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In the past I have listed dozens of these and I thi kit is overwhelming so I will just put this one quote down for people to see how disgusting the Torrah and Old Testament are.

Sex Slaves (Exodus 21:7-11)

When a man sells his daughter as a slave, she will not be freed at the end of six years as the men are. If she does not please the man who bought her, he may allow her to be bought back again. But he is not allowed to sell her to foreigners, since he is the one who broke the contract with her. And if the slave girl's owner arranges for her to marry his son, he may no longer treat her as a slave girl, but he must treat her as his daughter. If he himself marries her and then takes another wife, he may not reduce her food or clothing or fail to sleep with her as his wife. If he fails in any of these three ways, she may leave as a free woman without making any payment. (Exodus 21:7-11)

Now obviously Christians and Jews don't approve of this, just goes to show how few of them actually read their texts.

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I really don't see how pointing out an obsolete passage from the Bible proves that nobody reads. I will repost my response to your 'dozens' of posts from passages taken out of context and reworded to fit your anti-bible rants.

Ry, the meaning of these scriptures, especially the word slave, is critical to understanding this controversy. For example, in the King James version, the most widely used version in the 1700 and 1800s in America when slavery existed, the word slave was used only once (Jer 2:14), and the word slaves also was used only once (Rev 18:13). Conversely, servant, servants, and other similar words were used almost a thousand times. Therefore, the question “Does the Bible condone slavery” first requires defining the word slave.

"Slavery" in the Bible is actually an ancient form of indentured servitude. Basically, an indentured servant is someone who does services like manual labor or something else in exchange for food and shelter, provided by the master. Slavery is not necessary now as it was then. Times have changed just a little in the two or three thousand years since the Old and New Testament days.
Saying that “God gave guidelines on the treatment of slaves" does not prove that there should be slaves. Slaves WERE a necessary evil which we can definitely live without. The guidelines, when they were used, helped to ease the inhumanity of being a slave. We have rules for war, but that does not make warfare a necessity.
Simply put, life was definitely not as simple as it is today. The Hebrews back then lived "hand-to-mouth". They didn't work for profit, they worked to survive. But an indentured servant was GUARANTEED food and a home, in exchange for doing work. This may have been the most fair and humane option for a family.

It is true that Slavery was an accepted practice in biblical times by many cultures not just Hebrews and later Christians (as well as many cultures thereafter). The greater question is Does God approve of Slavery? Consider Paul in his letter to Philemon about his slave (and brother in Christ) Onesimus. Paul simply put, did not promote slavery.

The argument that the bible condones and promotes slavery has been used before. It was used by people of the seceded south to justify their use of slaves. Now I’m sure you wouldn’t want to use the same argument that the bible condones slavery as these bigots right Ry?
The truth is that in Christianity, God created all humans as equal; none is superior to another.

It’s funny you say that “There are thousands of religions there is only one atheism”. The truth is that many atheists hold many variations on their beliefs just as many monotheistic religions also do. Islam, Judaism and Christianity all worship the same God but obviously there are many differences to their religions. The same is true among atheists. They don’t all believe exactly the same as you state. For example there are some that believe in evolution where as others hold other beliefs that involve extra terrestrials as well as other variations on human origins.



Regarding homosexuality in the bible your misquotes didn’t help your argument. 1 Timothy verses 9-10 say this:

“Knowing this, that the law is not made for a righteous man, but for the lawless and disobedient, for the ungodly and for sinners, for unholy and profane, for murderers of fathers and murderers of mothers, for manslayers,
For whoremongers, for them that defile themselves with mankind, for menstealers, for liars, for perjured persons, and if there be any other thing that is contrary to sound doctrine.”
This in no way makes mention to homosexuality.

Again misquoting the bible in another one of your quotes.
1 Corinthians versus 6-10 says the following:

“Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind,
10 Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God.”

By replacing certain words with homosexual it doesn’t help your argument.

Even if the bible did not approve of homosexuality, which I believe is false, it doesn’t state anywhere that we should hate these people. Everyone deserves God’s love according to the bible and ‘gay-bashing’, hating or treating a homosexual less than human is NEVER made mention of in the bible.

