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i dont know if any of the topmost neo-cons worship the devil- maybe willam kristol and irving kristol or staussian dicipals-

why do i say that- becuase its the struassian ideology as passed from leo struass that people (gentlemen) like bush are ripe for manipulation of thier noble position, honor and prestige and sought after distinction


K that's your speculation about Satan.

Now, Kristol and the other Jews who run the CFR are all admitted and open Zionists. I can give you countless refferences to their veiws on Israel.

Who wrote PNAC? The same people who wrote the Israeli Clean Break papers.

PNAC was first written in Israel. It was Paul Wolowittz, Richard Perle, Lewis Libby, Douglas Feith, Bill Kristal (CFR) and Elliot Abrams (CFR) Aaron Friedberg also (CFR) Donald Kagan (CFR) Stephen Rosen (the AIPAC employee caught spying on the US!!) All Zionists and all Jewish. That's not anti-Semetic it's just the truth and what that means is they have dual citizenship and put the another nation's interests ahead of the US.

It's not "the devil" Its Zionist Judaism. It's not a secret, you don't have to speculate. They all opnely admit that they are Zionists and their track record speaks for itself. I mean come on they wrote the paper calling for Greater Israel. These people are leading the Zionist movement. You can't get any more Zionists than that. Oh and Add to that People like Rosen of APIC Israel's largest lobby being a PNAC author and getting caught spying on the US for Israel. Can the picture be made any more clear now that you are looking at Evidence instead of wild speculations?

I have plenty of other evidence to prove how the Zionist took us to war in Iraq and how the Israeli Mossad was part of the patsie frame up and how and when they were in the towers on 911.

But I will hold off until I hear the rest of this illuminati junk.

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Obviously the Neocon/Zionists are a big part of the equation but what of the Christian Zionist footsoldiers? Also, the Military Industrial Complex. Clearly we have a very diverse group with a common purpose - WAR, WAR, & WAR.


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I think the illuminati theories come from christians having to have some other explanation for why people are less and less interested in their religion than it being a load of archaic morally retarded nonsense.


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The Myron C Fagan article was one of the first I ever read which led to an interest in the "conspiracy world."

Two of the most telling things for me were that while the interview was given in 1967, he accurately predicts the WW3 will be started by America "fomenting the tensions between the Zionists and the Muslim world."

He also accurately predicts that there will be false flag terror attacks upon America by it's own government to induce a state of mind conducive to the idea of war in the Middle East.

I used to be a fervent believer in the Illuminati and do still occasionally use the name but for me it is more of an umbrella term used to describe the people who direct world events from behind the scenes.


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Obviously the Neocon/Zionists are a big part of the equation but what of the Christian Zionist footsoldiers? Also, the Military Industrial Complex. Clearly we have a very diverse group with a common purpose - WAR, WAR, & WAR.


It's connected as Ill explain later. No one finances the MIC more than ZIonisy Christian Churches. They are tax free and each sect gives Billions to Israel every year some even tens of billions, by investing in the corporate side of the occuapation in the MIC.

The civilian leaddership in the pentagon is something you might want to look at and Perle's special group.

No time late for a meeting write later.

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The Illuminati was created by Adam W, Im sure you are well aware.

Adam W was a Jesuit.
Adam W created the Illuminati as an invisible arm of the Jesuits.
During his time the Jesuits gathered a nasty reputation for infiltration and had been forced out by most civilised societies.

In the late 18th-early 19th centuries, Freemasonry was popular (as were many fraternal organizations), and its most significant opponent, the Roman Catholic Church, opposed its open support for freedom of religion and enlightenment ideals.

Enter Adam Weishaupt, who created the Illuminati in 1776 to infiltrate the American Freemasonry.

Adam W claimed hewas no longer with Jesuit Society, but it is far more likely that he remained loyal and created a sister organization that would be free of her tarnished image. The Illuminati in essence was just a subsidiary of the Jesuits, although its participants had no idea for the most part. But the enilightened ones served Adam W and Adam W served the Black Pope.

So Adam W created the Illuminati to infiltrate such groups as the Freemasons without the Illuminati or masons realizing that it was really Jesuits behind it all. Much like how the Mossad and CIA uses the orgainziations like the ISI so that Al-Qaeda patsies dont know they are really doing business with the devils they are sworn against.

