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adam1
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Post subject:  Posted: Sat Dec 29, 2007 3:08 pm |
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islamic-s@hotmail wrote: In heaven you will never die, get sick or anything of that , you even stay the same age .
nonononooo lol that's a very simplistic understanding of heaven.
It's a different realm, different rules apply.
Life/death, health/sickness, time and age are matters within this temporal-spacial universe... not outside of it.
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Bender
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Post subject: Posted: Sat Dec 29, 2007 8:56 pm |
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So, when in heaven you can forget about life.
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ledskof
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Post subject: Posted: Sat Dec 29, 2007 9:26 pm |
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Not me Phys. I wanna live for as long as I want, not have the choice made for me by chance or any other reason. The problem is that the choice to just be alive forever isn't really there yet. But when it is, I'll be happy. We'll always have our suicide switch... anyhow when you're dead you no longer get to even think about whether or not you'd like to still be alive haha.
Quote: In heaven you will never die, get sick or anything of that , you even stay the same age .
Yes that almost makes sense, since dying requires a body and a living organism. And this heaven location is completely conjecture where having no living human body is generally always understood to be the case.
No thanks.
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The state destroys everything and then blames those who interact voluntarily for that destruction."
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islamic-s
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Post subject: Posted: Sun Dec 30, 2007 5:25 pm |
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Quote: In heaven you will never die, get sick or anything of that , you even stay the same age . Yes that almost makes sense, since dying requires a body and a living organism. And this heaven location is completely conjecture where having no living human body is generally always understood to be the case. No thanks.[/quote]
lol what makes you so sure ??? have you been to heaven ?? im not sayin i was but im saying its possible for a place to exist out side the rules we grew up to learn .... the creator of all can create whatever _________________ You can fool all of the people some of the time, and some of the people all of the time, but you can't fool all the people all of the time.
Abraham Lincoln
In the Quran, God has said:
“God does not forbid you from showing kindness and dealing justly with those who have not fought you about religion and have not driven you out of your homes. God loves JUST actions.” (_Quran 60:8_)
To kill an innocent life it is as if you killed humanity ,to save an innocent life is as if you saved humanity ... the blessed Quran...
http://Islamic-s.webs.com
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islamic-s
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Post subject: Posted: Sun Dec 30, 2007 5:27 pm |
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adam1 wrote: islamic-s@hotmail wrote: In heaven you will never die, get sick or anything of that , you even stay the same age . nonononooo lol that's a very simplistic understanding of heaven. It's a different realm, different rules apply. Life/death, health/sickness, time and age are matters within this temporal-spacial universe... not outside of it. your right different rules apply, not the rules of earth though , the rules of heaven is to please all it occupants from what i understood. _________________ You can fool all of the people some of the time, and some of the people all of the time, but you can't fool all the people all of the time.
Abraham Lincoln
In the Quran, God has said:
“God does not forbid you from showing kindness and dealing justly with those who have not fought you about religion and have not driven you out of your homes. God loves JUST actions.” (_Quran 60:8_)
To kill an innocent life it is as if you killed humanity ,to save an innocent life is as if you saved humanity ... the blessed Quran...
http://Islamic-s.webs.com
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islamic-s
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Post subject: Posted: Mon Dec 31, 2007 3:31 am |
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Tim wrote: In Islam, who do you believe created the Almighty Creator? Was he just there forever and finally decided after 1600 years to reveal himself to Muhammad in a cave outside Mecca? yes the creator existed before the creation and that messages have always been sent to mankind and that the one to mohammad (AS) is the last one to be sent. _________________ You can fool all of the people some of the time, and some of the people all of the time, but you can't fool all the people all of the time.
Abraham Lincoln
In the Quran, God has said:
“God does not forbid you from showing kindness and dealing justly with those who have not fought you about religion and have not driven you out of your homes. God loves JUST actions.” (_Quran 60:8_)
To kill an innocent life it is as if you killed humanity ,to save an innocent life is as if you saved humanity ... the blessed Quran...
http://Islamic-s.webs.com
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islamic-s
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Post subject: Posted: Thu Jan 03, 2008 11:09 am |
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Tim wrote: But none of us truly know where the Creator himself came from. i understand this argument, but its not for us to question where the energy source of our universe came from ,we need to worry about where we came from first ,when we meet the maker we can ask directly because no one has the answer to this question except the creator _________________ You can fool all of the people some of the time, and some of the people all of the time, but you can't fool all the people all of the time.
Abraham Lincoln
In the Quran, God has said:
“God does not forbid you from showing kindness and dealing justly with those who have not fought you about religion and have not driven you out of your homes. God loves JUST actions.” (_Quran 60:8_)
To kill an innocent life it is as if you killed humanity ,to save an innocent life is as if you saved humanity ... the blessed Quran...
http://Islamic-s.webs.com
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Int'l man of mystery
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Post subject: Posted: Thu Jan 03, 2008 11:44 am |
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ledskof wrote: Yes that almost makes sense, since dying requires a body and a living organism. And this heaven location is completely conjecture where having no living human body is generally always understood to be the case.
No thanks.
Not necessarily. The belief is that people don't really enter Paradise until after they are resurrected. When they are resurrected, they would have a new, living human body, to enter it in.
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islamic-s
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Post subject: Posted: Sat Jan 05, 2008 3:05 pm |
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Tim wrote: I'm not arguing, I'm just saying. Let's say Idie and do meet my creator like you say.. Will I end up burning in hell? According to Christians I will for not believing in Jesus as the son of God, and according to Islam I will because I didn't pray 5 times a day or follow the five pillars. It sounds nice to worship and have a paradise afterlife but how is that fair for those who believe in something different? One thing greatly misunderstood about Islam is how merciful god is, even though god reminds us in the beginning of every chapter about his mercy. Technically your right tim, but not just you will burn, i might burn as well, every soul will paid for their actions, but also we will receive our rewards and from what i understand, the rewards are much greater then the punishment. God teachs in Islam the mercy will always come before punishment. Islam teachs that god is the most just judge mankind would ever face, the main important principal when you look at all religions, is to acknowledge the creator. Islam offers a system of outstanding rewards in the after life if one lives for the betterment of others in this life time. True Islam is to surrender all worldly materialism to the betterment of humanity, one can never have any real gain in this temporary world. _________________ You can fool all of the people some of the time, and some of the people all of the time, but you can't fool all the people all of the time.
Abraham Lincoln
In the Quran, God has said:
“God does not forbid you from showing kindness and dealing justly with those who have not fought you about religion and have not driven you out of your homes. God loves JUST actions.” (_Quran 60:8_)
To kill an innocent life it is as if you killed humanity ,to save an innocent life is as if you saved humanity ... the blessed Quran...
http://Islamic-s.webs.com
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