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Holy shit, I would never have noticed that

hey that pic you posted, how come i dont see that specific frame in any of the pentagon videos?

i looked in the 9/11 truth websites and that is posted is this one. It looks like a frame is missing there.

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OK, Ry, I am listening. Now, could you please explain this fire in the same context as the whole video? This sorry excuse for a release of the Pentagram crash has already been proven beyond any shadow of doubt that it has been altered and photo-shopped. For God's dake, just look at the unnatural shadows present in the forefront of the first shot compared to all the others. It was clearly altered, so the whole thing is suspect and irrelevant. You should not rely on such obviously faulty data.

See, in a court of law if any testimony is proven false then ALL of the testimony is thrown out. Fool me once. I have no idea if there is a fire there or anywhere on this clip, because the entirety has been nullified. Very poor and sloppy work on your part.

You accused me of going to wild way-out sites and drinking their kool-aid, but the truth is I do not know how to upload videos or pics on this site. I will go anywhere that posts the photos I need to prove the point that physics do not support a 757 HEAVY hitting it. One's that I had verified, were on sites that were taken down just as mine was. I agree these sites that do still show verified photos are way out there, but I do not have access to any of my own that were on my site. Those mysteriously "disappeared" from archive.org. Don't believe me, then click on my 9/11 photos link and see what comes up. So many images have been lost, and since i had no way in 2003 to back up or restore, then it was lost after numerous root kits were inserted into the old P166. My site was on the web for 3 years, but only one survived and more is disappearing almost daily.

Just to let you know, there was a lot more going on than any of you know, but without the video and pictoral evidence, then I am just another nutjob. Trust me when i say, or don't, MUCH more was happening at the Pentagram and WTC1 and 2 than any truly can grasp. Mossad was there, yes, but proof exists that British forces and CIA were heavily involved as well that day. It is not just Zionist's, and dual citizens, but also directly involved MI-6/ISI assisted demolitions units that were in NYC 3 months prior. It is a lot bigger than even you know.

I am disappointed though that you fell back to such discredited disinfo as the officially released Pentagon/Bin Laden/ Adam Gadahn tapes for evidence of anything. Tim Osman has been dead for a loooong time, but lives on out of focus videotapes and software produced voice inducers.

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Having looking at the blueprint of 757 and 767, the latter is close to the impact. What other posters pointed out are the ground effect that will make the use of remote control difficult. I have suggested the possibility of disguised military drone, not missile. Given the fact there were military plane present to those scene hence Hercules C130, the limited speed of commercial jet (thanks to posters to highlight that information), the fact Bush administration immediately mention commercial jets prior of the crash to the Pentagon, transborder offline during 40 minutes, one can eliminate the use of commercial jet which leads to either missile or a disguised drone armed with missile. That probably explains the few number of wheels and jet engine. For those reason, I have to side with people like Pilot for 9/11.

Another question, if Flight 77 really crashed into the Pentagon, why the FBI spent so much effort to remove recorded tapes from all cameras to only release a incomplete frame sequence? Otherwise, FBI will not even bother.

It is better to take a break, clean mind and come back refreshed. Peace.

You guys are funny, looking at blue prints etc none of you know what the hell your talking about or can determine squat about it. There are pieces of a Boeing 757 in the building. The notion that the whole thing burned up is total bullshit as were the selected photos to conceal the large entry hole. There were plenty of lane parts found and they were of a 757 there is no mystery here.

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"Whenever any form of government becomes destructive of ... [Life, Liberty, and the pursuit of Happiness], it is the right of the people to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new government." –Thomas Jefferson

For the rare time, I will not side on your argument on this one. Should it really be B757, why FBI and other agencies wasted their energy to confiscate all recorded tapes from station that displayed that impact to only release an incomplete frame sequence? The entire video of B757 impact would be displayed 24 hours back then. The fact there is no available video only looked suspicious meaning something else impact the renovated Pentagon side that happened to include crucial information. You have not answered those issues yet switched to missiles instead of suggested jet powered drone.

Your conclusion is also in contradiction with:
http://pilotsfor911truth.org/pentagon.html
http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php? ... a&aid=6133

Key points from second link



So how can one jump to the conclusion B757 hit the Pentagon based on those above reports?

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Any demonstration with a heavier plane like commercial jet instead of fighter jet? Look at the Pentagon plan, the thickness of that wall prior to impact. As for the displayed pictures, fragments are suspicious especially the fourth picture. Possibly those debris are planted. Not far then was a Hercules C130 that I mentioned yet not discussed further. Perhaps that C130 was there to plant these debris. Second picture on second row should show big hole yet the wall and window frames still stand. Engine from B757 is heavy, look at the composition and material.

I don't claim to be an expert but based on reports from pilots and people who actually works on airport to maintain commercial jets, the entire B757 hitting Pentagon (initially announced by the Bush administration) is in doubt.