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 Post subject: Re: What if the Holocaust is as full of lies as modern war p
 Post Posted: Fri Nov 18, 2011 6:10 am 
 
wise old man

sorry ry - my mistake - thot you meant irving

wise old man is zan overall and he is part of the group that does this website

http://rediscover911.com/

you can contact them from that page


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 Post Posted: Fri Nov 18, 2011 8:15 am 
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I already can contact irving, I was wanting to contact the old guy in the videos and bring him into our circle. I went to that site and wrote them a short note about WBD and I also contacted his youtube page.

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 Post Posted: Fri Nov 18, 2011 10:07 am 
 
re: wom vids - atzmon call the "living in fear of what might happen"

"pre traumatic stress disorder"


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I haven't gotten into this thread yet, just wanted to add something that might be of interest. (yet you probably already know)

http://www.ibmandtheholocaust.com/
IBM and the Holocaust is the stunning story of IBM's strategic alliance with Nazi Germany -- beginning in 1933 in the first weeks that Hitler came to power and continuing well into World War II. As the Third Reich embarked upon its plan of conquest and genocide, IBM and its subsidiaries helped create enabling technologies, step-by-step, from the identification and cataloging programs of the 1930s to the selections of the 1940s.

Only after Jews were identified -- a massive and complex task that Hitler wanted done immediately -- could they be targeted for efficient asset confiscation, ghettoization, deportation, enslaved labor, and, ultimately, annihilation. It was a cross-tabulation and organizational challenge so monumental, it called for a computer. Of course, in the 1930s no computer existed.

But IBM's Hollerith punch card technology did exist. Aided by the company's custom-designed and constantly updated Hollerith systems, Hitler was able to automate his persecution of the Jews. Historians have always been amazed at the speed and accuracy with which the Nazis were able to identify and locate European Jewry. Until now, the pieces of this puzzle have never been fully assembled. The fact is, IBM technology was used to organize nearly everything in Germany and then Nazi Europe, from the identification of the Jews in censuses, registrations, and ancestral tracing programs to the running of railroads and organizing of concentration camp slave labor.

IBM and its German subsidiary custom-designed complex solutions, one by one, anticipating the Reich's needs. They did not merely sell the machines and walk away. Instead, IBM leased these machines for high fees and became the sole source of the billions of punch cards Hitler needed.

IBM and the Holocaust takes you through the carefully crafted corporate collusion with the Third Reich, as well as the structured deniability of oral agreements, undated letters, and the Geneva intermediaries -- all undertaken as the newspapers blazed with accounts of persecution and destruction.

Just as compelling is the human drama of one of our century's greatest minds, IBM founder Thomas Watson, who cooperated with the Nazis for the sake of profit.

Only with IBM's technologic assistance was Hitler able to achieve the staggering numbers of the Holocaust. Edwin Black has now uncovered one of the last great mysteries of Germany's war against the Jews -- how did Hitler get the names?


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http://ca.finance.yahoo.com/q/bc?s=IBM
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A good vid -covers free speech/jewish persecution (in both directions)/how free germany is and more


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I recently tried showing More Than Taboo to a casually Jewish Ron Paul supporter who happens to be one of my best friends. I told him to keep a completely open mind and just look at the evidence, he kept freaking out. "DO YOU REALLY THINK ANY OF THIS? DO YOU BELIEVE THAT SHIT ABOUT THE WELL POISONING AS WELL?!?" then he'd gather himself and realize his ridiculous emotional response. I'd calm him down and let him know that I wasn't against him or Jews but rather it was a look at all reasonable evidence. We got about half-way through it. I'm hoping we can finish it sometime soon without scaring him off. He was amazed by how he couldn't control his response, it even freaked him out a bit. Maybe I should've started with something a little more subtle like Peace Propaganda and the Promised Land..

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Im shocked he controlled it at all. he is already way above others in that reguard. The holocaust defines modern Jews. Its also used over and over not only to justify WWII but also all the interventions after it. I for one am glad 6 million jews were not burned alive or gassed. I take it as good news.

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 Post Posted: Fri Nov 25, 2011 1:21 am 
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Stay clear of Irving. His research has been exposed as nonsense by other revisionists and he seems to be a compromised pedophile.


