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 Post subject: Women killed in the name of honor
 Post Posted: Mon Jun 01, 2009 8:00 am 
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Despite being outlawed, honor killings are widespread in Turkey. Hundreds of women are killed each year for forming relationships, seeking divorce, or even because they're victims of sexual assaults and rapes.



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 Post subject: Re: Women killed in the name of honor
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Despite being outlawed, honor killings are widespread in Turkey. Hundreds of women are killed each year for forming relationships, seeking divorce, or even because they're victims of sexual assaults and rapes.



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What do honor killings have to do with Islam?


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 Post subject: Re: Women killed in the name of honor
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What do honor killings have to do with Islam?


Not sure. Its islamic countries that are doing them.


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 Post subject: Re: Women killed in the name of honor
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Phys wrote:
Not sure. Its islamic countries that are doing them.


So, are you assuming that anything backwards that a Muslim does, has something to do with Islam?


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 Post subject: Re: Women killed in the name of honor
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Many of the government in the Middle East fuse religion and politics they are basically one in the same.

I’m anti-Zionist not Pro-Muslim.


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I wonder what happens if women "choose" not to wear their sheets?


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 Post subject: Re: Women killed in the name of honor
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Tim, I’m not attacking you or anyone else of the Muslim religion.
You know I don’t care for religion and look at it as means of control, fear, and ignorance.

Why anyone would choose to walk around in a black sheet in the middle of the desert is beyond me. I just think too often "we" atheist on this forum give the Muslims a free ride cause most tend to be anti-Zionist. If "we" attach anti-Zionism to Islam, then it discredits anti-Zionism by limiting to a narrow group of people and adding extra baggage that "we" dont need. We already get labeled as Jew haters. Just think if the Arab world turned atheist over night but were still complaining about Israel and the things that they were doing? I think other people would take them more seriously and not so quick to label it as a religious war.


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 Post subject: Re: Women killed in the name of honor
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However, that cultural tradition, "honor" killing (one in which already has women walking around in sheets) appears to happen more often than the case of Nigeria. I know there is things in the quran about beating women and womens place.


Even supposing that interpretation of the Qur'an, it still says nothing about killing women to preserve family honor. Honor killings are only endemic of certain cultures, not necessarily religions. Yazidis in Kurdistan, for example, practice it, while they are against Muslims and Islam.

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Why anyone would choose to walk around in a black sheet in the middle of the desert is beyond me.


It isn't necessarily a black sheet. Also, exposing bare skin doesn't necessarily lead to being cooler, especially with the sun out in a desert.

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I just think too often "we" atheist on this forum give the Muslims a free ride cause most tend to be anti-Zionist.


What do you call a "free ride"?

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If "we" attach anti-Zionism to Islam, then it discredits anti-Zionism by limiting to a narrow group of people and adding extra baggage that "we" dont need. We already get labeled as Jew haters. Just think if the Arab world turned atheist over night but were still complaining about Israel and the things that they were doing? I think other people would take them more seriously and not so quick to label it as a religious war.


Zionists and Neocons tend to be either Jews or Christians, and most of the atheists on this forum come from Christian family backgrounds.

Islam doesn't really factor into that equation, so it tends to get little more attention here than any of the other religions like Hinduism, Jainism, Sikhism, etc. How often do you see atheists here talking about those religions?

Plus, it's hard to successfully bash a religion, when a significant number of the people around you believe in it and are competent enough to defend it.


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 Post subject: Re: Women killed in the name of honor
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Honor killings happen all over the world. It's not exclusive to the Muslim world or any other religion. The Islam haters and Jews tend to focus on Islam to discredit it because Islam is the fastest growing religion in the world.


I pretty much have a dislike for all religions especially Jews, Xtain and Islam.

Where are these other cases? I was more focused on the majority of cases not some fringe case on Easter Island.

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Let's not forget about the most frequent form of honor killing. Women have abortions to save their honor. Some are shamed because they are too young or because of the relationship with the father.


:lol: I would have an abortion with my husband because I'm not having more children.

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You're anti-Zionist and you're getting close to being anti-Muslim.


Im pretty much anti-Religion if you havent figured that out by now.

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What do you call a "free ride"?


Not calling out the Bullshit the Muslims post on this site. Left of Larry has left completely due to the crazy ass things posted on this site. Leds rarely debates religion. Thunk I think is atheist. Ryan and myself tend to be the only ones that debate it from time to time.

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Zionists and Neocons tend to be either Jews or Christians, and most of the atheists on this forum come from Christian family backgrounds.


I dont have a christian background.

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Islam doesn't really factor into that equation.


It does to creditability.

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Plus, it's hard to successfully bash a religion, when a significant number of the people around you believe in it and are competent enough to defend it.


I haven’t seen anyone on this site defend religion. Most atheist stop debating with y’all cause its hard to reason with someone who has imaginary friends and believes in flying ponies, talking snakes etc


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