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 Post subject: OK this Litvinenko case has become insane
 Post Posted: Wed Feb 07, 2007 9:55 am 
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As we all know Alexander Litvinenko, was poisoned by polonium a rare radioactive multi-million dollar substance, and it was all blamed on Putin of Russia because Litvineko was a Putin critic.

The poisoning occurred in London. And it just so happened to be while Britain and Russia were on the verge of negotiating a new extradition treaty which would allow Russia to nab some of the very well know criminals who are hiding in the UK being protected by the London Money Powers such as the Israeli-Russian Boris Berezovsky, the former oligarch and media owner, and Ahmed Zakayev, the Chechen leader who was arrested in the UK got a 50,000GPB bail paid and then got political asylum.

Aside from the oh so coincidental extradition treaty being negotiated there are many things wrong with the Putin did it story. For one there is no motive, even with Litvinenko being a critic of Russia he was no threat whatsoever to Putin. The man worked with Chechen terrorists and the Israeli-Russian oligarchs. But just assuming that there was a sufficient motive to kill him, think about this: Why would Russia use a very rare, very expensive, and easily traceable radioactive substance to kill him instead of some cheap poison or just shooting him? Why risk smuggling radio active material into the UK which is an act of war?

That is exactly what the US media would have you believe. They want to say that Putin had someone sneak into the UK with polonium and poison Litvineko with it. HA HA what a crock. Well why would the American media side with the man who worked for terrorists and who worked for one of the oligarchs?

Well first off these "Russian" oligarchs are primarily Zionist Israeli-Russians who acquired much of their wealth and techniques from the Israeli Mossad agent Marc Rich. Secondly they have business relationships with the Bush administration. The Israeli-Russian Oligarch Khodorkosky had dealing with Cheney, the Carlyle group, and with UNACOL.

Boris Berezovsky is a business partner with none other than President Bush's brother Neil Bush. Boris invests in Neil's Ignite! computer software and Neil Bush met with Boris even after he was a known felon.

A little background. The oligarchs got there wealth mainly from well known rigged auctions under Yeltson. I went over it here.
One of the most wealthy oligarchs was Oligarch Khdorkovsky of Yukos oil. He was worth over 15 billion dollars rivaling Roman Abramovich the riches of them all. Khodorkosky was buying votes in the duma. Putin cracked down on the oligarchs forcing many to flee and arresting and throwing Khodorkosky in jail. He recently just had further charges placed on him to make his stay in jail all that much longer.

Also note that when they called for the arrest of the Yukos Oligarch Khodorkovsky (dork-o). Russia had the theatre attack where 108 people were gassed. Remember that not a one of the Chechen terrorists were Chechen, they were all mercenaries from private companies in the Israeli controlled areas of Africa. (We know that because the Russians killed them all and got the bodies most of them were from the Sudan none of the 32 people terrorists killed were Chechen.) How interesting is it that the so called Chechen attack their largest to date was caried out by private armies that involved Zero Chechens?!

Look at the Timelne.
On July 8th 2002 Putin cracked down on Khdorkovsky
On October 23, 2002 The Moscow theatre hostage crisis
On July 14, 2003 Khodorkovsky meets with Cheney and then Carlyle
On October 25, 2003, Khodorkovsky was arrested
(On March 20 2003 the US invaded Iraq...)

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The Asian Times reported "
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The Khodorkovsky arrest followed an unpublicized meeting earlier that year on July 14, 2003, between Khodorkovsky and Cheney. Following the Cheney meeting, Khodorkovsky began talks with ExxonMobil and ChevronTexaco, Rice's old firm, about taking a major state in Yukos, said to have been between 25% and 40%
"-Source

Note that Bush holds Stock in UNACOL who he set up in Afghanistan and that Condi Rice was (is?) on the BOD of Chevron-Texaco.

The Washington Post reported "Days before his October 2003 arrest on tax fraud charges, Khodorkovsky had entertained George H W Bush, the representative of the powerful and secretive Washington Carlyle Group in Moscow. They were discussing the final details of the US oil company share buy-in of Yukos. ...

Yukos had also just made a bid to acquire rival Sibneft from Boris Berezovsky, another Yeltsin-era oligarch. YukosSibneft, with 19.5 billion barrels of oil and gas, would then own the second-largest oil and gas reserves in the world after ExxonMobil. ...

