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 Post Posted: Fri Nov 30, 2007 3:12 pm 
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You guys have got to be fuckinh shitting me. "I love michael moore" uhg, yall are making me sick.

what part of MORE GOVERNMENT POWER = MORE CORRUPTION do you NOT UNDERSTAND?

and you all support Ron Paul?

I mean I don't expect any individual who thinks for themselves to agree with ALL of ANY candidates decisions, but I at least expected more people to criticize this bullshit propaganda.

I mean has anyone ever heard of PERSONAL RESPONSIBILITY? Or CHARITY? I give money to charities that help people with medical problems but it is VERY wrong for the government to STEAL our money for the benefit of someone else.

I am disappointed in the lack of this comparably simple understanding of this.

And I can't believe anyone with morals would defend someone who has stock in horrible corporations like halliburton or companies in the military industrial complex. (Now I do not know that it's true or not if michael moore does, but I wouldn't be suprised).

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sorry about the rant, but I had to get that out!


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 Post Posted: Fri Nov 30, 2007 4:08 pm 
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Does anyone have any concrete evidence that MM holds stock in Haliburton? I've never seen enough proof to be convinced. Before accusing him of this, there should be more evidence than Alex Jones! I don't agree with MM politically, but about half the US population has socialist beliefs and I am not about to demonize someone for having different beliefs than I have.

It took me a long time to realize that small government = less chance of corruption. Most people have socialist beliefs because they believe that's the more ethical route to justice for all. I disagree with that approach, but I still think the underlying sentiment CAN BE well meaning. I'm not about to make everyone who disagrees with Ron Paul my enemy. That is just high school mentality.

Now if the socialists among us could wake up and stop believing the propaganda, maybe they'd support someone who isn't a war party puppet. Die hard socialists will NEVER support Paul, but Kucinich and Gravel are at least true to their convictions (and have them!)

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I still think Michael Moore is a douche.

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 Post Posted: Fri Nov 30, 2007 4:38 pm 
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His biggest crime is not speaking out against Israel. He's a weeny boy for that.

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 Post Posted: Fri Nov 30, 2007 10:03 pm 
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I dont support socialism at all. I just liked the use of bio fuel for energy instead of burning the coal. And rehabillitating prisoners instead of locking them cages and spendig tens of thousands of dollars on each one just to sit in a cell, all that money is pork and the prison system is a business thats why so many go to jail for drugs, eachone locked up is money for the court/laywer/ and prison system.

As for Healthcare I sure do like the system we have in Japan a lot better than what I had in the US.

But of all the options out there I like Ron Paul's system the best.

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 Post Posted: Fri Nov 30, 2007 10:20 pm 
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Guys if you wanna find out if something's true or not generally all you have to do is type the sentence or some key words of the claim into Google & see if you can find documentation for it. I've found out tons of stuff this way. Any time someone makes a claim w/no source link just Google it. Here's what I found though:

This is a very pro-neocon & thus evil website but it does report factual information from time to time such as Corsi's articles that expose the North American Union (the only good thing he's ever done). The actual document that supposedly proves Moore's investment in Halliburton is not listed but claimed to be within the book. This one comment I found from a guy on [url=Where's the fact in this claim? Point me to it. But DO NOT point me to another "buy my crap" link. It just smells like a scam to me (the book cover even looks like a tabloid cover).]a different site[/url] where the article was reposted makes a good point:

"All I've seen by Googling Michael Moore, stock , Halliburton, is the same thing:

1. It points to one set of qutoes by Schweizer, saying the same exact quotes, and ultimately points to:
2. A link for to buy Schweizer's book

I'm not going to buy a book just to see "proof"

Where's the fact in this claim? Point me to it. But DO NOT point me to another "buy my crap" link. It just smells like a scam to me (the book cover even looks like a tabloid cover).

Maybe the claim is true... If so, show us the money"

The book (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Do_as_I_Say_(Not_as_I_Do):_Profiles_in_Liberal_Hypocrisy) also makes this claim: "Noam Chomsky has made a reputation for calling America a police state and branding the Pentagon "the most hideous institution on earth," yet his entire academic career, writes Schweizer, has been subsidized by the U.S. military."

"Notable issues that Schweizer addresses in the work are Noam Chomsky's acceptance of money from prominent institutions whose policies he opposes (such as the Pentagon), living in an expensive home, and his visitation of socialist states such as Cuba. Schweizer, in the rest of the work, makes similarly-toned accusations against individuals the book focuses on, particularly surrounding political issues such as environmentalism, labor, and taxation. After the book's publication Chomsky talked to Schweizer about his creation of a trust fund for his daughters and grandchildren.[1] In Schweizer's follow up discussion with Chomsky, Schweizer reveals that even though Chomsky abhors corporations and refers to them as "fascist", Chomsky's own retirement fund is invested in large capitalization NYSE companies and the TIAA-CREF stock fund. Schwiezer points out: "A look at the stock fund portfolio quickly reveals that it invests in all sorts of businesses that Chomsky says he finds abhorrent: oil companies, military contractors, pharmaceuticals, you name it."

The problem with the mainline left/right people is they're all hypocrites & thus able to demoralize each other in the public eye & make legitimate issues seem invalid. & it's probably set up that way, all while the people continue to suffer.


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Dave wrote:
Guys if you wanna find out if something's true or not generally all you have to do is type the sentence or some key words of the claim into Google & see if you can find documentation for it. I've found out tons of stuff this way. Any time someone makes a claim w/no source link just Google it.


Umm, thanks for stating the bloody obvious Dave. :P I've already googled the Haliburton rumor. I need more proof than right wing talk show hosts and Alex Jones to condemn the guy for something so heinous and hypocritical as that.

Norway is a wonderful place. Being a smaller country helps for sure, but the US could learn a lot from that system. Especially their way of dealing with criminals. Don't throw the baby out with the bathwater. Even someone as evil and immoral as MM can come up with pretty good stuff. :roll:

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Norway relies on huge oil reserves to fund its lavish wal-fare state. Norway is third behind Saudi Arabia and Russia in export of oil. With a pop of less than 5 million to share it with. Sweden was once hailed for making a perfect balance between an autonomous market solution and government social safety nets. But like all socialist institutions, input diminished and output grew and Sweden was forced to change.

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