The Jesuits also created all the cool ism's... Zionism, Nazism, Communism...
They created the communist party from the begining as an attempt to bring the Czar of Russia down.
And supposedly the Mad Monk Rasputin may have been a Jesuit agent working to undermine the Czar.

And we know now of the Catholic Churches complicity to the crimes being commited by the Nazi party, hell Hitler wouldnt have rose to power if it were not for the Catholic Church and the Nazi supporters here in the states, like the Bush family.

So while people are wrong to say that Illuminati is responsible for the worlds troubles, they still are partially right. As the Illuminati was created by those that really are at the source of all the trouble. The Jesuits.

Zionism is one of the final layers, but its not the last.
The very last layer is the Black Pope and his Jesuit soldiers.

Zionist is just like the Illuminati.
Its not really an organization, its more of a classification of a group of people and their mindset, a political movement. But it goes deeper than politics. Jewish Zionists, and Im speculating, are being led for the most part by Jews who may have accepted Chirst as their messiah and are knowingly or unknowingly working on behalf of the Catholic Church.

I mean we do have a president who thinks god speaks to him and that the end of the world is here. Look up Rolling Stone, Tim Lehay and Bush and see if you can find the article on Bush that shows how he was chosen to be president by these creepy Apocalyptical wishful thinkers.

If you have ever seen the re-release of the Manchurian Canidate, Zionists are like Meryl Streeps character, doing their evils for what they think is the greater good. But where do Zionists get their diehard ideals? From their church leaders.

Jewish Zionists couldnt have pulled off 9/11, only the corrupt Christian/ Catholic assholes in charge of this government could have.
The Jewish Zionists did however know of this plot, and may have even helped engineer it at the highest levels.

But at the very highest level who could have authorized it? Not by a guy like Ariel Sharon.
The Jesuits control our government, but all the blame falls on Israel. Just like how Bush blamed the bad intel on the Brits. All evidence is going to point to Israel and the invisible hand behind the scense will go unnoticed.

But they really dont like the Jews much more than the Arabs if you looked at the Jesuit oath, which states...

in order to further their cause they are to become so lowly as to become a Jew so they may preach from their pulpit.

And thats exactly what they did. That is where Zionism came from.
Compare these supposed protocols of Zion to the Jesuit oath, its either plagarism, or the Jesuits wrote it themselves, either to cause anti-semitism at the time, or the protocols or a variation of it does really exist, in which case it was still in all likelyhood written by the Jesuits.

Another is to rip the baby of the infidels from their mothers wombs and smash their skulls.
Praise Jesus.

Now if we want to talk real names of the individuals involved in 9/11 lets start with Jerome Hauer, Stephen Hatfield, KROLL, AIG, Mayor G, Cheney, Perle, Feith, Wolfowitz, Libby and Rummy.


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i dont know if any of the topmost neo-cons worship the devil- maybe willam kristol and irving kristol or staussian dicipals-

why do i say that- becuase its the struassian ideology as passed from leo struass that people (gentlemen) like bush are ripe for manipulation of thier noble position, honor and prestige and sought after distinction


K that's your speculation about Satan.
Now, Kristol and the other Jews who run the CFR are all amditted and open ZIonists. I can give you countless refferences to their veiws on Israel.

Who wrote PNAC? The same people who wrote the Israeli Clean Break papers.

PNAC was first written in Israel. It was Paul Wolowittz, Richard Perle, Lewis Libby, Douglas Feith, Bill Kristal (CFR) and Elliot Abrams (CFR) Aaron Friedberg also (CFR) Donald Kagan (CFR) Stephen Rosen (the AIPAC employee caught spying on the US!!) All Zionists and all Jewish. That's not anti-Semetic it's just the truth and what that means is they have dual citizenship and put the another nation's interests ahead of the US.

It's not "the devil" Its Zionist Judaism. It's not a secret, you don't have to speculate. They all opnely admit that they are Zionists and their track record speaks for itself. I mean come on they wrote the paper calling for Greater Israel. These people are leading the Zionist movement. You can't get any more Zionists than that. Oh and Add to that People like Rosen of APIC Israel's largest lobby being a PNAC author and getting caught spying on the US for Israel. Can the picture be made any more clear now that you are looking at Evidence instead of wild speculations?

