Anti-Neocons

People who uphold what is written (truely and fully) in the scriptures are a rare thing, Ry you might be sickened by the idea of God or think he is sadistic but this can onlly bre because of the sick shit people have done in the name of God. Yea there is rationalization, please don't use the unicorn analogy, I find that to be as offensive as Micheal Richards rant must of been against those black guys. I have always found it strange that people don't understand that the old new and final testaments all say the exact same message (with some differences which are always explained in the text). Instead of Believers of the Abrahamic faith saying we are all brothers in faith, each claims one another to be obsolete or false, its the work of bad will. Basically what I am saying the scriptures can be correctly interpreted to reveal way of peaceful living between all people, or incorrectyly interpreted to suggest that the believers in each scripture must dominate another. Sadly the latter is what have seen more of.

I thought Europe was more of a traditional Roman Catholic or traditional Protestant, and not like,...

Anglicans, Lutherans, Reformed/Presbyterians, Congregational/United Church of Christ, Evangelical, Charismatic, Baptists, Methodists, Nazarenes, Anabaptists, Seventh-day Adventists and Pentecostals etc...etc..etc...


you know what I mean, I find a major difference in European and American churches, don't know how to explain it really, and if I did i would end up writting a novel so i'll just go to bed now.

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actually unicorns are in the bible so its not an exaggeration.

You can try to make a "true" meaning if you want. The bible/korran/torrah never means what it says it always says whatever you mean.

People are not doing bad things just in gods name. Consider for a second that thate really isn't a god. Those people are just doing bad things and justifying it with a "divine" force.

Its crap, what good has come from religion? The bads FAR far out weight the goods. And on another note thats not even theissue, we are talking about what is true and not true and religious texts are so far from the true that they have to be treated like poems and constantly change what they "mean" in order to fit with current science.

Where are the dinosaurs? Why does the sun go around the erath ect. well when people believed the sun went around the earth it meant what it said but NOW we know the earth goes around the sun so the "interpritation" of scripture becomes poetic again and means the exact opposite of what it says. The text for all three of those monotheistic faiths support slavery and sexism.

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I think the relation between Zionism and Present day Christianity is a good reason. Most Christians believe that Israel has to exist for the second coming of Jesus(as). So slandering the nation like it is here definetly turns them off.

I think being anti-Zionism and against Israel is a contradiction of their belief. Almost every Christian i've met has defended Israel, some through biblical means and the Arabs are seen as the bad guys, simply because they are ones opposed to God's Chosen People.

Don't get your hopes up.

And interpreting Religious scripture in light of the present political environment is very dangerous. This is something Christians are guilty of. I mean i'm Shia Muslim, but i look at Iran & Ahmedinijed with deep skepticism, because i don't know what the man's true intentions here, teaming up with David Duke and what not. I don't trust these politicians man, whether they are Jewish, Christian, Muslim, Secular.

The zionists have done a great job of brainwashing Christinians into believing 9/11 conspiracies but Alex Jones style. They still think it was extemist Muslims on those planes, they still think Palestinians just hate Jews and that's why there are "terrorists" in Palestine, they still think Muslims are hopeless and that the Muslim countries were always backward and weak without any western interference at all. They use the bible as justification and think that we are the way we are today because we are not "saved".

You have to find some kind of way to convince these Christians that Churches and U.S is responsible for the horrors going on right now and that choice is up to you. They either...

1) Don't care
2) Don't want to give up thier wedged in beliefs
3) Don't realize exactly how horrible this situation is
4) Hate Arabs
5) Hate Muslims

I will stick to spreading Islam, as I think this is the best way of making people more aware. According to statistics, the rapid growth of Islam will mean that by 2014 more than half the world's population will be Muslim (assuming the rate doesn't change, it might get higher or lower). This means that these people will look into the Palestine issue and realize just what's going on.

If you don't agree that's fine, either way we can see that the Zionists are getting screwed.


And they know it.

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Ahmedinijed is a good guy, he is the ONLY good president in any of the Muslim countries of ME or Asia. Don't believe the stories people tell you about the "totalitarian" Iranian society or the famous yellow stars story which many people still believe is true.

Just because he mixes Islam with politics doesn't mean anything, especially since Islam is meant to be in politics.



