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Post subject: Albert Einstein: Plagiarist of the Century? Posted: Sun Apr 26, 2009 7:20 am |
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Post subject: Re: Albert Einstein: Plagiarist of the Century? Posted: Mon Apr 27, 2009 9:11 am |
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He was not a Zionist or a socialist but he was a plagirist. He rejected the offer of prime minister to Israel. He said having a zionist state was as stupid as having a zionist chair of zionist bus. I read his whole bio, I don't remember anywhere him supporting Stalin. In fact the reason he left to the US was because he hated Europe (on all sides) for all its wars and nationalism.
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Post subject: Re: Albert Einstein: Plagiarist of the Century? Posted: Mon Apr 27, 2009 10:33 am |
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Ry I have a book by Einstein called Ideas and Opinions. This is a collection of some of his writings. On page 151 there is a chapter called "Why Socialism" it is taken "from Monthly Reiview, New York, May 1949". He completely supports socialism in this article and criticizes capitalism. Here are some excerpts: "I am convinced that there is only ONE way to eliminate these grave evils, namely through the establishment of a socialist economy, accompanied by an educational system which would be oriented towards social goals."
And this: "The economic anarchy of capitalist society as it exists today is, in my opinion, the real source of the evil."
You are wrong about him not being a zionist too.
On page 188 is a chapter called "Our Debt to Zionism" and then this preface:"From an address on the occasion of the celebration of the "Third Seder", by the National Labor Committee for Palestine, at the Commodore Hotel in New York City, April 17, 1938. Published in New Palestine, Washington, D.C.: April 28, 1938
The article shows him to be a zionist, no question about it. In fact a whole section of the book proves it. Here are some excerpts:
"We meet today because of our concern for the development of Palestine. In this hour one thing, above all, must be emphasized: Judaism owes a great debt of gratitude to Zionism"
"Fields cultivated by day must have armed protection at night against fanatical Arab outlaws."
"Anti-Semitism has always been the cheapest means employed by selfish minorities for deceiving the people"
On page 171 in another chapter:
Dear Mr. Hellpach:
"I have read your article on Zionism and the Zurich Congress and feel, as a strong devotee of the Zionist idea, that I must answer you, even if only shortly."
I could go on and on. He basically calls for a world government in this book too, and probably did explicitly, I just have not read this book for a long time.
And here's more from the self described pacifist from page 165:
"My part in producing the atomic bomb consisted in a single act: I signed a letter to President Roosevelt, pressing the need for experiments on a large scale in order to explore the possibilities for the production of an atomic bomb."
In fairness he did state: "I should much rather see reasonable agreement with the Arabs on the basis of living together in peace than the creation of a Jewish state." Sounds like Obama to me, pretty smooth, of course he can't act like a raving zionist, he's Saint Einstein after all.
And I could be wrong but I doubt it, but I've heard in a number of places that he did whitewash what Stalin was doing, and basically supported him. I'll look into and I bet I come back here with the proof.
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Post subject: Re: Albert Einstein: Plagiarist of the Century? Posted: Mon Apr 27, 2009 3:18 pm |
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No when Zionism first started out it really was supposed to be about the liberation of the Jewish people. Later it became jewish supremacy and religious prophecy about god granting land to the jews. Einstein supported helping the jews or any other religious minority he himself was an atheist. But he did ot support Israel not after it quickly became what it did and rejected the offer of becoming the first prime minister.
And Socialism is NOT what Stalin was doing. Stalin was murdering people for the sake of rapid industrialization. Supporting socialism is not the same thing as sporting Stalin. It's would be like saying supporting capitalism means you support Bush and Obama. Although Obama is more like a communist you get the point.
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Post subject: Re: Albert Einstein: Plagiarist of the Century? Posted: Mon Apr 27, 2009 3:57 pm |
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Ry wrote: And Socialism is NOT what Stalin was doing. Stalin was murdering people for the sake of rapid industrialization. Supporting socialism is not the same thing as sporting Stalin. It's would be like saying supporting capitalism means you support Bush and Obama. Although Obama is more like a communist you get the point. I didn't say anything about socialism as it related to Stalin, I simply said in a post that Einstein was a socialist. And then you said he was not a socialist and I showed you he was. My comment about him supporting Stalin was a separate issue and not related to proving he was a socialist, and I agree obviously what was going on in Stalinist Russia was not really socialism. I also stated that Einstein was a zionist, and you said he wasn't and I proved to you he was. Regardless of what was considered a zionist at that time, I was correct in saying he was a zionist. I will look into what you said about zionism being something almost good, but it seems pretty questionable to me, by 1948 they were already butchering palestinians and I believe in the decades before the war they were already forcing the natives off their land.
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Post subject: Re: Albert Einstein: Plagiarist of the Century? Posted: Mon Apr 27, 2009 4:32 pm |
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I dont know much about Einstein's life or political views. When I studied him, it was solely physics. The only quote I recall of Albert Einstein is: "It would be my greatest sadness to see Zionists (Jews) do to Palestinian Arabs much of what Nazis did to Jews." Albert Einstein
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Post subject: Re: Albert Einstein: Plagiarist of the Century? Posted: Mon Apr 27, 2009 5:19 pm |
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Einstein was a zionist. He later abrogated what he said previously and became anti zionist and going as far as being anti nationalist.
