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Being in the CFR doesn't cut it. That doesn't mean they control it. How do they even get into it in the first place? Because certain people want them in. They can't just waltz in one day.

The CFR and it's British Counterpart the Royal Institute of International Affairs both came from Cecil Rhodes' Round Table group. Yes, Rhodes had Rothschild money and membership in his group and yes he was their frontmen when he exploited the diamonds in Africa. Rhodes scholarships are named after Cecil Rhodes and people get to go to the biggest universities in the world and are trained in the philosophy of a one world government. A prime example is Bill Clinton. He went to a JESUIT university and was taught by a JESUIT professor named Carroll Quigly who wrote a massive book called TRAGEDY AND HOPE showing how the British Empire works and where the power really resides. His book was so dangerous that it was taken off of many shelves and also the plates to the first half were smashed.

As for the Rothschilds, they are nothing more than guardians for the Vatican treasury according to the jewish encyclopedia. Many of these jews are loyal to the Vatican and are Frankist-Sabbatean jews. If Israel and its government holds so much power, why is it that Simon Peres, who was trained at a jesuit school in Poland deeded Jerusalem to the Vatican in 1993? Why is it that Ariel Sharon and both Yitzack Rabin were murdered by Peres and people working for him? Barry Chamish had done excellent work on this. He even wrote a book on the murder of the latter of these two. The Vatican wants temple mount and they were not getting it fast enough. Even Olmert was moving too slowly. Katsav was threatened that if he did move quickly enough to get the Vatican the land in Jerusalem they want, he would be in deep trouble. Sure enough, he is being falsely charged with rape.

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The Zionist movement—measured against the Vatican/Jesuit existence—is modern. The relationship between the Rothschilds—perhaps the preeminent Zionists—and the Vatican is well-documented.
When I read accounts from the nineteenth century—especially mid-century—our political leaders are warned to be wary of Vatican not Zionist provocateuring.
At the Secret Treaty of Verona in 1822, several monarchies—the Holy Alliance—pledged themselves to destroy the concept of popular government that had taken root in the United States. It was called the Holy Alliance because the monarchies were pledged to do the bidding of the Vatican, not the Zionists.
When John Surratt fled the U.S. because of his role in the Lincoln assassination, he found safe haven in the Vatican Guard. The U.S. threatened the Vatican with a cessation of diplomatic relations unless Surratt was returned.
When Cecil Rhodes was preparing his Round Table to pursue his dream of global rule, he wished to create an organization that mirrored the Jesuits. The oath the initiates would take was to be based on the Jesuit oath. Nothing there about Zionism.
How many times have we seen our heads of state with the pope in the Vatican? How many times in the City of London?

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If Jesuits are not powerful and the Soverign Military Order of Malta is not powerful, why has Greg Szymanski been thrown off RBN? They will allow criticism of Zionism but not the jesuits? Why? Could it be that that other site in my signature that is not cloakanddagger is on to something?
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Being in the CFR doesn't cut it. That doesn't mean they control it. How do they even get into it in the first place? Because certain people want them in. They can't just waltz in one day


ha ha whatever they created it.



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Yes, Rhodes had Rothschild money and membership in his group and yes he was their frontmen when he exploited the diamonds in Africa


yeh Rothchild a super Zionist banker who helped create Israel.



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As for the Rothschilds, they are nothing more than guardians for the Vatican treasury according to the jewish encyclopedia. Many of these jews are loyal to the Vatican and are Frankist-Sabbatean jews. If Israel and its government holds so much power, why is it that Simon Peres, who was trained at a jesuit school in Poland deeded Jerusalem to the Vatican in 1993? Why is it that Ariel Sharon and both Yitzack Rabin were murdered by Peres and people working for him? Barry Chamish had done excellent work on this
well because everything you just said in simply not true. Areil Sharon by the way is still alive dumb ass.



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The Vatican wants temple mount and they were not getting it fast enough. Even Olmert was moving too slowly. Katsav was threatened that if he did move quickly enough to get the Vatican the land in Jerusalem they want, he would be in deep trouble. Sure enough, he is being falsely charged with rape.
not jusy the Vatican the PROTESTANT CHURCHES are the ones calling for this as well as finaincing the occupation. YOu know the people you keep parroting.

