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 Post Posted: Sun Apr 27, 2008 6:59 pm 
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The point that I was making was not about whether they could get along. It was about a logical proof that Jesus cannot have been Messiah.


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I was under the impression that what Judaism and Islam have in common most is that they both believe God is one, Christianity has morphed that concept into the 'trinity doctrine' for the most part.
Judaism rejects Christ and that usually means nothing from the NT has any meaning for them. They are in error. John the Baptist was a prophet sent by God, his writings should be considered as being as valid as what any prophet from the OT is. John 1 says that very thing
Joh:1:6: There was a man sent from God, whose name was John.

Taken to the extreme that would include the words in all 5 books in the NT that are 'attributed' to John. John's basic message was 'pay attention to what Jesus says'. If they did they would know that He pretty much makes His land barren before He starts 'rebuilding it'. If a certain area is to be a parking lot for camels he makes the parking lot then brings in the camels.


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 Post Posted: Wed May 21, 2008 6:23 pm 
 
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Additionally, Allah cannot have created the universe. His view is too narrow.


I'll tell you what's narrow.
You thinking that God came to earth and died and resurrected himself.
You thinking that God prayed to himself on the mountain before dieing.
You thinking that children are born with inherited sin, and so...
You thinking that we need a Messiah because of...
You thinking that God intentionally fucks us over.
You thinking that one Man(/God) can be unequally above all men.
You thinking that Satan is a fallen angel when angels have no free will to commit sin.

Fuck off.



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Jesus sought to correct the polytheism that made its way into Judaism, he didn't go out to establish Christianity. Christianity began as a religion when the Roman Empire accepted it and re-designed it (after persecuting the last few followers of Christ's revelation).


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adam1 wrote:
Jesus sought to correct the polytheism that made its way into Judaism, he didn't go out to establish Christianity. Christianity began as a religion when the Roman Empire accepted it and re-designed it (after persecuting the last few followers of Christ's revelation).

All the Apostles were Jewish so that is where Christianity started, they were also the first to be persecuted, not surprisingly, by other Jews


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its a fictional story that people confuse for history like king Arthur.
There was no Jesus, no Adam and Eve, no Abraham, no miracles, no Samson, no Job, no Noah, it's all fiction. About the only real person in the Bible is King David and King Solomon, but just about everything written about them is false.

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Adam he said in a few posts above that Jesus cannot be the messiah.. I don't think he's a Christian.


I noticed after posting... but decided to leave it.


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Redelicious wrote:
its a fictional story that people confuse for history like king Arthur.
There was no Jesus, no Adam and Eve, no Abraham, no miracles, no Samson, no Job, no Noah, it's all fiction. About the only real person in the Bible is King David and King Solomon, but just about everything written about them is false.


Okay you view it as fiction, is that well written fiction or poorly written fiction? You have to admit if you gathered all the verses that cover the first day of His return as King it is going to be pretty dynamic for all involved.

One little event is making the Dead Sea into a sea of fresh water, I find that pretty neat and totally beyond anything man can ever do, no matter the number of years dedicated to such a project.


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