I have plenty of other evidence to prove how the Zionist took us to war in Iraq and how the Israeli Mossad was part of the patsie frame up and how and when they were in the towers on 911.

But I will hold off until I hear the rest of this illuminati junk.


i already know about the plame affair, and the fact they are all zionists-


but from a religious persons perspective it look demoniac- even if they dont know it or are inherently athiest but believe evil is for the greater good-

wolfowitz, kristol and co all openly have said it-

wolfowitz and many others in the neocon establishemt were students or of the school of the philosopher leo strauss, they obviously believe in evil- becuase they justify it under an ideology called "hyper realism" that using evil and power is a reality of power and it is the right of the strong to rule over the weak, and saying evil is not bad becuase evil is inherant to power, so now they have justified evil is good.

its an ideology highly adopted by donald kagan and he learnt that from shulsky who learnt it from struass, being a self confessed follower of his doctrine...

it the thing that connects all the neo-cons together in their ideology,

kristol also believes in the "sugar coated realism" ideology which basically is the incorporationg of hyper realism into neo conservative politics and dressing it with faith in gods and topping it with a layer of nationalistic pride.....

its about using religiosity and the celebration of family values to dupe americans into accepting the neo-cons new responsibility in the world, basically to keep things interesting and giving america a revolutionary mission that will give ordinary people a new meaning in life, and take america out of the clutches of democratic liberalism,

this is all being done to accomplish the removal of limits placed on government power that has traditionally been a liberal mechanism, and by turning civil liberties and human rights against itself by getting americans to adopt terrorism as a reality and let them themselves renounce that which keeps americans free.

struass advocated the "subverting of democracy from within" doctrine- as a neccassary good- a "noble lie" a "pious deception" that will ensure the outright control of the "wise few" those who command the gentemanly class of citizenry, those highest in status and prestige, who are full of honor and clamour for distiction, polluted in egocentricity and a warped sence of faith in god and country are the perfect pawns to carry out the whims of the neo-cons agenda for a new american cultural revolution- the neo-cons send them the messege that they should rule becuase of thier qualities, then they go into dream state and just follow the struass doctrine as presented by the more advanced straussian neo-cons.

to create a nationalism and a passion for americas role in the world- thier plan for radical change- to create the naccessary drive for the new american century, to leave behind the liberal "feel good era" and accept the new republican conservative "era of responsibility"

An era of stability, heirachy, subservience, authority, dicipline, and conformity....

by the way leo strauss the father of this highly popular doctrine in acedemic communities and spawning the school of students most of whome are given direct entry into the halls of power... IS ALSO A ZIONIST.... he also had run ins with many influential people like edward L bernays- nephew of sigmund frued who is the father of the modern PR industry.....

read up on this guy- his doctrines and philosophies has a definate marked impact on the actions and policies of the bush administration- its like leo strauss wrote the script-

read political ideas of leo strauss by shadia b drury- have you watched the "power of nightmares"? the one about osama bin laden and fake terrorism? leo struass is mentioned quite throughly and the program even nabbed some candid interviews with kristol, pearle and co on thier thoughts on leo strauss and how much of an impact his politics had on current neo-con affairs- infact its the prevailing ideology of the neo-cons..... its the best way to learn thier psychology....


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nice long rant without any evuidence or sources and nothing not a thing about 911 or the war in Iraq.

Communism and Nazism were not created by the same people and ZIonism is much older than Adam W.

Kristol Wolfowitz and Kagan are all Jews. Its not satan its just the Jewish religion. Religion is sick. Yes tit is evil, but that does not make it devil worship. If you want to measure evil deeds then the Jews have a long way to go before even being close to the wicked things Christians have done to people all over the world.

WHat you're doing here is trying to paint ZIonists as Satanic (because they do evil stuff and follow Leon Strauss) and then call the satanic group the illuminati. Basically its yet another way of just re-naming the ZIonists the illuminati. WHich I stated in the forst post that was not igoing to work.

I can give you clear evidence way beyond just the Plame Affair and AIPAC spy rings and Atta double which show how the Zionist created this war and the Mossad made 911 happen. But I will hold my tongue still until I can get some more illuminati folks in here to try and gove a case of their cult like theory which orgininated from Protestant preachers.

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