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 Post subject: Who are the Zionists?.............
 Post Posted: Sun Apr 26, 2009 9:16 am 
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Many here are "anti-Zionists" but they don't even know how they came about.

Back in the 13th century there was a race of people in Central Asia called the Khazar, because there was a war between the Christians and the Muslims the Khazar wanted to remain neutral so that they imported some teachers from the Middle East in order to learn how to become Jews.

In the 15th century they lost their kindom and they wen to to Norther Europe, to northern Russia and Poland.........in 1872 a Khazar Jew by the name of Herzel decided that their people needed another country of their own and after looking around for many years they decided on Palestine and that was when in 1897 the Zionist movement was founded.

Because Herzel din't agree with the party he was eliminated a couple of years later........

Those people are giving the "real" Jews of the Bible a bad rap and all that they are doing is to hide behind the word "Jew" to do their bad deeds.

The more that I read the more that I learn about those people, I only wished that the rest of the world knew what I now know...

By the way, in March 24 of 1933 the "Jews" declared an economical war on Germany......and you wonder as to why Herr Hitler was pissed off at them?

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 Post subject: Re: Who are the Zionists?.............
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It has nothing to do with who was born where, bloodlines, or anything like that.
Zionism is a political ideology heavily influenced by the extremist beliefs of a racially fascist religion. They believe Gawd awarded land to his chosen people (themselves) and thus they a have the right to kill everyone else on it because according to them that is what god wants.

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 Post subject: Re: Who are the Zionists?.............
 Post Posted: Sat May 09, 2009 6:29 pm 
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as usual wikipedia is full of shit. Any one can edit that thing.

Zionism is a POLITCAL ideology which believes that Palestine, all of it, belongs to Israel to be rule as an ethnic state by the Jews, who Zionist believe are the chosen RACE of God. They don't have to be Jewish to be Zionist.

It is well fit in the interest of the military industrial complex to foster this insanity because of all the conflict that religious fighting creates, they can milk it for every penny/sheckle.

There are problem with this because
1 God does not exist
2 Jews only exist by self proclamation and have no real historic genetic of scientific origin because the fairy tales about Abraham and Adam and Eve etc are just bull shit.
3 And it doesn't matter who all used to live in Palestine or when. Because no matter what, there is just no moral case to wipe out a people.

The only thing that makes them Jewish is their own belief in Judaism and the equally stupid belief by those not of the faith who still believe that just being born to someone who believed as long as it's their mom, makes them Jewish as if it was a race. It's not a race, it's a multitude of peoples most white people and Arabs.

Jews live all over the world just like atheists. They don't have to have homeland just for their kind of people but they do. Zionist could happen to be Jewish or they could be Christian or whatever so long as they hold the political belief that Israel as a nation belongs to an ethnicity and that the Jews in Israel can continue to steal the land around Israel and claim it as their own.

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 Post subject: Re: Who are the Zionists?.............
 Post Posted: Sun May 10, 2009 12:42 pm 
 
What characterizes all zionists is that at some point, usually when they are children, they get the zionist indoctrination that they are the chosen people and that other races are inferior. There's much more to it than that, but that's it in a nutshell. What's also important is the closed nature of jewish communities, so that they don't get exposure to other ideas and must have a lot of pressure to conform to zionist dogma.


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 Post subject: Re: Who are the Zionists?.............
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of course jews started zionism but anyone can be a zionist because all it means is that you support it as a political ideology.

and jews are not a race:
viewtopic.php?p=99818#p99818

sephardi jewish populations originate from portugal/spain, ashkenazis from eastern europe.... and then there are Ethiopian Jews. they are not more a collective "race" anymore than say Germans and Iranians.

and pffft... don't get me started on wikipedia. so what if it is well-monitored and kept updated??? that doesn't equate to being factually accurate. The people who keep it updated are volunteers, who generally have devoted their time to a particular subject.

Universities actually advise students against using wikipedia because it is so full of shit.

Besides Jews say that Jewishness is somehow 'passed' through the mother which is nothing more than a religious fantasy. This is not how race is defined in the real world. Jews would say that my friend is technically Jewish and has right of return to Israel because his mother's mother was Jewish, depsite the fact his father is of Italian origin. He has ginger hair too, how middle-eastern, how semitic lol.

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 Post subject: Re: Who are the Zionists?.............
 Post Posted: Mon May 11, 2009 9:55 pm 
 
MonkeySeeMonkeyDo wrote:
Calling this just a "Zionist" problem is completely missing the point, and it fails to answer this question...


I have struggled with what to call them - by them I mean all jews involved in criminal behavior, the bankers, the Israeli settlers, owners of the media, etc.. While certain jews are not known as being zionists as such they are working for the jewish criminal cabal and I call them Zionists. It's not strictly true about all of them but the word is harsh and sounds criminal, so it is good to use. Just using jews tends to sound racist, but I say fuck it, I would say most jews have at least some sympathy for the zionist cause so it is not a bad label. If anyone challenges that word we can point out a long list of jewish criminality and the fact that we could care less what their race is.


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 Post subject: Re: Who are the Zionists?.............
 Post Posted: Tue May 12, 2009 9:17 am 
 
Tim wrote:
They're Jews, plain and simple. But let's not lump the minority of Jews who are against Zionism in that same category.


What do you think about calling them ( the criminal ones ) zionists even though not all of them are strictly speaking zionists? One of the good things about this label is that it does not include anyone not engaged in criminal behaviour while including most of the bad guys.


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 Post subject: Re: Who are the Zionists?.............
 Post Posted: Tue May 12, 2009 9:33 am 
 
MonkeySeeMonkeyDo wrote:
They are a tiny minority that really doesn't try very hard to be against Zionism other than having a little photo op with a sign saying "rabbis against zionism", or whatever. ... I do have respect for the ones who chose not to serve in the IDF and such, but it's hard to believe that it is not just another ploy by the Jews to create a little more sympathy in the midst of all their crimes being committed in Gaza at the moment. They have done these publicity stunts in the past.


Those statements imply that they're all bad which is not true. They're just people, some of them are good and some of them are bad with lots of grey areas in between. Jews that are truly against what zionists are doing like former IDF soldiers and those anti-zionist rabbi's do not cause people like us or even lefties that dislike what is being done in the name of zionism, to have more sympathy for the zionists. You need to separate those sincere protest against zionism from the dishonest attempts to gain sympathy, such as bringing up the holocaust constantly.

MonkeySeeMonkeyDo wrote:
I mean, how is one supposed to trust any of them after seeing this kind of behavior over and over.


You have to judge people as individuals, not as part of a group. To judge them as all the same is not only unfair but undermines those who are truly fighting against zionism.


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