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 Post subject: 'Honour' crimes against women in UK rising rapidly
 Post Posted: Sat Dec 03, 2011 4:26 am 
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Statistics from police forces detailing numbers of crimes planned and carried out by families or communities reveals 47% rise
http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2011/dec/0 ... -uk-rising

shit like this happens all the time. why do muslims have children for, most of them do a such a shit job, crime stats and school grades stats prove this.

any parent that puts their child through a forced marriage or is violent towards them because of family 'honour' clearly has no love for their child

before anybody tries to accuse me of being racist lemme just point out that my parents are muslims.#

anyways, tiz a v. sad article.

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why? because they're fucking crazy that's why. Religion is a polite term for mental illness.

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 Post subject: Re: 'Honour' crimes against women in UK rising rapidly
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For those who ask I think the toplessness is about breaking taboo. and for attention duh whatever works.

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But it's just 'cultural'

exactly aka no matter what we do its ok so long as a group does it then its culture thus nothing is ever right or wrong never mind that it is in the UK and the UK also has a culture of its own with its own laws and customs so who is invading on who there? fuck "culture" that shits on women.

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 Post subject: Re: 'Honour' crimes against women in UK rising rapidly
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Tim wrote:
But it's just 'cultural'. :roll:


the people that do stuff like that say that it is religion not culture. besides the punishment for having sex before marriage in islam is 100 lashes, that is enough to kill someone or cause some serious injury, that is written in the quran and no muslim can deny that.

even when i was religious (like praying 5 times a day, fasting in ramadan, reading quran in english and arabic daily, going on pilgramage, etc etc etc) i still thought that honour crimes were f-ing insane, yet often the most secular/unobservent muslims commit or think honour crimes are normal.

i had a stereotypical oppressed upbringing, it was a real horror, the only reason i haven't wrote a book about it is because my story would be far from unique and everybody would just yawn. non-muslim british girls just don't realise how lucky they are.

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how did you get out of it I am curious because I think religion is a mental illness I am wondering what broke it for you and got you out of talking to your hand or the floor 5 times a day avoiding pigs, reading gibberish etc.

What broke Christianity for me was reading the Bible.

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 Post subject: Re: 'Honour' crimes against women in UK rising rapidly
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i dunno, when i was 11 and was exposed to other religions i thought they can't all be right and i was a atheist for a few years back then, i did come from a seriously dysfunctional family with insane parents and was so depressed at the time, i sunk into a black hole and couldn't get out of it, i couldn't think straight and felt like a zombie so i reverted back at around the age of 14, at the age of 15 i started to read a lot about islam and other religions and at 17 i pretty much made my mind up after seeing endless contradictions and strange things in every religion. but when your a muslim rejecting it is not an option as like a 1/3 of uk muslims think it ok to kill apostates (and it only takes one to get rid of you), so what ya do is twice a year dress up for eid and spend all day eating, the rest of the year you get on with your normal life, i know a lot of people that do that.

I only discuss controversial issues on the forum, my real life is pretty normal and mainstream.

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Ry wrote:
What broke Christianity for me was reading the Bible.

At what age did you read it?

Coming from an atheist family it's interesting to hear from people who've grown up with religion.


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being brought up in a religion is like being under a spell, for most people the spell is never broken.

and if ya family is deeply religious and dysfunctional (like mine was) the emotional scars are with you for life :(

contemporary christian families imo are mostly normal nice people. you rarely hear horror stories about them the way you would hear about muslim women.

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