Turkey is a secular Muslim country that thinks it's a good idea to stay that way and kiss Europe's ass. Do you know what they say about Palestinians? They blame everything on "Islamofascism". They also claim to be "progressive" and "elite" because of secularism, even though it was thier Ottoman ancestors (that believed in the system of the khaliphate) that sparked progress in Europe and were called the "undefeatable army" by the British.

If you're going to believe in a religion you believe wholeheartingly in it's theocratic state, if that state doesn't workout than that means there's a problem in the religion itself.

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unfortunately I think its is all 5. I dont think Islam is spreading at all in the West, the numbers are just showing that the third world has lots of babies. And a lot of people move to Europe. I dont think it will matter. The Catholics in South America will have just as many kids. Basically people are born into a religion (thus why they are so neetly reginal) and get warped by their parents and community very very few people actually choose a different religion or one at all that is whole different from what they were raised to believe in, they change sects they might become atheists, but few change from Christian to Muslim or Muslim to Jewish or Jewish to Hendu etc. I mean once you find out your religion was crap you tend to apply it to the rest of them including Zeus, Allah, Athena, Khrishna, HOrace, Rah, Isis, Yahweh, Jehova or a tree in your back yard, it all collapses.

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Liberalism is quite a new foundation for ways of life. But to say that the God-worship has not progressed the human race in a positive way I would have to tell you are wrong. God-worship perhaps saved the human race in history. God-worship led to collective organized civilization that work together and live and advance together. Now you may try to that religion was the ultimate mind control, but no believer truely feels motivated by any other "person", instead they are motivated by what is said and felt to be right. Sexism can be found in genetics and history, men are naturally stronger, women naturally weaker, Men naturally dominant, women naturally not dominant. I am saying this because it is scientifically proven. There has never been a women dominated civilization (maybe ancient Egypt) or at least a weakly dominated one. In reality the good far outweighs the bad. Now if you want to introduce liberalism you would have to rearrange what has naturally occured in the human psyche for 3500+ years, and that is emotion, feeling of what is right and what is wrong, in liberalism all these values are in fact based of the religious texts. Would you say man should refute what has been correct for so many thousands of years?

I didn't know unicorns were in the bible till now, are you sure it is not an allegory? as the bible is full of these. For instance some may transltae Noah storys that he had a gigantic boat which held all the animal of the earth. In reality it was a small boat, and he saved the animals that he had raised and were in his area. Bible story (enhanced by man, which is a nono) has changed. The talk of flood took a small are but the story was presented to describe make it feel almost mythological.

Good people can come together and find out the truth behind the verses. This has already happened.

When you say that our interpretations have changed with modern science discovers new,this blame should be shifted on arrogance of men. YOu see the text as you know are open to interprtation, and they neve truly define anything but moral and social law. Just because the group of christians does believe the world is round isn't round. Yes the Bible often says "four corners of the earth" or "ends of the earth". Does this mean that the earth has ends, or simply talk (allegory) which describes the vast reach God has, as in there is no where in Earth one can hide. If I say I am going to chase you to the ends of the earth, do I mean I am going to meet you at a huge wall at one part of the earth, or do I mean I will find you no matter where you go? Do you understand, it is allegorical, and it has always been this way.

True slavery is supported in the Bible. But slaves are also told to be treated well and just. Men have almost never done this. It never says believing slaves are subhuman or inferior. The fact of the matter is slavery has been necessary for humans to reach the technological point they have reached today, perhaps even the survival of the race. I am not justifying no longer today because there is no need for it. We have advanced so greatly in technology that there is absolutely no need for slavery. And when I say slavery was needed, the Bible say slaves should not be put to too great a burden (one which the master cannot handle himself) and should be treated well (so well that he would feel comfortble and feel no inclination to leave). Slavery is done for labor purposes, you could say that lower class citzens are slaves to higher class citizens in modern society. The common truth behind all of these verses is the interpretation that does not contradict itself when encompassing the scripture in its full ENTIRETY.

The human is a miracle. We have no doubt shown that we are a unique species. We can break the walls of what is around us where as other organisms cannot. Dinosaurs survived for alomst 140 millions years but they did evolve into an uniquely intelligent species. Humans began (maybe I am not sure if this is accurate) to evolve separately maybe 6.5 million years ago, yeat they have evolved into a superiorly intelligent race. This is a miracle, or in scientific terms very very unique. A certain kind of agnostiscm arrises here, to me at least, and the scriptures fulfill that agnostiscm for me.