Finally regarding the ‘Divine Right of Kings’;

In the Epistle to the Romans, chapter 13, Paul wrote that earthly rulers, even though they may not be Christians, have been appointed by God to their places of power for the purpose of punishing evildoers. Some Biblical scholars believe that Paul was writing, in part, to reassure the Roman authorities who ruled his world that the Christian movement was not subversive. This simply means that Paul didn’t want to make the Christian movement seem like it was going to overthrow the Government. The difficulty posed for later Christians is that the New Testament contained no explicit plan for the government of a mostly Christian society. This is why you won't find that we should have a Republic and vote and that Kings are just ordinary men. It assumed that Christians would always be a minority in a pagan world, and its political counsel was limited mostly to advising members to obey the law and stay out of the way of pagan government. In the western world it came to be associated with Roman Catholicism and other Christian faiths in the Reformation period. The notion of divine right of kings was certainly in existence in the medieval period, however it was in the early modern era, under the ancient régime, that the notion became extensively used as a primarily political mechanism, i.e. for increasing the power of kings within centralized monarchies relative to their nobles and subjects. It was given its most comprehensive formulations by the French bishop Bossuet and King James I of England, but it owes much to the earlier writings of Augustine of Hippo and Paul of Tarsus. Again, the twisting of the Bible for personal and political gain. Happened then, happens now.

Please understand that the essence of Christianity is forgivness and love. Most importantly remember that some things were put in the Bible to show us how NOT to act and some things were put in the Bible to show us how we SHOULD act. With each are also shown consequences and rewards, be it negative or positive. I hope this helps clear things up for you.

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doent this go to the religion section?

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buddy it is not taken out of context as you claim. The Christian kingdoms openly practised slavery for 1800 years and so did the Jews. We have close to 2000 years of history to prove they damn well meant and practiced slavery.



That is bullshit the word slaves is used way more than one time and I can show it to you in a KJV Bible.



This is also crap. The Persians didn't have slaves in fact that is who freed the Hebrew slaves from Egypt/Babylon. Or excuse me the Hebrew "indentured servants". Yeh it was Cyrus the second not God.
Aslo guess who spoke out against slavery at this same time 5,000 years ago....Buddah.

First of all they had both cattle slaves and indentured servents both of which are wrong. No one should Sell his daughter for anything. The Jewish armies were openly instructed to rape captives and inslave people.



Yes The OLD Testament god (Judaism) approves of Slavery as 2 of the Ten Commandments mention it and the next chapter Ex 21:20 gives instructions on how you are to hard you are allowed to beat them when they disobey you. Paul was not even born. Paul had a slave that is bad enough then he wanted to have him recieved as a brother in particular because he loved him. So what. The guy who wrote the majority of the NT was a slave owner and many bishops think also a homosexual. He never stated we should free all slaves or its an evil institution. But Peter and Timothy and other NT writers sure did promote slavery. And Paul Practised it.



I am not using that arguement because I say the bible is crap. Yes it DOES say those things but who cares the Bible is bullsht. It also has talking animals and an man with magic hair and stupid stories about contests with sorcerors and askes people to hunt down witches. It has a Earth centered solar system and a long list of scientific contradiction including a ridiculous creation story.

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You sure have one fucked up view of Christianity; were you raped by a professor at your religious school or something? I'll reply to your once again 'off base' comments once I get the time. Ry, I agree with your political views but your twisted version of Christianity makes me think twice about the rest of your posts, no offense.

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"The fate of our country remains that of a mediocre nation that happens to have the most weapons, and just masses of undereducated illiterates to wield them."
- Elizabeth Ross

Also, you make many comments regarding who owned slaved as well as other 'facts' you are claiming. Would you please do everyone a favor and back them up with respectable proof and not just throw out random comments and say they are fact? This does nothing but create a false sense of knowledge based on fallacies.

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Once again, I am glad I am not alone. The anti religion posts are contradicting the anti-neocon posts. People get c aught up in being anti-religoin that they confuse the two. I am two Makers Mark and Tres Generaciones into the wind so bare with me. I just think the lack of focus is losing leadership. You can be atheist, but expressing it at all times is just going to inhibit your ability to attract the minds of those who are not atheist which is a great majority of humans on this earth. If you truly believe in your cause you would find a distinction between the religion and politics and pursue it. I hope I am being clear, but I doubt it. Ithink people will get the gist. Seperation of church and state is stressed for a reason, yet it is a continued abuse within this forum. You can still be anti-church, but expressing such is no different than being prochurch. It is just a polar opposite and being such is counterproductive to the cause of being anti-neoconservative. If you promote your anti-religion it is simply turnign away those who are pro-religion, which is a great majority. I doubt I am being clear, but I imagine I have been in the past and continue to be ignored. Boys will be boys. Regardeless, I love you man. Peace....Two shots in the wind...

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