YukosSibneft would be the fourth-largest in the world in terms of production, pumping 2.3 million barrels of crude oil a day. The Exxon or Chevron buy-up of YukosSibneft would have been a literal energy coup d'etat. Cheney knew it; Bush knew it; Khodorkovsky knew it.
Above all, Putin knew it and moved decisively to block it. ..."-link

Boris Berezovsky just so happens to be the Israeli-Russian oligarch who lives in London who Litvineko worked for. Here is the grand prize. After the US and UK press branded Putin with the poisoning despite there being Zero evidence, (something the US is very well known for now) investigators were tracking down the traces of polonium in the UK. They detected traces of Polonium at Berezovsky's office and residence! Now I do not know about you but in my place of work and certainly in my house I do not rare radio active substances. It is not something you just get at the market or pick up by accident walking through the park.

Later more traces were found on the planes that Litvineko had been on. So I think we can deduce what happened. The Israeli crony was smuggling in radio active polonuim into the UK (dirty bomb?) and got an overdose. That is going to look pretty bad because it is not a normal way to die and I think the most over looked and scary part of this story is that someone could get that stuff into the UK unnoticed! Invesitgators were going to trace it back to the culprits so what did they do? They blamed Putin and said that he was trying to poison them. Yegor Gaidar (the Prime Minister of Russia during the mass looting by the Oligarchs who is also dual citizen with Israel) had his daughter claim that he too might have been poisoned. That turned out to be BS. They need some way of explaining why this nasty junk seems to follow them around and why one of their henchmen dropped dead from it.

The only question is did Litvinenko die from exposure or was he killed because he had plans to double cross the oligarchs. Well he may or may not have had such plans and I saw that planted int the alternative media. But that does not make sense. The oligarchs could have just as easily killed him in a hundred different ways which would have cost less and not have been so traceable or use such a difficult substance. So I lean toward him just getting an overdose. Of course, I do remember which country killed thousands of its own people by radiation poisoning under the guile of a fake ringworm test, and that was Israel. I know where all of these oligarchs have their loyalties and how they were tied into the Mossad. I know who loves to use false flags and and already got into the Hariri case. And now we have the case of Ardeshir Hassanpour the nuclear scientist from Iran who was a target of the Mossad and recently died from radiation poisoning. Somebody is sending a signal out to people to let them know that hey we have nukes, and we can sneak radioactive meterial into your country. AKA we can hit you with DU and a variety of other nasty things, (possibly a dirty nuke) so do what we say.

Notice how this story which like the Anthrax story had a mass media blitz and then suddenly dropped off the face of the earth.

Do you smell what I smell? The fascist state of Israel..

Short answer: Russian Oligarch Boris Beresovsky employee Alexander Litvinenko died from over exposure to Polonium in a botched smuggling operation for Israel. That is why traces of it were at Boris's house and on the planes Litvinenko was riding to and from Israel. The smear on Putin/Russia using a highly traceable 10 million dollar poison to kill a critic is about as plausible and rational as saying we have "British Intelligence" about Niger.... This transparent bogus lie was a quick and shamelessly sloppy explanation to cover up how and why this man in the UK had a radio active poison in his body.

More over this is not the first time that Berezovsky tried to pin a murder on someone else and claim that all the damning evidence pointing to him was a frame. There are the notorious cases (in Russia) of Vlad Listyev and Ivan Listskevich.

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A break through. Remember Anna Politkovskaya? She was killed on Putin's birthday and the press and Paul Watsons types who fell for it tried to blame the murder on Putin. However I just discovered that Anna was journalist who had pubnlished three different articles on how SOMEONE was testing polonium on Chenchen children. Gee! where have we seen THAT scenario before? Anna's articles were published in the Novaya Gazeta in 2006 and she was killed October of that same year.

"Leonid Nevzlin, a former Yukos oil company shareholder and Russian exile currently living in Israel, told the Associated Press in late November that Litvinenko had given him a document related to a dossier on criminal charges made by Russian prosecutors against people connected to Yukos. Nevzlin, who is charged by Russian prosecutors with having organized killings, fraud and tax evasion, claimed Litvinenko's inquiries may have provided a motive for his poisoning"-source

Notice who else is in that Washington Post article and who was planting the ideas that Putin had killed both Litvineko and Anna. How crazy is that to use polonium to murder someone...Scaramella is a rotten one.

I said on November 29th 2006 that Andrei Lugovoi was the one who did it. Andrei Lugovoi was a security officer for Yegor Gaidar the former PM of Russia during the oligarch looting, who also claimed to have been poisoned. Everything these Zionists say is the reverse. Black is white and white is black. So when he says someone else poisoned him, it was he who had someone else poisoned. Lugovoi then went to work for Boris at ORT.

Well well well on Jan 27, 2007 a British paper reported that the UK is preparing to extradition request to bring back Lugovoi and have him stand trial for the murder of Litvineko. Even better is talk of a swap exchanging Lugovoi for Boris something the Russians would certainly take.

Lugovoi has worked for a couple different oligarchs. He is not worried about being put on trial because he knows that it will not happen. He laughed at the news.

