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adam1
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Post subject: Posted: Tue Apr 10, 2007 8:17 am |
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Ry I have to disagree when you say most atheists are aware, I'd say it was more half n half, but maybe thats just my UK experience.
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Ry
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Post subject: Posted: Tue Apr 10, 2007 6:22 pm |
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Joined: Jun 27th, 2005 Posts: 31553 Location: Japan
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Atheist do not hate Islam you are talkiong about Dawkins only. ATheist dont run by the orders from head quarters junk. Atheist talk about one religon only normally and its Christianity because thats the religion walking all over their life. They hate Bush and normally are against war period exspecially a religious war that has been called a crusade. Look at the lopsided number of atheist on this board. There shold be more Christians that anyone given that they are 80% of the nation yet the number of Christians on this website in about 5.
Maybe I scared them away. But there are more muslims and atheist on this site than anyone else.
_________________ This site is against war, Zionism, (or any other form of racism), profiteering, and all forms of government corruption, mass media deception, and cover ups. This is not a site to flail on about space aliens-illuminati-masonic-deathcult-jewish-catholic-lizard-lucifarian-jesuit-queen-barvarian-etc bull hockey. Take that junk somewhere else. My Twitter "It doesn't matter who we are underneath. It is what we do that defines us." Batman Google version of War by Deception Pass HR 1207 and S604 audit the Fed
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GamerS
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Post subject: Posted: Tue Apr 10, 2007 8:21 pm |
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Joined: Dec 10th, 2006 Posts: 1490
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Don't count me as a true Christian, Ry. I have so much doubt on a daily basis, I barely qualify. I do beleive in God, that's the only 99% sure thing for me. No point in lying to myself. So now you have 4. Most Christians are very ignorant closed-minded people. No wonder they're not here.
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sangre_de_soldado
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Post subject: Posted: Tue Apr 10, 2007 9:48 pm |
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Joined: May 9th, 2006 Posts: 597 Location: Califaz
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Ry wrote: Oh I know he was a religious moron. But Think of our audience. We don't have to convert Atheist to be anti-war. By and large they already are. The only people we really need to Reach are Christians. Morderate ones because talking to evagelical Christians about politics is about as meaningful as talking to my cat about baseball.
Muslims are on boared because they are getting attacked and Jews dont really matter because they are like 2% of the US populous and by and large they are already anti-war too. The people we have to reach are the Christians the ones who believe in the illuminati lol and the slightly more rational ones. Because that is all the Neocons have to prevent outrage is unawareness.
Most Christians are clueless about Israel and Palestine in fact they ignorantly believe the opposite of reality. These people have authoritarian personalities. They NEED one of their own to say it on TV first before the idea can even begin to sink in.
Of course the majority of people are just non-political they just dont care about anything going on. We have got to reach them. They are not going to read. That is why a VIDEO is so vital.
I think you're wrong about the Muslim part, simply because there are Muslims who don't know how to respond to questions like "what do you think about 9/11?" or "do you support Hezbollah?" and these are the guys usually from CAIR who are invited to interviews and end up getting owned simply because they believe the shit they hear on T.V.
It would be great if you started speaking in Mosques regardless of your Atheist beliefs or scheduling a presentation with a large Muslim audience in America which could be spread by the Muslims (the truth would spread like wild-fire among us). Seriously why don't you do it? Believe me it's A LOT easier getting Muslims to hear about what really happened on 9/11 than getting your moderate Christian or just average Joe non-religious American.
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GamerS
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Post subject: Posted: Wed Apr 11, 2007 8:40 pm |
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This movement cannnot come from Muslims or it will be easy for Christians to criticize. It has to come from people that have no motive to lie. That's what I tell people when they wonder who to beleive. I ask them to consider who has the motive to lie. The corporate profiteer politician, or your fellow man? I think that many Muslims who know what's going on stay quiet because they know that the general public will not believe them. That's why I don't like talking about Israel. Even thought I am Christian, just being from Iran immediately paints me as an anti-semite in most people's eyes, and this perception makes my ideas suspect.