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Katsav was threatened that if he did move quickly enough to get the Vatican the land in Jerusalem they want, he would be in deep trouble. Sure enough, he is being falsely charged with rape.
holy hell those are not false charges he did rape women. And the vatican didn't bring up those charges.

ding ding ding we got another brain washed catholic hating WASP here. Go look at the Protestant church investments. Also the Catholic church came out AGAINST the Iraq war as did all the Catholic countries other than spain and Itally both of whoms people were against the war and forced their governments to leave. Its the Protestant nations backing Israel and going to war like the US and the UK.

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Being in the CFR doesn't cut it. That doesn't mean they control it. How do they even get into it in the first place? Because certain people want them in. They can't just waltz in one day

ha ha whatever they created it.

Zionist jews created the CFR. Hardly. The jewish Rothschilds are not the only ones behind Cecil Rhodes. Why is it so many people talk about the Rothschilds but don't talk about the really big bloodlines like

http://z13.invisionfree.com/THE_UNHIVED ... topic=2298
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Bernadotte
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Grosvenors
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Or why aren't there enough people talking about the Aspen Institute for example? Or the Committee of 300? Or the Council of 13? Or the Knights of Malta? Or British SIS? Why won't people talk about Knight of Malta King Juan Carlos of Spain who holds the title Protector of the Holy Sites of Jerusalem? How can that be unless Israeli PM's in fact have gentile controllers?

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As for the Rothschilds, they are nothing more than guardians for the Vatican treasury according to the jewish encyclopedia. Many of these jews are loyal to the Vatican and are Frankist-Sabbatean jews. If Israel and its government holds so much power, why is it that Simon Peres, who was trained at a jesuit school in Poland deeded Jerusalem to the Vatican in 1993? Why is it that Ariel Sharon and both Yitzack Rabin were murdered by Peres and people working for him? Barry Chamish had done excellent work on this
well because everything you just said in simply not true. Areil Sharon by the way is still alive dumb ass.

Sharon was basically brain dead after his stroke. Peres basically cabbaged him. Yeah he made in improvement recently, but he's out of the way because those more powerful than jews wanted it that way. Way to pick your battles. Secondly, the jewish encyclopedia DOES state that the Rothschilds are simply the treasurers of the papacy. Here it is.
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Something analogous occurred in England when the century-long competition of the Barings and the Rothschilds culminated in the failure of the former in 1898; but in this case the Rothschilds came to the rescue of their rivals and prevented a universal financial catastrophe. It is a somewhat curious sequel to the attempt to set up a Catholic competitor to the Rothschilds that at the present time the latter are the guardians of the papal treasure.


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The Vatican wants temple mount and they were not getting it fast enough. Even Olmert was moving too slowly. Katsav was threatened that if he did move quickly enough to get the Vatican the land in Jerusalem they want, he would be in deep trouble. Sure enough, he is being falsely charged with rape.
not jusy the Vatican the PROTESTANT CHURCHES are the ones calling for this as well as finaincing the occupation. YOu know the people you keep parroting.

It is documented that the Vatican is getting what it wants from Israeli politicians - something that can't happen unless Rome does have loyal papal court jews.
WHO REALLY OWNS ISRAEL?
http://z13.invisionfree.com/THE_UNHIVED ... opic=14390
ISRAEL DEEDS JERUSALEM TO THE VATICAN
http://z13.invisionfree.com/THE_UNHIVED ... topic=3025
ISRAEL THE VATICAN AND JERUSALEM
http://www.redmoonrising.com/chamish/vaticanagenda.htm

As for the Protestant Churches, those were infiltrated by freemasons and zionist jews long ago. They are a lost cause too. Texe Marrs has a great video of many protestant preachers making satanic hand gestures in their performances. And there are countless photos like that around the net.

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ding ding ding we got another brain washed catholic hating WASP here. Go look at the Protestant church investments. Also the Catholic church came out AGAINST the Iraq war as did all the Catholic countries other than spain and Itally both of whoms people were against the war and forced their governments to leave. Its the Protestant nations backing Israel and going to war like the US and the UK.

