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yeh I got my jab it there. there are several in the film if you can find them :)

I like classical it was written by a mad man and yeh it sounds so latty-da reminds me of GTA blowing up building while escaping in a stolen car listening to classical music. Sometihng funny about the juxtapositon of it.

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just because a religon is irrational does not make atheist hate it that would mean we hate all relgions. I dont. The only religions that matter in my life are Christianity and Judaism. Because they effect the US. Islam has a presence in the US about as large as native Americans. It does not even matter.

Atheist see Bush as a Boarn Agian Christian idiot (which he is) who is starting wars and supporting Israel because of his religious convictions. Even those who think Osama hit the WTC see it as the result of 100 years of US foreign policy. Not Islam.

For one the bulk of the Islamic world (country-wise) supports the US. Turkey, Jordan, Saudi Arabia, Pakistan, Kuwait, Egypt etc.

It's not a war with Islam its a war with countries in the Middle East who are not controlled by the US and Israel.


Dude like 21% of America is Muslim, and most Muslims hold high positions. I mean seriously although you may not see it as a war with Islam it doesn't matter because if the Muslims knew about the gory details of 9/11 and just how puppet like the ME countries are it would be a disaster for the neo-cons that's why they gotta plague us with disinfo and trust me it has worked although it's starting to sink.

And as for the Islamic world supporting the U.S. The good news is that actually most Muslims there know this but it's not exactly easy to fight those governments off or start a revolution. If you have been following Egyptian news you'd know about the riots taking place in universities and fights with police and such revolving around religious reasons and their knowledge of their governments' corruption. Same goes with Saudi Arabia notice how they are with the "war on terror" if you have been following that news you'd know how Saudi Arabia kidnaps people and tortures them whenever they believe they are "terror suspects". They even made it difficult for people to go to Chechnya to fight, everyone knows they are a puppet government. Same goes with the rest of those countries.

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Dude like 21% of America is Muslim


ha ha

Dude NO.

The Muslim population in the US is less than 1% it is .03% the highest number I could fnd was .05%

Muslims are a flee on a dog in the US. Yet they can still get elected unlike Non-religous people even though they make up 14% of the US. 28 times the number of Muslims.

I think you are thinking about the world. About 21% of the world is Muslim but in the US it is Less that 1%. Hell it is less than half a %. They absolutely don't matter. Like I said their are more Native Americans than there are Muslims in the US.

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Ry wrote:
ha ha

Dude NO.

The Muslim population in the US is less than 1% it is .03% the highest number I could fnd was .05%

Muslims are a flee on a dog in the US. Yet they can still get elected unlike Non-religous people even though they make up 14% of the US. 28 times the number of Muslims.

I think you are thinking about the world. About 21% of the world is Muslim but in the US it is Less that 1%. Hell it is less than half a %. They absolutely don't matter. Like I said their are more Native Americans than there are Muslims in the US.


nvm I was thinking about the world but those numbers are disputed because the U.S doesn't count the numbers of people belonging to religions in this country.

And they only get elected when they don't present a threat. Yeah Keith Ellison got elected but, no disrespect to him I like him, he associates with CAIR which is the biggest Muslim organization that kisses up to the U.S government. And even then othe rpoliticians had a fit over it. It's not that I don't like Keith Ellison, it's that say some Muslim like Imam Musa ran up for election it would NEVER HAPPEN.

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the guys usually from CAIR who are invited to interviews and end up gesangre_de_soldadotting owned simply because they believe the shit they hear on T.V


Yeah, don't they know that it is better to keep their mouths shut and appear stupid, rather than open it and remove all doubts ?.

What's so difficult about keeping their mouths shut ?. Really shut.

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That has yet to be proven.

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Ry you don't need to idealise atheists as being anti-war.

They come in all forms and colors like any other group of people. Some of them hate islam and don't want to investigate 9-11. Why would they investigate 911 when it is blamed on the people who hold dear what they hate most (islam) ?.

Some of them even shamelessly cheer the mass killing of muslims (go read some of the comments on liveleak.com).

Actually there are even some muslims who don't want to hear about any other version of 911 but the official version. Or simply they will tell you they just don't care who did it. They are working to gather as much comfort as they can and that's all what matters to them. Among all the hypocrites walking on this planet, those are the ones I utterly hate. There seems to be an unlimited supply of them.

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As a side note Ry, regarding the ike video :

It's not : "If I was a journalist", but it's : "If I WERE a journalist".

I don't mean to be pedant, but you will sound a little bit more sophisticated to the scrutinazing portion of the audience.

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Ry, you should really come & speak at college campuses in the U.S. The Audience could benefit greatly.

And Ry, i can think of more Athiests that believe in the offical 9/11 story than thiests, but maybe that's out of the norm.

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Ry, you should really come & speak at college campuses in the U.S. The Audience could benefit greatly.

And Ry, i can think of more Athiests that believe in the offical 9/11 story than thiests, but maybe that's out of the norm.


Yeah thats a good idea, that would be a good forum for you as colleges tend to be more open to idea's.


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I dont know of any a few agnostics though. Bush's support is Born again religious types. He pissed off the atheist community with the crap about stem cells etc.

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