Anti-Neocons

I am glad to see this site is growing in readership and participation especially among Muslims. What baffles me is, where are all the Christians? Sure we have a few but come on given the make up of most English speaking countries, they should be the overwhelming majority. I hope my Atheism didn"t scare them away. You know people can agree on politics regardless of which invisible man or lack there of they beleve in.

I have a feeling that I know where most the Christians are, those not following Bush and wrapped up in a more fairly tale like appealing of an Alex Jones type which can keep the dichotomy of good verses evil and remove all blame from mainstream Christian Churches for supporting Zionism (something he wont even mention on any of his sites) which is a reality, you can check any major sect and trace the money online. Here I have already done it.

I am going to be realistic, and not ask people to drop the perversion of sunworhip all together, but I am wondering if I should start making excuses for christians in such away to get them to support anti-zionsim but avoid their responsibility and complicity in supporting it?

I am just being prgmatic here. Face it one tiny wing of the Christians and Jews is all Bush and company have left. How do we get them to drop their support? It wont be by explaining that their religion is a bunch of bullshit, that is just not going to fly and if you ever talk to a person defending their religion its like talking about who would win between star trek and star wars to one of the cult-like fans of either one. Reason and evidence have left the building and emotional hissy-fits and rationalizations are all you are left with.

"I knw unicorns are real because I saw one in this picture book. How could a person draw one if they were not real? His idea had to come from somewhere and something can"t come from nothing so he must has seen a real unicorn. " That is the kind of back-ass logic you come across. Or when it says to beat your slaves with a rod (Ex 21:20) when they disobey but not to kill them, what it really means is ....uh not to beat your slaves...or um I mean not to have slaves... or um see the word "slave" actually means the devil and it is talking about breaking bad habits."

riiight or the book was written by a man and it IS about slaves as is evident by the over 1,800 years practise of owning them and about 50 bible passages, and the reason it is wrong is because (a) there is no god or (b) even if there was a god it had nothing to do with the writing of the bible. (which is clear my the thousands of mistakes and insane/immoral claims made in it. Or (c) there is a god and it is one sadistic fuck.

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I dunno man, I hate mixing politics and religion, straight up. Religion just gets in the way. I mean, I am a practicing Muslim but I just don't like to get into arguments or debate about it especially on political sites such as this, simply because it completely overtakes the basis of what we are all gathered here to do....Fight the Neo-cons. Have we lost sight of our goal? I mean look what happened in the "What is your religion?" thread. It was clearly stated that we should mention what our religion is and move on...yeah, didn't quite go as planned. Although religion has much to do with the way each individual views the world and the creatures living in it, I believe we can relate to one another on a more basic, mature level sans religion-bashing and silly name calling. How does that make us any different than say, uh...the very group of ppl that we are trying to expose?

Ok, it's 3 am and I don't even know what, if any, of my post relates to or answers Ry's post, but I think I'm gonna go to sleep now before I really start to spew nonsense (that's if i haven't already, but i'll let you all be the judge of that, lol)

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I dont care what a person's religion is, what I am put off by is the lack of Christians on this site. I mean its almost entirerly Secular or Muslim. It shows to me the connection between faith and politics. Christians in general can and will not face up to their leadership supporting Zionism and the War.

Seriously though where are all the Christians? It might just be that to be an adult and a Christian and intelligence is like finding a 7 foot Japaenes guy but hey they do exist. But normally people who can see through the left vs Right paradigm can see thorugh the crap that is christianity.

for example Islam, Deism, and Buddhism are far more respectable in terms of sanity and philosophy (albeit stuck on supernatural answers)

I really do think the Christians are swallowed up by Alex Jones types (that is the bulk of his audience) and I do believe that is why he will never mention Israel or Zionism. Because those roads lead right back to Christian churches and no not just the "frindge" elements.

so that is why it matters.

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the lack of christians is that they are the most brainwashed one's out there. They are the one's who think that all muslims are terrorists. The type of christian that would be comming on this site, is the type that is born christian but does not practice, kind of like myself(cept i'm French Catholic). I find Christians are too proud to Be american, and so patriotic that they will only beleive what they are fed on CNN.

Thats just what I think.

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yeah I get the feeling that the kind of Christians we get here are in title only like they were raised as such but dont really follow any religion they just sort of believe in "a" god and nit necessarily the christian one that's that.

We still have more American readers on this site than anywhere else and I assume many are Christians but as far as the writers go it seems to be mostly atheist and recently more and more Muslims who I assume will become the majority one day.

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There are more muslims on this site because we share a common goal, anti-neocon. The neocons accused 'us' muslims for terrorism and such - I know that isn't the case. We're patsys. So I'm here because I share a common goal.

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ok, im back and more alert than i was last night, lol...but i think i began to answer the question when i first started writing my last post but like i always do, i carried on and went on a completely different tangent. but anyways, yeah it's much more difficult for christians to even grasp the whole 9/11 plot because it goes against any and everything they have been force fed their whole lives. so, i completely agree with the last few posts when you say that what happens is that you'll find ppl that are christians by name or by birth, but when it comes down to it, they're not really practicing christians b/c to practice christianity and believe in what we're talking about here completely contradict eachother in almost every aspect...I dont think we'll be getting many "real" christians here, but for the few that actually open up their eyes and realize that there is corruption everywhere, even the church (more so in the church, really) i say congratulations, and good job!

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"Whoever kills another one without justifiable cause, surely he is killing all of humanity. And whoever saves the life of another one, surely he saves the lives of all of humanity." [The Holy Qur'an, Sura Al Ma'aidah: Ayah 32]

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- Ralph Waldo Emerson

People who uphold what is written (truely and fully) in the scriptures are a rare thing, Ry you might be sickened by the idea of God or think he is sadistic but this can onlly bre because of the sick shit people have done in the name of God. Yea there is rationalization, please don't use the unicorn analogy, I find that to be as offensive as Micheal Richards rant must of been against those black guys. I have always found it strange that people don't understand that the old new and final testaments all say the exact same message (with some differences which are always explained in the text). Instead of Believers of the Abrahamic faith saying we are all brothers in faith, each claims one another to be obsolete or false, its the work of bad will. Basically what I am saying the scriptures can be correctly interpreted to reveal way of peaceful living between all people, or incorrectyly interpreted to suggest that the believers in each scripture must dominate another. Sadly the latter is what have seen more of.