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Post subject: Re: Albert Einstein: Plagiarist of the Century? Posted: Mon Apr 27, 2009 6:19 pm |
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What I was saying was that if Socialism was Stalin then he wasn't a socialist. Social skills with a small s is different than socialism too. The US did adopt a lot of socialism, (post office, police, fire fighters, public schools, etc) it's not the same thing as communism. He moved to the US and became a teacher and gave speeches all over the world. He was a fan of capitalism. What he hated was nationalism that was after nearly starving to death and living through two world wars. Einstein is (unfairly) upheld as one of the smartest men in history. Thus the Zionist love to spin him to their cause. He was only a Zionist when Zionism meant protecting Jewish Culture (and he wasn't even religious) Once it became Jewish Fascism thanks in large part to American Christian fascist, he hated it. Einstein Letter Warning Of Zionist Facism In IsraelLetter That Albert Einstein Sent to the New York Times 1948, Protesting the Visit of Menachem Begin 11-1-4 Quote: Letters to the Editor New York Times December 4, 1948 TO THE EDITORS OF THE NEW YORK TIMES: Among the most disturbing political phenomena of our times is the emergence in the newly created state of Israel of the "Freedom Party" (Tnuat Haherut), a political party closely akin in its organization, methods, political philosophy and social appeal to the Nazi and Fascist parties. It was formed out of the membership and following of the former Irgun Zvai Leumi, a terrorist, right-wing, chauvinist organization in Palestine. The current visit of Menachem Begin, leader of this party, to the United States is obviously calculated to give the impression of American support for his party in the coming Israeli elections, and to cement political ties with conservative Zionist elements in the United States. Several Americans of national repute have lent their names to welcome his visit. It is inconceivable that those who oppose fascism throughoutthe world, if correctly informed as to Mr. Begin's political record and perspectives, could add their names and support to the movement he represents. Before irreparable damage is done by way of financial contributions, public manifestations in Begin's behalf, and the creation in Palestine of the impression that a large segment of America supports Fascist elements in Israel, the American public must be informed as to the record and objectives of Mr. Begin and his movement. The public avowals of Begin's party are no guide whatever to its actual character. Today they speak of freedom, democracy and anti-imperialism, whereas until recently they openly preached the doctrine of the Fascist state. It is in its actions that the terrorist party betrays its real character; from its past actions we can judge what it may be expected to do in the future. Attack on Arab Village A shocking example was their behavior in the Arab village of Deir Yassin. This village, off the main roads and surrounded by Jewish lands, had taken no part in the war, and had even fought off Arab bands who wanted to use the village as their base. On April 9 (THE NEW YORK TIMES), terrorist bands attacked this peaceful village, which was not a military objective in the fighting, killed most of its inhabitants ? 240men, women, and children - and kept a few of them alive to parade as captives through the streets of Jerusalem. Most of the Jewish community was horrified at the deed, and the Jewish Agency sent a telegram of apology to King Abdullah of Trans-Jordan. But the terrorists, far from being ashamed of their act, were proud of this massacre, publicized it widely, and invited all the foreign correspondents present in the country to view the heaped corpses and the general havoc at Deir Yassin. The Deir Yassin incident exemplifies the character and actions of the Freedom Party. Within the Jewish community they have preached an admixture of ultranationalism, religious mysticism, and racial superiority. Like other Fascist parties they have been used to break strikes, and have themselves pressed for the destruction of free trade unions. In their stead they have proposed corporate unions on the Italian Fascist model. During the last years of sporadic anti-British violence, the IZL and Stern groups inaugurated a reign of terror in the Palestine Jewish community. Teachers were beaten up for speaking against them, adults were shot for not letting their children join them. By gangster methods, beatings, window-smashing, and wide-spread robberies, the terrorists intimidated the population and exacted a heavy tribute. The people of the Freedom Party have had no part in the constructive achievements in Palestine. They have reclaimed no land, built no settlements, and only detracted from the Jewish defense activity. Their much-publicized immigration endeavors were minute, and devoted mainly to bringing in Fascist compatriots. Discrepancies Seen The discrepancies between the bold claims now being made by Begin and his party, and their record of past performance in Palestine bear the imprint of no ordinary political party. This is the unmistakable stamp of a Fascist party for whom terrorism (against Jews, Arabs, and British alike), and misrepresentation are means, and a "Leader State" is the goal. In the light of the foregoing considerations, it is imperative that the truth about Mr. Begin and his movement be made known in this country. It is all the more tragic that the top leadership of American Zionism has refused to campaign against Begin's efforts, or even to expose to its own constituents the dangers to Israel from support to Begin. The undersigned therefore take this means of publicly presenting a few salient facts concerning Begin and his party; and of urging all concerned not to support this latest manifestation of fascism. ISIDORE ABRAMOWITZ HANNAH ARENDT ABRAHAM BRICK RABBI JESSURUN CARDOZO ALBERT EINSTEIN HERMAN EISEN, M.D. HAYIM FINEMAN M. GALLEN, M.D. H.H. HARRIS ZELIG S. HARRIS SIDNEY HOOK FRED KARUSH BRURIA KAUFMAN IRMA L. LINDHEIM NACHMAN MAISEL SEYMOUR MELMAN MYER D. MENDELSON M.D., HARRY M. OSLINSKY SAMUEL PITLICK FRITZ ROHRLICH LOUIS P. ROCKER RUTH SAGIS ITZHAK SANKOWSKY I.J. SHOENBERG SAMUEL SHUMAN M. SINGER IRMA WOLFE STEFAN WOLF. New York, Dec. 2, 1948 -Einstein
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