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Ry
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Post subject: Posted: Wed Apr 11, 2007 9:04 pm |
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Joined: Jun 27th, 2005 Posts: 31553 Location: Japan
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just because a religon is irrational does not make atheist hate it that would mean we hate all relgions. I dont. The only religions that matter in my life are Christianity and Judaism. Because they effect the US. Islam has a presence in the US about as large as native Americans. It does not even matter.
Atheist see Bush as a Boarn Agian Christian idiot (which he is) who is starting wars and supporting Israel because of his religious convictions. Even those who think Osama hit the WTC see it as the result of 100 years of US foreign policy. Not Islam.
For one the bulk of the Islamic world (country-wise) supports the US. Turkey, Jordan, Saudi Arabia, Pakistan, Kuwait, Egypt etc.
It's not a war with Islam its a war with countries in the Middle East who are not controlled by the US and Israel.
_________________ This site is against war, Zionism, (or any other form of racism), profiteering, and all forms of government corruption, mass media deception, and cover ups. This is not a site to flail on about space aliens-illuminati-masonic-deathcult-jewish-catholic-lizard-lucifarian-jesuit-queen-barvarian-etc bull hockey. Take that junk somewhere else. My Twitter "It doesn't matter who we are underneath. It is what we do that defines us." Batman Google version of War by Deception Pass HR 1207 and S604 audit the Fed
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Ry
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Post subject: Posted: Wed Apr 11, 2007 9:41 pm |
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Islam and Atehism are both demonized in the US. That is why it has to be said by a Christian and why ALex Jones is so popular among Xtians they only listen to each other.
I am gald he is doing that.
But I have never once said anything about Islam causing 911, nor have I said Bin Laden had anything to do with it. And I say the same for Palestine. In My Video I wrote. Why do they Hate us? It is not Islam. It is because we torture and murder their kids. Plain and simple. One of the Suicide bombers for example was a Secular Nurse who was tired of removing rubber coat metal bullets from children. I am not saying what she did was right/effective I am just pointing out that the motive to attack Israelis is not just from religion its from being constantly abused and that would arise under Any religion or lack there of.
I have had a few People think I was a Muslim, I try and be clear about my Atheism and I do not speak for Muslims. They might agree with my politics but it has nothing to do with their religion. And likewise for me I might agree with some of their politics but it has NOTHING to do with their religion. The one thing I do like about the religion is it forbids usury. I think you know my feelings about the rest of it and we wont go there. But that is irrelavent to why we fight Zionism. Zionism is immoral with or without god(s).
_________________ This site is against war, Zionism, (or any other form of racism), profiteering, and all forms of government corruption, mass media deception, and cover ups. This is not a site to flail on about space aliens-illuminati-masonic-deathcult-jewish-catholic-lizard-lucifarian-jesuit-queen-barvarian-etc bull hockey. Take that junk somewhere else. My Twitter "It doesn't matter who we are underneath. It is what we do that defines us." Batman Google version of War by Deception Pass HR 1207 and S604 audit the Fed
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Ry
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Post subject: Posted: Thu Apr 12, 2007 12:05 am |
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Joined: Jun 27th, 2005 Posts: 31553 Location: Japan
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yeh I got my jab it there. there are several in the film if you can find them
I like classical it was written by a mad man and yeh it sounds so latty-da reminds me of GTA blowing up building while escaping in a stolen car listening to classical music. Sometihng funny about the juxtapositon of it.
_________________ This site is against war, Zionism, (or any other form of racism), profiteering, and all forms of government corruption, mass media deception, and cover ups. This is not a site to flail on about space aliens-illuminati-masonic-deathcult-jewish-catholic-lizard-lucifarian-jesuit-queen-barvarian-etc bull hockey. Take that junk somewhere else. My Twitter "It doesn't matter who we are underneath. It is what we do that defines us." Batman Google version of War by Deception Pass HR 1207 and S604 audit the Fed
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