Oh the catholic church is agains the war in Iraq? Sure. I believe that. Just like I believe they are against abortion. I really believe the pope and the jesuits are against all that. I really believe the Catholic Church has changed since the days of the crusades. Especially given that the jesuits have murdered popes and that human satanic sacrifices have happened in the Vatican. I am not a WASP. I'm a WAS. I'm against organized religion. Religion is a fraud as Ralph Ellis and Ahmed Osman will tell you.

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DREW-- Sharon had a stroke, he's brain dead. Nothing sinister. Rabin was shot by a Kahana nutcase settler. Nothing sinister. You're depending too much on one suspect source, invisionfree. As much as mainstream sites give people the eebie-jeebies, they're essential to some issues and serve as corroborating or supportive vetting.
Catholics are against the Iraq war, always have been, even the leadership right up to the Pope. Catholics are against ALL war. Catholics are against the crusades, holy war, even fighting back when attacked. If you think otherwise, then you don't know anything about Catholicism.
The Catholic church is against abortion, but most people are, including atheists, unless the mother's health is threatened. I know of no-one that supports abortion as method of birth control, and no one that supports abortion after the second trimester...unless the mother's health is threatened.
Most Catholics are against abortion in principle because they're consistent.

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DREW-- Sharon had a stroke, he's brain dead. Nothing sinister. Rabin was shot by a Kahana nutcase settler. Nothing sinister. You're depending too much on one suspect source, invisionfree. As much as mainstream sites give people the eebie-jeebies, they're essential to some issues and serve as corroborating or supportive vetting.
Catholics are against the Iraq war, always have been, even the leadership right up to the Pope. Catholics are against ALL war. Catholics are against the crusades, holy war, even fighting back when attacked. If you think otherwise, then you don't know anything about Catholicism.
The Catholic church is against abortion, but most people are, including atheists, unless the mother's health is threatened. I know of no-one that supports abortion as method of birth control, and no one that supports abortion after the second trimester...unless the mother's health is threatened.
Most Catholics are against abortion in principle because they're consistent.


I support abortions. Just adding my 2 cents.

Oh yeah, Im a women and its my fucking body. Men just have a problem given up that control. They dont know how to handle women w/minds. :twisted:

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So you like abortions? :shock: Given the choice between an abortion and carrying to term I don't know anyone that prefers the former option.
And though it is your body, the child within is partly the fucking father's. After all, it's not a fucking tumor. Know what I fucking mean?
Not that I'm an expert, I really don't know at what point the embryo becomes a human baby....do you? I can only guess and accept popular consensus.

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So you like abortions? :shock: Given the choice between an abortion and carrying to term I don't know anyone that prefers the former option.
And though it is your body, the child within is partly the fucking father's. After all, it's not a fucking tumor. Know what I fucking mean?
Not that I'm an expert, I really don't know at what point the embryo becomes a human baby....do you? I can only guess and accept popular consensus.


Im guessing it is when it can live outside of my body. Do you cry when you masterbate and kill all that potential life? I mean why dont you give it to science, or some family that is trying to have a baby? or what about each month when those eggs are KILLED and flushed down my toilet? Should I have funeral?

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Facetiousness is no substitute for common sense, but you can post whatever you like, of course.
During a late-term (partial-birth) abortion the fetus is alive, moving, and looks like a baby. The doctor pulls it halfway out of the womb, then gruesomely kills it, making quite a mess. To me, if the mother isn't going to suffer ill-effects, carrying the baby to term seems the better, more humane option. If she then decides she or the father (or both) don't want it, there's always adoption.
People are desperate to adopt.

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Facetiousness is no substitute for common sense, but you can post whatever you like, of course.
During a late-term (partial-birth) abortion the fetus is alive, moving, and looks like a baby. The doctor pulls it halfway out of the womb, then gruesomely kills it, making quite a mess. To me, if the mother isn't going to suffer ill-effects, carrying the baby to term seems the better, more humane option. If she then decides she or the father (or both) don't want it, there's always adoption.
People are desperate to adopt.


But I agree w/you there, I said when the baby can live outside my body it is then defined as a child. Dont get me wrong, I dont think women should have an abortion just to have one as it is bad for her body and can lead to breast cancer. Im just saying I still want to be able to have one w/in the first and early second trimester. I would personally have an abortion tmrw if I found out I was pregnant. I dont want anymore children at least I dont think I do.