I still am not convinced that he poisoned him (although if he was then that is the most logical answer as to who did it). I think he was just a partner in the smuggling operation and that is why he was on the same planes and in the same meetings. Livineko's poisoning is not the most important thing, (the media spin is the bigger story) be it on purpose or by mistake, his death was blamed on Putin and the Mass media hung Putin out to dry despite there not being any evidence or logic behind to alleged murder. They American meida has also ignored the evidence showing Boris was involved and there is n oway in Hell they would go into his background or who the Russian oligarchs even are. Most America think Russia was torn apart by communism and an expensive arms race, that's the classic crap one is fed in school. They have never even heard of the Oligrach despite

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I never believed communism caused the fall of the Soviet empire, but I've always believed the financially crippling arms race had something to do with it. If you believe that's false Ry, then what is your opinion as to the cause?

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Oh the arms race was a player. However what happened was more of the US and Europe giving loans to China to pay off their debt to Russia and be in debt to the US and Europe but at lower interest because the debt was divided over many nations and currencies rather than being one currency and one big sum. Nations like debter nations because they can exploit their resources. And when Russia got all this cash so fast the value of their currentcy dropped. Russia could not trade openly with nearly anyone because of the block against communism. There were a lot of things that contributed to the fall but the largest factor without question was during the transition. Switching to a capitalist economy was in theory a good move however the welath just went from the state to the oligarchs. State capitalism just became a plutocracy. It was too easy for the West to gobble up Russian assets for cheap because of the difence in purchasing power and stability between the currentcies. Also Yeltson's or more accurately Yegor's auctions were rigged and the Israeli-oligarchs in Russia ended up with everything. As monopolies they resold what they robbed for unheard of prices and then used that money to keep control over key resources like oil and metals and most importantly media.

The US actually wanted an arms race. They loved the cold war with Russia because it acted as the pretext to shove so much money into the intelligence agencies and MIC. They also causes arms races in India and Pakistan and really all over the world with Russia and the US's MICs making money off of everyone else who bought weapons from them out of fear. It was like the old subsidary alliance system of the Christians selling guns to everyone else when they were new in exchange for conversion (aka more money making institutions also known as churches) and lopsided trade. Everyone had to comply because if they didn't they knew the "missionaries" would give the guns to their neighbors. In Africa they even used the same plot to have one group capture another to sell slaves because the whites could not go into the interior because of Maleria. Same shit slightly larger scale.

Russia took Russia down. The Banks took her down. Aside from the Nukes Russia was a paper tiger. They never had enough capital esp after 5 wars in a row Japan, WWI, the Red and White War, WWII, and Afghanistan plus proxy wars. They were teetering the entire time. remeber that Russia lost more than anyone else in the world wars.

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8) Cool maaaan. Very informative.. nice summary of the whole shit.


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Interesting you say that Litivenko was working for an zionist oligarch, I mean the guy was a muslim? he was also very good friends with the Chechen leader Ahmed Zakayev. Infact he was pro-chechen and anti-russian. I like your write-up Ry but I don't think it decisive or correct.

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They're coming out with a movie about litvenko, i guess to reenforce the "Putin Did It" Theory. Watch their going portray the assholes that killed him as brave and heroic.

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Interesting you say that Litivenko was working for an zionist oligarch, I mean the guy was a muslim? he was also very good friends with the Chechen leader Ahmed Zakayev. Infact he was pro-chechen and anti-russian. I like your write-up Ry but I don't think it decisive or correct.


That is where I think you might not understand something. Russia under Putin is THE biggest threat to the Zionists. He chased the Oligarchs out and he is supporting Iran. The so called Chechen attacks on the Russian theatre were ALL Mercenaries we know because the Russians killed them and found the bodies most of them were from the Sudan.

It does not matter what his religion was. On the top all religions are the same, the religion of money. Back in the day, Christians and Muslims agreed on one thing, to bring down Russia and both fought against Russia including Afghanistan with Saudi and American money (Christian and Muslim). Godlessness was more an enemy than different gods. The sloganeering for each American war with "communism" was kill a commie for Christ.

And yes they are making a movie that is why we have to expose this Before that comes out. I mean come on, why use such a strange expensive poison instead of a ten cent bullet? And Litvineko DID work for Zionist Oligarchs because they had the common enemy of Russia.

This Islam VS the West Paradigm is Bullshit. Saudi Arabia, Jordan, Egypt, Pakistan and a load of "Muslim" nations aid the US and Israel. It is not a war with Islam. They just use that shit to recruit Christian troops in the US. If Islam were a united front nobody could mess with it. Likewise the "West" is not together either it's really just about 31% of America. We are lucky that Russia and Germany ect are not part of it.

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