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 Post subject: My thoughts on the Saddam Execution
 Post Posted: Wed Jan 03, 2007 8:17 am 
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I'm not going to dwell on whether the man deserved to die or not. Because frankly, unlike the religious zealots of this country and the middle east, I don't perceive myself to have the ultimate moral authority to decide who deserves to die and who doesn't. My morals ar guided by my own set of ideals, not by some vindictive god figure.

Having said that however, I want to bring to attention what President Bush said about the execution. Dear Dubbya called it a victory in the war on terror. My question then is, if it's such a victory why are we seeing so much death still today? How is killing a man who's country was invaded illegally considered a victory in the war on terror? Perhaps it was a victory in Bush's own personal vendetta. I mean, come on, wasn't this whole thing, among others, about Bush's daddy anyway?

I think that propagandizing and politicizing Saddam's execution for pseudo-patriotic/nationalistic, gather round the flag, bullshit war on terror is exactly what this country does not need right now.

This country needs the truth. This country needs to know why the bush administration lied to us to go to a war that is obviously not winnable. The war critics are now saying....told you so. But it's too late. The damage has been done because americans have fallen for the old patriotic playbook. This is not patriotism. Patriotism stems from the right for people in this country to demand the truth, not gatherin' round the flag and praising jeeezus for Saddam's death. That is not america, and is only defined as nationalism. Patriotism stems from pride in the righteousness of the country, not from lies being fed to us. Patriotism, by far is not conducive to the joy we find in Saddam's death. Saddam's execution has nothing to do with the war on terror, that is smokescreen. Don't fall for it. So Saddam's dead, so what? What now oh gracious leader? What about the 3000 dead American soldiers? What about the thousand of others that don't have limbs, suffer from depression and PTSD? What about the thousands of dead civilians and children? What about the true patriots of this country?

Let me also add, after viewing the video of Saddam's execution, that by mocking Saddam with Muqtada al-Sadr on a US base shows that this, again, was nothing more than a vengeful execution at the hands of shia' fundamentalists and american forces. It is ironic how a simple execution has turned into a mockery of the war on terror and has given sunnis a reason for extremism.

As Bush sits on his high horse and babbles about victories in the war on terror, stop for a second and think..... what exactly is the war on terror anyway?

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No one cared about Saddam. It was apersonal present to the Neocons and a signal to other world leaders that, hey will will capture you and hang you. It's a power play.

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saddam was a pawn ,and when they didnt need him or couldnt use him ,they elliminated him , and offcourse its a message to all people , like bush said either your with us ,or your with the terrorists . fukin bush probebly cant even spell the word terrorists.

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 Post Posted: Tue Mar 13, 2007 9:24 am 
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I believe that a Saddam like figure (if it was him is not to debate here) was killed in oder to justify a killing of a US president and be able to blame it on the terrorists.
So that they will be able to post a headline something like "an eye for an eye, a president for a president."

Why would someone want to kill a US president:
Each president elected in a zero year died in office:
1840, 1860, 1880, 1900, 1920, 1940, 1960, 1980 - Reagan they barely missed.
2000 is the next zero year president.
(I personally believe it being some sort of ritual sacrifice)

And when something like that has to be done, why not make it happen in a way that it facilitates the overal agenda: the war on terrorism.
An incident like this will help to pump up the war on terror.

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Tabui wrote:
I believe that a Saddam like figure (if it was him is not to debate here) was killed in oder to justify a killing of a US president and be able to blame it on the terrorists.
So that they will be able to post a headline something like "an eye for an eye, a president for a president."

Why would someone want to kill a US president:
Each president elected in a zero year died in office:
1840, 1860, 1880, 1900, 1920, 1940, 1960, 1980 - Reagan they barely missed.
2000 is the next zero year president.
(I personally believe it being some sort of ritual sacrifice)

And when something like that has to be done, why not make it happen in a way that it facilitates the overal agenda: the war on terrorism.
An incident like this will help to pump up the war on terror.

This is just my view


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Although it was a powerplay, Saddam didn't play his part. He wasn't a whimpering coward. Now it's like the hanging has never happened. It would not surprise me if he became a martyr and T-shirts would be printed with his face on it like Che Guevara's (Just trying to guess what might happen).
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He probably will get on a Shirt. Hell even Mao is on them.

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