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Then we seem to differ only in our definition of when it turns from a medical procedure into infanticide. I was just pointing out that Catholics are opposed to killing, and that's why they oppose war, the death penalty, and abortion. Catholics take a lot of heat, but what I've seen is that practicing Catholics are more liberal and tolerant than other denominations of Christianity (not necessarily the leadership), which are after all, all offshoots.

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Nice post infinite, w/ this site. Interesting info. to have , even though it's a geocities site -

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Then we seem to differ only in our definition of when it turns from a medical procedure into infanticide. I was just pointing out that Catholics are opposed to killing, and that's why they oppose war, the death penalty, and abortion. Catholics take a lot of heat, but what I've seen is that practicing Catholics are more liberal and tolerant than other denominations of Christianity (not necessarily the leadership), which are after all, all offshoots.


Well, if you are supporting x-tian ie catholics then we disagree on that too.

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Believe me, from your posts I figured that. :P

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Believe me, from your posts I figured that. :P


Awwww.......but we both dislike Bush and the zionist whores that run this country, so see we still got love for each other. :)

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DREW-- Sharon had a stroke, he's brain dead. Nothing sinister.

Wrong. It happened after drinking tea with Simon Peres who went to a Jesuit school in Poland and WHO DEEDED JERUSELAM TO THE VATICAN IN 1993. The favourite assassination tool of the Vatican is the cup of Bogia. They spike your drink with poison. Sharon's cabbaging is just as good as death as he is out of the piecutre.

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No, that's what we're supposed to believe. If you look at Barry Chamish's book WHO KILLED YITZAK RABIN, you find that he was in fact not murdered by Yigal Amir. It was by his bodyguard Yoram Rubin. Rubin after doing his duty for Peres, LATER BECAME BODYGUARD TO ARIEL SHARON. What a coincidence, he winds up out of the picture too.

Rabin knew how Hamas were secretly funded by the Likud and he knew how the Israeli government AND freemason Yassir Arafat did not want peace and wanted continued strife. Rabin was going to clamp down on it and so he was wiped out. Paul Watson goes over this in chapter four.
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Barry Chamish has also had his life attempted on at least three times for exposing the Vatican and who really runs Israel. He had to leave that country to save his life. He has proven how Rabin really died.
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid ... 4581633961

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No, Invision free is a collection of many sources. Even if I depended on one source, so what? Sometimes, one or two sources are the only things that are accurate or truth telling when it comes to revealing certain things. That was definitely true about zionism years ago. Fortunately, it's exploded.

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Catholics are against the Iraq war, always have been, even the leadership right up to the Pope. Catholics are against ALL war. Catholics are against the crusades, holy war, even fighting back when attacked.

In other words, you take religious people at their word simply because they are Catholic. Seems to me like you're cherry picking. Many catholics, like protestants are brainwashed into wanting war to protect them from Islamic terrorists. I bet you a million fucking dollars you will find at least ONE catholic in all of the canadian and/or American armies overseas fighting the big bad freedom hating Islamic fundamentalists. Secondly, if catholics were ever against war, there would never have been any crusades or murders of protestants through the last four centuries.

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I thought this section of the forum was to challenge the ideaology of the Illuminati theorist? vs It was the Zionist, etc... (of course it was)

btw Catholics are no more opposed to the war, then the majority of the Christians. If they were against it so much, they would of impeached their 'christian' leaders. who seem to have forgotten the great commandment, "...Thou shalt love thy neighbor as thyself. On these two commandments hang all the law and the prophets"
It's true that the pope (who cares what he says) condemned Bush for his actions. Then why does the 'Pope' ware 'skull cap' ? Skullcap
Jewish yarmulke or kippah
one major reason-because of jewish masonic founding of the roman catholic order. Just wanted to sort of throw that out there. It had been/was documented, until some A@#%holes removed it off google video, censoring the public from learning anything too esoteric.

