Anti-Neocons

Oh yeah, Christians worship a Jewish god and savior. What does that tell you?

Christians killed 65 million in World War 2 (1939-1945)
Christians dropped two nuclear bombs on two cities in Japan non-combatants
No clue how many people Christians killed in World War 1, the Civil War or the mass murder of millions of Natives.
Christians are helping Zionist kill Arabs daily in Palestine
Shall we already forget Iraq?

Fucken dumbasses. I could give a ratass less about the Muslim faith but to say that it is the MOST violent religion is a far stretch and doesn’t line up with the facts asshole.

None of these had anything to do with Christianity. The motives for these conflicts were not religious at all..

The others however, you can make a arguable case that christianity played a roll, but an obscure one at best.

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What do you suggest it had to do with? It was always commie atheist. Why do you think we have have in god we trust on our money? Dont worry Islam has its share of violence too, but not really the point I was making. Dawkin's loving atheist was the group I was addressing. Here is a list you can spend some time chopin up. This list is Muslim on Muslim violence btw.


- 50,000 Tajikistan, 1992-96 (secularists against Islamists)
- 40,000 Chad, 1982-90
- 25,000 Jordan government vs. Palestinians, 1970-71 (Black September)
- 20,000 Syria, 1982 (against Islamists in Hama)
- 10,000 South Yemen, 1986 (civil war)
- 16,000 Western Sahara, 1975-present
- 75,000 Iraq, 2003-present (domestic)
- 80,000 Iran, 1978-79 (revolution)
- 100,000 North Yemen, 1962-70
- 140,000 Kuwait War, 1990-91
- 150,000 Lebanon civil war, 1975-90
- 150,000 Liberia, 1989-97
- 300,000 Iraq, 1970-2003 (Saddam against minorities)
- 300,000 Kurds in Iraq, Iran, Turkey, 1980s-1990s
- 400,000 Somalia, 1991-present
- 200,000 Algeria, 1991-2006 (between Islamists and the government)
- 1,000,000 Iran-Iraq-War, 1980-88
- 1,100,000 Nigeria, 1966-79 (Biafra); 1993-present
- 1,900,000 Sudan, 1955-72; 1983-2006 (civil wars, genocides)

What most wars and conflicts throughout history had to do with. Money, power, land. fame.

uh, maybe because the founding fathers were Christian.



Similar to the cases you mentioned earlier, these conflicts also have little or nothing do with Islam.

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You just saying that Zul doesnt make it so. Just the facts.

Muslim on Muslim violence no doubt about it. Regardless of what one may claim a religion represents, it is only as good or as bad as the people that represents it. Again, this argument is not with you.

The facts show that the conflicts being discussed did not have much of or any religious motivation.

This is no different than saying the "X' race has killed and robbed "Y" amount of people, therefore "X" race is bad. This is primitive thinking.

Humanity has been in conflict throughout it's entire history, the exclusion of religion from political discourse has not changed this trend one bit. In fact, it has accelerated it to another level. The past century describes this quite well. The mass murder of humans orchestrated by secular regimes is devastatingly high.

I don't know why you feel that you have a moral high ground here. History does not support your argument.

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This is fallacious reasoning. According to this logic, if Muslims start eating pork, this must mean that Islam encourages eating pork. But as we know, it's explicitly forbidden. Or if a Muslim opens up a alcohol business in a poor neighbourhood, then this must mean that Islam encourages selling alcohol and exploiting people. Or if X amount of Muslims rape women, then this must mean that Islam encourages rape. Absolute, utter nonsense.

A religion is judged by its ideals. The followers are judged by how well they meet this ideal. This explanation that somehow if a person kills another person, his religion is to be blamed is absurd. It's an argument for the layman, the simple minded. The intellectual knows there is alot more there beneath the surface.

Now i'm not denying religion has not played any part in conflicts and wars. Tragically it has played a significant role. But the examples you cited are some grand claims which lack substantial evidence.

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