Joined: Jun 27th, 2005 Posts: 31719 Location: Japan
Doesn't matter that IT was flying at all means it's a plane
What cit ignored http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1cT8WWt61eg And Dylan Avery is an idiot. His fourth guess is correct however they hit the pentagon with a plane. That would be based on I don't know, the plane size hole in the building all the... people on the plane being dead, witnesses seeing a plane go toward the pentagon and none seeing it fly away from it, and part of the fricking plane in the pentagon as well as DNA evidence of the passengers. The is no motive to use a missile or a fly over and no evidence for either one. All the speculation for both "theories" is based not on evidence for their claims but on ignorance of the evidence for the 757 hitting the pentagon. The reason they took the footage away is because it caught the secondary explosions one of which went off prematurely. And they are not going to release footage of the plane coming but not hitting because everyone would say why wont you show it actually hit then it easier to just confiscate it all and say classified.
They need to blame al qaeda for hijack planes rammed into buildings there is no reason NOT to ram a plane into the building then as they did in New York twice. As for the moron pilot if you did any 911 research you'd know those hijackers were based on stolen identities by the Israelis and had nothing to do with flying the planes. The planes were taken in via STA secured by Dov Zakheim and Britannia for SIAC which is also where good portion of the missing money is. It was no coincidence that the financial sector of the pentagon was physically wiped out by a plane and then bombs and two CFOs died on the plane then SECC is physically destroyed in WTC 7. They prevented an auit and covered the "missing" 2.3 trillion dollars which is actually used to finance the NSC's COG and their covert operation around the world. It's been that way since Iran COntra at least and they chose Iran contra white washers like Lee Hamilton to serve on the 911 commission as chairmen to cover it up as well.
You fly over/ missile retards need to provide something called evidence as well as logic. You can't just point to things YOU can't figure out about the plane and they there by I declare therefor it was X instead which has no supporting evidence at all.
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Post subject: Re: A plane hit the pentagon
Posted: Sun Jan 16, 2011 7:43 pm
Speaking out
Joined: Apr 20th, 2008 Posts: 181
Well since I don't have any new and revealing info I will leave you with permission to find Cheney and 'BookEm Dano'.
You guys really don't need a 3rd Pearl Harbor. Don't fight having to learn Chinese, don't sweat it as it is just a bookmark thing lol
Later Wayne
tyrant_killa
Post subject: Re: A plane hit the pentagon
Posted: Thu Jan 20, 2011 2:26 pm
Anti-Neocon novice
Joined: Dec 26th, 2010 Posts: 14 Location: Earth, The Sol System
My problem with not believing a plane was used at the Pentagon is that its mathmetically impossible. None of you have addressed this major problem.
The 767 airspeed max is 340 knots at sea level. This is a controllable flight limit for everyone including a computer. Therefore the airplane itself was not physically capable of making the maneuvers at said speeds. This is a known fact not an opinion. According to Occams Razor when you remove the impossible whats left no matter how improbable is most likely the correct answer.
Since it was impossible for a 767 to move as fast as it was known to have moved at the altitude it did it must have been something other than a 767.
I dont know what it was exactly but I know it couldnt have been a 767, as its PHYSICALLY IMPOSSIBLE to have flown the maneuvers it did at the speed it did. This is the point you continue to ignore. Its possible to have been another type of jet but thats pure speculation and also improbable. Improbable due to the motive: the robbery of 2 Trillion dollars. I imagine if someone was going to rob the Pentagon of 2 trillion dollars they wouldnt want to risk not hitting their target. Therefore to remove such risk would be to use something that has a low failure rate, probably something laser guided.
The sheer lack of crash evidence at ALL of the crash sites further compounds this point. Buildings have never eaten an airplane and airplane crashes have always left wreckage including EA990 that suffered structural failure due to excessive speed as a contributing factor in that crash.
What is the motive for using planes then? If you are going to have to use secondary explosions to finish off the job anyway due to the plane not being sufficient enough, why use a plane in the first place? Why not use something that would create the desired effect? Especially since using a 767 would be difficult if not impossible at any speed to hit the buildings at all. So again to remove risk of failure would be to use something laser guided.
All your theorys are moot unless you can explain how a 767 could violate a physical impossibility.
Ed
Post subject: Re: A plane hit the pentagon
Posted: Fri Jan 21, 2011 10:51 am
Smashing neocons
Joined: Aug 9th, 2007 Posts: 1951 Location: South Korea
Tyrant_killa. You say the maximum speed of a boeing 767 at sea level is 340 knots and therefore the plane that hit the pentagon could not be the same plane because of this. This is incorrect.
The maximum speed you give or that is listed for any airplane is the maximum safe speed. A plane can physically travel faster that these speeds at low altitude and is definitely not a physical impossibility. Do you really expect a plane to hit the given speed and it suddenly blows up like in the movie Speed or something? no, don't be silly. The plane cannot travel faster than these "maximum" speeds without overstressing. I also think it would take some time for the plane to really overstress. I've read about the flight path data and it seems they only really accelerated to maximum speed when it reached 2000ft up and from there it only took about 3 minutes to hit the pentagon. That sounds easily plausible to me.
anyway, the bottom line is that a plane the pentagon!
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tyrant_killa
Post subject: Re: A plane hit the pentagon
Posted: Tue Jan 25, 2011 1:19 pm
Anti-Neocon novice
Joined: Dec 26th, 2010 Posts: 14 Location: Earth, The Sol System
Its a controllable speed maximum. Which means according to Boeing the aircraft will become less controllable the faster it goes past that maximum. Additionally the engines can only turn so fast at sea level to generate enough thrust to even reach that maximum. Also the airframe can only withstand so much torque at sea level as demonstrated with the EA990 crash.
Curious, are you an expert jumbo jet pilot? or an aerospace engineer?
The bottom line is that the maneuvers and speeds reported on 9/11 for ALL of the aircraft are IMPOSSIBLE for a 767 to have accomplished manned or not.
Please prove me incorrect using something other than just your opinion.
Q'
Post subject: Re: A plane hit the pentagon
Posted: Tue Jan 25, 2011 2:49 pm
Protesting War
Joined: Oct 14th, 2006 Posts: 245
A flight demonstration done in Danube, Hungary. The plane flew at 240 km/h (160 mph) above see level (~200 metres). Note the land gears out for such manoeuvre. Note the noise of jet engine suggesting the air must be dense. 570 mph diving on such level cannot be done on sea level without breaking that commercial jet apart. To think about it, diving a commercial jet with nose down is a highly risking manoeuvre i.e. suicidal . In fact, commercial jet comes down with nose up to slow down meaning the speed is way below 400 km/h (248 mph). Aiming a structure at 35 feet high is frigging difficult even with remote and extremely risky because of big margin of errors. The impact of Pentagon with B767 is physically impossible unless it is Hollywood movie. It will be interesting for some people to fully reproduce the simulation with all physics on and try to fly a B767 at 10 metres (30 feet) sea level with 570 mph. It will not be surprise about the high level of failure.
Ry
Post subject: Re: A plane hit the pentagon
Posted: Tue Jun 07, 2011 9:18 pm
Super Anti-Neocon
Joined: Jun 27th, 2005 Posts: 31719 Location: Japan
the plane was not going 570 miles per hour thus that whole vid and rant was pointless.
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tyrant_killa
Post subject: Re: A plane hit the pentagon
Posted: Sun Jul 10, 2011 10:33 am
Anti-Neocon novice
Joined: Dec 26th, 2010 Posts: 14 Location: Earth, The Sol System
A 767 cant go 570 at sea level and thats the point.
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