Suffering Fools Gladly by by Dr. Karl Kolcheck
http://www.davidirving.8m.com/

Irving a pedophile according to Alexander Baron's research
http://www.thebirdman.org/Index/NetLoss ... rving.html

Neil Turner a UK politician said the same thing around 36 minutes
http://i am the witness.com/DarylBradfordSmithInterviewsNeilTurner.html

David Irving covers up Israeli role in 9-11 and Kennedy assassination?
http://www.public-action.com/pretenders/irving.html
THIS IS A REALLY BIG LITMUS TEST IN MY OPINION. AND IRVING FAILED WITH FLYING COLOURS AS YOU WILL SEE!

Salvador Astucia is the man. Aside from Hufschmid and Smith. he was the only one telling the truth about Bollyn about how Michael Piper and AFP turned on him when wingtv (Jewish psyop) got on Bollyn's case about his assault in 2006. And of course we had BOC's enemies Poseidon and James Linton towing the wingtv line calling Bollyn a liar. S.S. exposes the Lennon assassination, the Kennedy assassination, 9-11 and others. In fact Bollyn had a supporter in Astucia who although new on the scene, was just unleashing years of his research and was quick to spot fakes in the american patriot community. The AFP being one of them.
http://www.erichufschmid.net/TFC/Bollyn ... 1_Nov.html

Irving reminds me of David Duke. Both these guys are controlled because they have something to be blackmailed over. Even Eustace Mullins exposed David Duke and John Kaminski before.
http://opposingdigits.com/forums/about2945-0-asc-0.html
As for Duke, Mullins said one time Duke told him he would raise money to bring Mullins to a EURO heritage conference. Mullins went, didn't get a dime and duke kept it all. Mullins said Duke was an alcoholic and womanizer. And Duke may have been filmed in jail engaging in sex with black men according to some sources. Duke was KKK grand wizard in his youth. To me that's an alarm bell signifying freemasonry. Now if all the above is true about Irving and Duke, wouldn't that explain why they get on mainstream television all the time and magazines like TIME? Duke was on the cover of TIME and has been on mainstream television live, allowed to talk with no interruption. Least of all the 2006 holocaust conference in Tehran. Why would mega mossad Wolf Blitzer give this guy any air time at all? Why was David irving's arrest in Austria given so much notice? Why is Irving a more familiar name than Zundel? Because Zundel is NOT a homosexual or pedophile and he never dealt in fake documents or demographic fraud like Irving seems to have done. Zundel could not be blackmailed. Is that why they tried to kill Zundel twice in Toronto and have never thought to murder Irving? Why is it that Irving was let out of jail in Austria before his three years were up and Zundel and Germar Rudolf had to serve their full sentences? Why was Zundel was kidnapped from America, held in Canada gulag style with a kangaroo court before being taken to Germany? Why was Rudolf hunted down and put in jail? Why is Rudolf's name not known like Irving's and Duke's? How long to I have to keep asking rhetorical questions hoping you'll see what should be obvious. Because those guys are compromised and can be blackmailed while Zundel and Rudolf can not. Keep in mind BOTH Zundel and Rudolf have hinted at dis-satisfaction with the way Mark Weber ran the IHR. Or rather DIDN'T run it. Study all the information at hand before you go dismissing these rhetorical questions and my answers please. No insults. No fallacious ad hominems, please.


Mark Weber conspires to sell mailing lists to ADL.
http://www.vho.org/GB/c/TOK/Whistleblower.html

Germar Rudolf attacks IHR and Weber.
http://www.vho.org/GB/c/GR/IHRCrisis.html



By the way guys, I used to post at codoh under Drew J. I got into a debate about the Talmud with Andrew Mathis and it went on too long and I was banned. I came back as Werd. I hadn't posted anything for about four days. Now I tried six times to log in tonight and it didn't work. Before that, a few weeks ago, they were deleting the information I just gave above that I was posting on that board. Now suddenly I log in and I see a page for three seconds telling me I am logged in. Then it automatically sends me to the main page on the codoh board and I'm no longer logged in. I wonder if it's a technical problem, or someone finally had enough of me. Although I was a good boy ever since I had my anti Irving stuff deleted weeks ago and just towed the revisionist line, which I agree with not completely, but a whole hell of a lot. So I am dumbfounded. But nevertheless, if Germar Rudolf is attacking Weber and the IHR, then you guys better pay attention.

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