Anti-Neocons

Okay,

With evolution, I have a question:

How is the ecosystem's checks and balances with different species maintained when they evolve?

For example, bees pollinate flowers. What's the evolution behind that?



Let me clarify this for you; you need to know arabic to truly appreciate the Qur'an's literary value. Translations give you the basic gist of what it's saying, but that's it. If you're going to use a translation, then don't get too hung up on specific words, semantics and/or etymology, because those things are only preserved 100% in the original arabic text.

Int'l man of mystery wrote:

Bees are not the only kind of pollinator in nature (bats, birds, wasps, butterflies, flies, ants, other insects) nor do we see evidence to suggest they were the first pollinator. Instead we see evidence that they came late in the pollination game and some bees are very specialized for it. Bee pollinators appear to be a result of wasps evolving into specialized pollinators.

Bees feed on pollen and nectar. They go from flower to flower to collect one or the other. Sometimes they collect nectar, sometimes they collect pollen. Even if they aren't collecting pollen, they can still pollinate just from being fuzzy and electrostatic. When they visit another flower the pollen is transferred Some bees will only visit a single kind of flower, some on a few, and some on just about anything they come across if they are drawn to it. Not all bee's produce honey.

Int'l man of mystery wrote:

The only time I get hung up on semantics is when someone that I am discussing something with misuses English. Regardless of being a bad translation, when it happens I can't just say, "ok that completely insane thing you just said is ok because you can't translate accurately, so it must mean something else." If someone can't convey something accurately then they need to get better at English, not expect me to accept something ridiculous. Regardless, even semantics and etymology comes into argument when the Quran is discussed about in pure Arabic. But most importantly, we are talking about basic concepts and basic logic. These things are communicable in simple language. Honestly, my opinion is that simple language is the only way to discuss things such as basic logic as it keeps people from getting too hung up the meanings of complex and flexible words. I also feels this way about discussing philosophy. Too many people who fancy their selves to be poetic linguists want to discuss philosophy but end up just writing silly poetry, and whenever they do stumble across something that makes sense then it's usually in simpler terms.

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Okay, but my question is with the evolutionary aspect of how this pollination process evolved in the first place, involving other animals, instead of self-pollination?

There is a lot of functionality and inter-dependence in nature, and I'm curious as to how it evolved. I've heard a lot of how animals evolved on their own, but I've never heard how they evolved together with the rest of the ecosystem, which they inhabit.

Do you know?



I agree, and as I said, if all you want is the basic gist of what it's saying, you can probably stick with a translation. However, in terms of semantics and etymology, understanding the arabic is necessary.