Secret Mysteries of America’s Beginnings (movie trailer)
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid ... rica&hl=en

Who really owns Israel? That would be the British blokes U.K.govt. ;-] as covered by Jordan Maxwell. Brit-ish* (covenant-man, men of the covenant)

You know? Benjamin Freedman's ol' speech on how, the U.S. would help G.B. in WW1 , against Hungary/Austria, Germany, & Turkey. All in exchange for Palestine. State of British rule of Israel -

Benjamin Freedman speech with Slide Show (40 Minute Excerpt)
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Yes, freemasonry is based on the esoteric caballah which is part of the jewish religion, aka, the talmud and the zohar. However, this egyptian-babylonia stuff is not jewish in origin. It was incorporated into the jewish religion, and it comes from Egypt and Babylon. In effect, when the gentile order the knights templar (the precursor to freemasonry) formed, you could say they were taking something gentile back.

Ahmed Osman and Ralph Ellis and Jordan Maxwell and Michael Tsarion are good people to look into when it comes to things like this. I assume everyone has seen those famous quotes about Freemasonry being a jewish instutition with jewish rituals, etc.

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Masonic authors Christopher Knight and Robert Lomas, admit that every Grand Master of Freemasonry is a priest of Yahweh - Juri Lina (Architects of Deception)

Freemasonry is a Jewish establishment, whose history, grades, official appointments, passwords, and explanations are Jewish from beginning to end - Rabbi Isaac Wise (of B’nai B’rith, quoted in Israelite of America, Aug 3, 1866)

Masonry is based on Judaism. Eliminate the teachings of Judaism from the Masonic Ritual and what is left? - The Jewish Tribune (New York, Oct 28, 1927)

Freemasonry is born out of Israel - The Jewish Guardian (April 12 1922)


Give what Tsarion says about the Old Testament being a book of the Pharoahs, Egypt, etc, what he says here with Hesham Tillawi on June 3 2006 is relevant.
http://video.google.ca/videoplay?docid= ... 9117472318
He starts talking about the 'real' Hebrews, like Akhenaton and others in Egypt. Start at the 17:15.

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Right on - ( Ry isn't the only bloke who says that ) {heh}
Ty , I know about all of that already, & agree.
I really have liked M.Tsarion & J.Maxwell for quite sometime now. His topic of Akhenaton & the true origins of Judaism is amazing, yes.
I like his stuff on the Druids, Celts, & Atlantis, etc., also. His astro-theology is amazing. VERY interesting research. I've seen all of Tsarions videos. & another book on the 'to buy someday' list of mine.
YOU MUST BE WARNED THOUGH
he believes in those aliens + reptillian races Icke mentions. :-o
I've mentioned them both, a bit on this forum in the past. www.taroscopes.com
I'd mention that stuff, carefully, with caution on here. & look to dodge attacks, flying tomatoes, & other random flying objects. Other then ufo's, from certain individuals. lol (they're a tuff crowd) ;-]

Nice to meet your accuaintence, I'm Thomas. www.myspace.com/eratosthenes08

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I wanted to add, real quick. I don't know why all these dolts keep saying that America was 'founded as a Christian nation', when it was not.

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I'm not sure about that whole reptilian thing. I think Icke's been fed some disinformation; and he has run with it and that's why the order tolerates him.

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Icke knows it is crap he is just making money from it. Part of him cares, part of him is just an oppertunist. It kind of worked because he is so nutty he got the spot light put on him probably because those in charge thought it would discredit everything which is does.

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Drew J wrote:
Yes, freemasonry is based on the esoteric caballah which is part of the jewish religion, aka, the talmud and the zohar. However, this egyptian-babylonia stuff is not jewish in origin. It was incorporated into the jewish religion, and it comes from Egypt and Babylon. In effect, when the gentile order the knights templar (the precursor to freemasonry) formed, you could say they were taking something gentile back.

Ahmed Osman and Ralph Ellis and Jordan Maxwell and Michael Tsarion are good people to look into when it comes to things like this. I assume everyone has seen those famous quotes about Freemasonry being a jewish instutition with jewish rituals, etc.

