already own. The fact that Peres was both in on the attacks on Rabin and Sharon ALONG WITH YORAM RUBIN (who shot Rabin and was Sharon's bodyguard when Sharon drank from the poison cup while having tea with Peres), just proves my point that he's a Vatican spy, it doesn't disprove it. As I said, the Vatican wants land and they want to re-build Solomon's Temple. Now they know these biblical characters are fiction, but they have religious reasons for doing what they want to do.


Study the knights of malta and see how many maltese knights have had control of American intelligence agencies for example. Study how many knights of malta were running the CIA when Kennedy was murdered. Phelps does give details.
http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/vatic ... can02a.htm
The Dulles brothers were Knights of Malta. Wild Bill Donovan was a knight of malta. The FBI was started by a knight of malta Attorney General Charles Bonaparte under the presidency of Teddy Roosevelt, another knight of malta and freemason. The central intelligence agency was started out of the oss with many Zionist Jews but also roman catholic nazis that came to america under project paperclip. Many top American military leaders are trained at Georgetown University, which is really just a jesuit military-intelligence base. I already gave a link out to that for EAP.


That's on the lower level. So what? The mossad was created by a canadian born british intelligence agent Sir William Stephenson. All intelligence agencies are controlled by British Intelligence since they started it all.
http://z13.invisionfree.com/THE_UNHIVED ... opic=31709
Roman catholic nazi Reinhard Gaelin (sp?) not only helped create the CIA but he also helped train the first Mossad agents. Thus, Israeli moles, while they concern me, since they are the gophers used to do the dirty work (being funded by the FBI in 2001 AND PROTECTED AND SHIPPED BACK to help 'get the inside job done'), are not the only things to be concerned about. Historially Israeli intelligence pales in comparison to the CIA and MI-6 when all is said and done. British Intelligence troops were helping blow up levees in Katrina. We know this thanks to Tom Heneghan. There are many bases in America for British Intelligence. The Kay Adams hotel is one. The Aspen Institute is another.
http://z13.invisionfree.com/THE_UNHIVED ... opic=39230
Nobody in the alternative media talks about British Intelligence except a few people.


All universities are basically masonic-jesuit controlled. That's all they are. Harvard. Yale (skull and bones). Georgetown. Nortre Dame. Fordham. The first universities that started in Europe were basically Roman Catholic. One of the first Universities, perhaps the first started in France in 1231 with the bidding of Pope Gregory XI. But statues were issued previously for this University also in 1215 by Robert Courcon. And royal privileges were granted to the University of Paris by the king in 1200. One of the first Universities also started in ITALY. Big surprise there. The graduation from University itself is replete with masonic symbolism (masons, whose lodges all throughout Europe, the jesuits finally got control of in the late eighteenth century thanks to jesuit agent Weishaupt and the Jacobins of the French revolution). When you graduate, you have advanced in knowledge and you get a degree. As you advance higher in knowledge, you get higher degrees. That's just like in freemasonry. What do you wear on your head? A black square, which is the esoteric symbol for saturn. Which is what the Jesuit-Roman mafia is that rules this planet. Jodan Maxwell has been warning to LOOK INTO THE SATURNALIAN BROTHEROOD. Anti masons talk about egyptian and sun symbology in religion, movies, architecture, in money, etc. But saturnalian is less spoken about and thus harder to detect, but it is there if you study.
http://z13.invisionfree.com/THE_UNHIVED ... opic=14789

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You misunderstood me. I wasn't talking about whether they were already the property of the Vatican or not, I was asking why it matters that a Christian site was given to them.



And on what basis are all these people "Knights of Malta" or "Jesuits"? Just because Phelps says they are, doesn't make them so.



How do I know that they're controlled, instead of just working in collusion with each other?



How exactly are all Universities controlled by Jesuits? To me it sounds like they're reading too much into things.

If you admit that it was not property of the Vatican before Peres worked to deed it to them around fifteen years ago, then the issue is over. If you're asking why the Vatican wants it, you'd have to ask them if you want more than what I and Barry Chamish can tell you.


Wild Bill Donovan's wikipedia entry:

Okay he may not have been a knight of malta, but it is likely. If not that, he is certainly a high level freemason given these medals he has gotten, as freemasonry was totally in control of the Jesuits by the late late 1700's. These medals indicate who they work for. Especially given that the British-Roman axis helped set up the CIA WHERE HE WORKED. Thus, if you are allowed to become head of a group that they create, and you live, that means you are doing what they tell you and that means you are one of them. You are tattooed. This is not rocket science. It's just connecting the dots. People do it all the time. Especially when people show how the Rothschilds set up the Federal Reserve, albiet through frontmen.


How do you know there is a hierarchy? How about the fact that Vatican loyal Jews wack Israel loyal jews and can get away with it and never be prosecuted in the country where they commit the crime? Ala, the Peres wacks Rabin and Sharon example. First of all, if you create an intelligence agency and you are part of a wider syndicate such as the knights of malta, then this creation is your bitch and will do what you want it through by way of various front men. Just take the picture of the Rothschilds stepping back out of the limelight but using the Schiffs, Warburgs, Rockefellers and Morgans to take control of newspapers, railways, oil compaines and central banks and just apply it elsewhere. Try being consistent in your logic.


At least you will not deny that the openly Jesuit universities are theirs. Fair enough. As for the not so blatant ones, they are obviously not as powerful. You wouldn't say that the University of Chicago was as influenced by the jesuits as say Georgetown would you? Of course not. However, if you want to get an idea of how bad universities are, consider the fact that the 'intellectual heir' of the North American Union was a university professor. Consider the subject matter of the book PROOFS OF A CONSPIRACY. A university professor who was a freemason, (not all masonic lodges were at this time jesuit controlled, but that would come soon enough), John Robison was approaced by a member of Weishaupt's jesuit friendly Bavarian Illuminati group and asked to join Weishaupt's group. Robison blew the whistle after this recruiter let John know a few things about what was going on. So not only do Jesuits try to get university professors on their side, but sometimes, they even pose as normal people and take up positions in Universities such as professors or presidents of universities. And they also infiltrate protestant churches.

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Actually, what I want to know is how you drew the conclusion that Peres is a Vatican stooge, from the fact that Peres gave a Christian site to the Vatican. Can you explain the logic behind that?



So, there's no certainty that he worked for the Knights of Malta, and his connection to freemasonry is based on his medals. Then the fact that he helped create Roosevelt's OSS (which later became the CIA) with William Stephenson's assistance, is supposed to somehow further prove this.

However, I don't see freemasonry, Jesuits nor the Knights of Malta anywhere in that, and the medal thing seems to be reading too much into it, since it could mean a lot of things.



How do you know who's a "Knight of Malta" and who isn't? Also, I haven't seen anything about Stephenson helping to create the Mossad. Is anyone else besides Phelps saying any of this? Alberto Rivera and Jack Chick don't count.



It sounds more like secretive fraternities in Universities than the Universities themselves, even with a University like Georgetown. Since they're secretive, you can't really measure their relevance. Right now there doesn't seem to be any significance to Georgetown being a Jesuit University, nor to Jesuits at all.