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God(s) or no God(s), never underestimate the human capacity to become corrupt, greedy, & abusive of their believes.

But never underestimate humanity to discover truth, to give & receive love, and to fight for justice wherever he is.


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"Any woman who has more children than a child or two, is simply immoral."


What gives you the right to judge this?

Just curious I pose a question: Under who's authority are you acting under?


If you can answer soon I'd appreciate it.

'Religion' is a construct that invites fear and strife. I know some of the most religious people today and they are unhappy due to being trapped.

Religion is a problem becuase its a constricted belief system and its not grounded at all or truly seasoned.

For that matter there is a God and aetheism is certainly no less - - - "A Construct"

Its an important distinction to make because so often people trap themselves into one view. I don't believe in all the nonsense that religions attempt to expouse, but I do believe in a higher power easily.

And with that I am at ease with things the way they are. I follow the subject of forgiveness and repentence, certainly but I do not choose to abide by a construct.

I know many friends of mine who tried to abide by the construct and it didn't work out at all, they just had to go discover the truth themselves and that to me is what is good and 'moral'.

Today's definition of morality would have you believe you must confine yourself to a pine box, to me this is the key deception, its a trap. No friend I have at the LDS Church or Saint John's group has ever been happy following or living inside a construct especially based on lies.

I even know that my good friend's brother was killed in the war and he is now drinking heavily and doing whatever he does, but its for the best & he's got to walk his own path.

He will be much stronger in the end than any of those who follow the gospel today, because he will have tasted the fruits of all worldly disease which is what we have today an epidemic of immorality.

He should never have to apologize and I support his journey. Everyone's journey is their own that is the ultimate underlying truth, they must experience it and go on it, and therefore choose themselves.


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i guess my point ultimately though is that it's more beneficial to understand these writings and use them against neocons and/or Zionists (is there really a difference?) instead of attacking their religion and pointing out how archaic it is. i still personally adhere to a lot of the moral perspectives contained in the bible.


Churches are businesses. 18 billion dollars a year goes to Israle through Prtestant churches in the US that is more then the governemnt gives them. So yes the whole religion needs attacking. Plus its fucking retarded and gets what it deserves.

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Ry why is the church on a constant crusade against Islam and Muslims, notice how many Muslim lands are occupied ,

whats your thoughts on this.

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“God does not forbid you from showing kindness and dealing justly with those who have not fought you about religion and have not driven you out of your homes. God loves JUST actions.” (_Quran 60:8_)

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Islamic that would be because churches are mostly businesses. They are against muslims who aren't in line with their fundamentalist lines of thinking. Just look at Jerry Falwell he supported muslims but never those who were peaceful, it was always Zionists/profiteers and fanatics and its real odd how every company including Skyway Aviation would take donations from these so called moral leaders.

Crusades against natives by Christianity is nothing new its written all over the bible and text-books dating back hundreds. Clearly they just want to take away the infidels and those who don't agree with christianity. Christainity, Islam, Judaism all basically came from the same Pagan Judaism faith which broke into multiple religions. So there's no clear reason for them to attack other than their grasp for their narrow definitions and ideals they internalize.


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Islamic that would be because churches are mostly businesses. They are against muslims who aren't in line with their fundamentalist lines of thinking. Just look at Jerry Falwell he supported muslims but never those who were peaceful, it was always Zionists/profiteers and fanatics and its real odd how every company including Skyway Aviation would take donations from these so called moral leaders.

Crusades against natives by Christianity is nothing new its written all over the bible and text-books dating back hundreds. Clearly they just want to take away the infidels and those who don't agree with christianity. Christainity, Islam, Judaism all basically came from the same Pagan Judaism faith which broke into multiple religions. So there's no clear reason for them to attack other than their grasp for their narrow definitions and ideals they internalize.


Islam is not a business and its true teachings have no materialistic gain in any sense what so ever, Islam teaches that one can connect directly to god with out going through the church or a priest for forgiveness .

If anything to me Christian leaders are crusading against Islam because Islam will simply put them out of business.

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In the Quran, God has said:

“God does not forbid you from showing kindness and dealing justly with those who have not fought you about religion and have not driven you out of your homes. God loves JUST actions.” (_Quran 60:8_)

To kill an innocent life it is as if you killed humanity ,to save an innocent life is as if you saved humanity ... the blessed Quran...

http://Islamic-s.webs.com


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Right they're crusading against Islam because its peaceful and puts them out of business. They support islamic fundamentalists though, anyone who can be totally violent and create wars which make good money.

Jews vs Arabs vs Turks etc. ....


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NoApartheid wrote:
Right they're crusading against Islam because its peaceful and puts them out of business. They support islamic fundamentalists though, anyone who can be totally violent and create wars which make good money.

Jews vs Arabs vs Turks etc. ....


indeed, money can create so much evil ,it can tear family a part and not many are immune to it ,it seems

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In the Quran, God has said:

“God does not forbid you from showing kindness and dealing justly with those who have not fought you about religion and have not driven you out of your homes. God loves JUST actions.” (_Quran 60:8_)

To kill an innocent life it is as if you killed humanity ,to save an innocent life is as if you saved humanity ... the blessed Quran...

http://Islamic-s.webs.com


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