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the spirit of Freemasonry is that of Judaism in its most fundamental beliefs; its ideas are Judaic, its language is Judaic, its very organization, almost, is Judaic. Whenever I approach the sanctuary where the Masonic order accomplishes its works, I hear the name Solomon ringing everywhere, and echoes of Israel - (La Verite Israelite, vol 5, 1861)

Masonic authors Christopher Knight and Robert Lomas, admit that every Grand Master of Freemasonry is a priest of Yahweh - Juri Lina (Architects of Deception)

Freemasonry is a Jewish establishment, whose history, grades, official appointments, passwords, and explanations are Jewish from beginning to end - Rabbi Isaac Wise (of B’nai B’rith, quoted in Israelite of America, Aug 3, 1866)

Masonry is based on Judaism. Eliminate the teachings of Judaism from the Masonic Ritual and what is left? - The Jewish Tribune (New York, Oct 28, 1927)

Freemasonry is born out of Israel - The Jewish Guardian (April 12 1922)


Give what Tsarion says about the Old Testament being a book of the Pharoahs, Egypt, etc, what he says here with Hesham Tillawi on June 3 2006 is relevant.
http://video.google.ca/videoplay?docid= ... 9117472318
He starts talking about the 'real' Hebrews, like Akhenaton and others in Egypt. Start at the 17:15.


Fantastic! I never really researched this NWO and Illuminati stuff, but in the back of my mind always wondered if there was a correlation to the Zionist movement. Never wanted to ask anyone about it because I figured it had been covered somewhere in these forums before, and now I've found it. Suhhweeet!

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I recently posted this on another forum dealing with this subject.

"I was getting real into Ryan Dawson's stuff and was beginning to accept his notiont that secret societies are arbitrary against Zionism and "in-the-open" war profiteers, still like his movies but I've read too many books and seen too much proof of a grand conspiracy from before when.

So basically 9/11 was a job of the Mossad and Military Industrial Complex, the secret society control lying behind the scenes pertaining to the people INSIDE the Mossad and the MIC (such as members of Skull and Bones pulling a lot behind the CIA) and you can see where it all falls in, but the space stuff makes little sense.

They aren't making the money off of these programs like war profiteering generates, we could never ever possibly reach another planet with our current technology, and while I personally believe we went to the moon I have to admit the moon bases and Project Lucifer (a supposed JASON Society Project) are very convincing in the context of the rest of the shit we've been lied to about. Throw into the mix ancient austronuats, chem/con-rails, UFO's (whether alien or government made/manned, they are real and unidentified), Mars cities, and inter-dimensional probablities and you have a confusing mess. Something has to give it seems, either that or the "secret" is huge as fuck.

Where do you think the "hidden mysteries" fit into it all? Are secret societies in fact carrying out the wish of the "ancient austronauts?" It's just all a mess and I'm trying my hardest to not rely on fuckin David Icke."

So there's my proof that there's more to it all than just "Zionists" and that secret societies based around what would religiously be called "evil" ceremonies and ideals.


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I recently posted this on another forum dealing with this subject.

"I was getting real into Ryan Dawson's stuff and was beginning to accept his notiont that secret societies are arbitrary against Zionism and "in-the-open" war profiteers, still like his movies but I've read too many books and seen too much proof of a grand conspiracy from before when.

So basically 9/11 was a job of the Mossad and Military Industrial Complex, the secret society control lying behind the scenes pertaining to the people INSIDE the Mossad and the MIC (such as members of Skull and Bones pulling a lot behind the CIA) and you can see where it all falls in, but the space stuff makes little sense.

They aren't making the money off of these programs like war profiteering generates, we could never ever possibly reach another planet with our current technology, and while I personally believe we went to the moon I have to admit the moon bases and Project Lucifer (a supposed JASON Society Project) are very convincing in the context of the rest of the shit we've been lied to about. Throw into the mix ancient austronuats, chem/con-rails, UFO's (whether alien or government made/manned, they are real and unidentified), Mars cities, and inter-dimensional probablities and you have a confusing mess. Something has to give it seems, either that or the "secret" is huge as fuck.

Where do you think the "hidden mysteries" fit into it all? Are secret societies in fact carrying out the wish of the "ancient austronauts?" It's just all a mess and I'm trying my hardest to not rely on fuckin David Icke."

So there's my proof that there's more to it all than just "Zionists" and that secret societies based around what would religiously be called "evil" ceremonies and ideals.


Pardon me but, did you just say there was proof somewhere in that unassertive bullshit you posted?

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