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Just some quotes relevant to the sorts of things we discuss around here....


"Over the millions of years of human evolution we grew bodies and minds that crave certain kinds of experiences--walking, throwing things, contemplating fire, dancing, talking, sex, spending most of every day outdoors. Only in the last part of our long history have we shifted away from lives that gave us these satisfactions; and the industrial pleasures of the machine future cannot replace them."
--Kim Stanley Robinson, Author of The Mars Trilogy

"If business is based on the notion that it can call upon nature without constraint to submit to the objectives of commerce, it will destroy the foundation on which rests the society it has pledged to serve."
--Paul Hawken

"Growth for the sake of growth is the ideology of the cancer cell."
--Edward Abbey

"Censorship is telling a man he can't have a steak just because a baby can't chew it."
--Mark Twain


"Intellectual rigor annoys people because it interferes with the pleasure they derive from allowing their wishes to be the fathers of their thoughts."
--George F. Will

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"Growth for the sake of growth is the ideology of the cancer cell."
--Edward Abbey


badass quote.. One of the "greenest" quotes I've ever seen in my life

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Wow...I was just thinking about making this thread. I have been collecting them for awhile. I will just go ahead and post all of them just in case someone cares to collect them.

The end there is all from 12 Monkeys if anyone is into that movie.

"People willing to trade their freedom for temporary security
deserve neither and will lose both." - Benjamin Franklin

"They who would give up an essential liberty for temporary security, deserve neither liberty or security" -Ben Franklin

"It is the duty of the patriot to protect his country from its government." ~Thomas Paine

"To announce that there must be no criticism of the president, or that we are to stand by the president right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the american public."~Theodore Roosevelt

"There never was a good war or a bad peace."~Benjamin Franklin


The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves, but wiser people are so full of doubt.

- Bertrand Russell


"The people who cast the votes do not decide an election, the people who count the votes do."~Joseph Stalin

"Who says I am not under the special protection of God?" ~Adolf Hitler

Sound familiar???

"The great masses of people will more easily fall victims to a big lie than to a small one. Especially if it is repeated over and over." -- Adolph Hitler"

"Let us pray in this hour that nothing can divide us, and that God will help us against the Devil! Almighty Lord, bless our fight!? -- Adolph Hitler to the SA in 1930."



"The individual is handicapped by coming face to face with a conspiracy so monstrous he cannot believe it exists." ~J. Edgar Hoover, Former Director of the FBI (American KGB)

"There never was a good war or a bad peace."~Benjamin Franklin

"Go Fuck Yourself." ~Dick Cheney
(Dick Cheney's famous "Go fuck yourself!" quote to a Democratic Senator on the Senate floor in 2004! )

"A democracy is nothing more than mob rule, where fifty-one percent of the people may take away the rights of the other forty-nine." ~Thomas Jefferson

"If tyranny and oppression come to this land, it will be in the guise of fighting a foreign enemy." ~James Madison

"My notion of democracy is that under it the weakest shall have the same opportunities as the strongest." ~Gandhi

"I do not feel obliged to believe that the same God who has endowed us with sense, reason, and intellect has intended us to forgo their use. ~Galileo Galilei

"I don't know where [Osama bin Laden] is. I'll repeat what I said: I truly am not that concerned about him." ~"George W. Bush, March 13, 2002

"I hold that a little rebellion, now and then, is a good thing, and is as necessary in the political world as storms are in the physical."~Thomas Jefferson

"All, too, will bear in mind this sacred principle, that though the will of the majority is in all cases to prevail, that will to be rightful must be reasonable; that the minority possess their equal rights, which equal law must protect, and to violate would be oppression.~Thomas Jefferson

"These guys are the most crooked, you know, lying group of people I've ever seen." ~John Kerry

Darkness cannot drive out darkness: only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate: only love can do that.~Martin Luther King

"Men of factious tempers, of local prejudices or of sinister designs, may, by intrigue, by corruption, or by other means first obtain the suffrages, and then betray the people." ~James Madison

"I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it."~Voltaire






"This administration never said that the 9/11 attacks were orchestrated between Saddam and al Qaeda." (June 17, 2004)
"Acting pursuant to the Constitution and the Authorization for Use of Military Force Against Iraq Resolution of 2002 is consistent with the United States and other countries continuing to take the necessary actions against international terrorists and terrorist organizations, including those nations, organizations, or persons who planned, authorized, committed, or aided the terrorist attacks that occurred on September 11, 2001." (March 18, 2003

~both George W. Bush

"Those who are willing to trade freedom for security deserve neither freedom nor security." ~Benjamin Franklin


"A liberal is a man or a woman or a child who looks forward to a better day, a more tranquil night, and a bright, infinite future." ~Leonard Bernstein
"We know that dictators are quick to choose aggression, while free nations strive to resolve differences in peace." ~George W. Bush
"They misunderestimated me." ~George W. Bush, November 6, 2000

"What do our opponents mean when they apply to us the label liberal? If by liberal they mean, as they want people to believe, someone who is soft in his policies abroad, who is against local government, and who is unconcerned with the taxpayer's dollar, then the record of this party and its members demonstrate that we are not that kind of liberal. But if by a liberal they mean someonne who looks ahead and not behind, someone who welcomes new ideas without rigid reactions, someone who cares about the welfare of the people --their health, their housing, their schools, their jobs, their civil rights, and their civil liberties-someone who believes we can break through the stalemate and suspicions that grip us in our policies abroad, if that is what they mean by a liberal, then I'm proud to say I'm a liberal. ~John F. Kennedy, 1960

"Misleading our nation into war in Iraq makes you unfit to lead this country.... Doing nothing while this nation loses millions of jobs makes you unfit to lead this country. Letting 45 million Americans go without health care makes you unfit to lead this country. Letting the Saudi Royal Family control our energy costs makes you unfit to lead this country." ~John Kerry


A human being is part of the whole called by us universe, a part
limited in time and space. We experience ourselves, our thoughts and
feelings as something separate from the rest. A kind of optical
delusion of consciousness. This delusion is a kind of prison for us,
restricting us to our personal desires and to affection for a few
persons nearest to us. Our task must be to free ourselves from the
prison by widening our circle of compassion to embrace all living
creatures and the whole of nature in its beauty… The true value of a
human being is determined primarily by the measure and the sense in
which they have obtained liberation from the self. … We shall require
a substantially new manner of thinking if humanity is to survive.
(Albert Einstein, 1954)

"A foolish consistency is the hobgoblin of little minds, adored by little statesmen and philosophers and divines. With consistency a great soul has simply nothing to do."
-Ralph Waldo Emerson


"Wisdom is the principle thing; therefore get wisdom. And in all your getting, get understanding." -- Proverbs 4:7

"Speaking the Truth in times of universal deceit is a revolutionary act." -George Orwell

"Terrorism is the best political weapon for nothing drives people harder than a fear of sudden death." --Adolf Hitler

Give me control of a nation's money and I care not who makes the laws. - Mayer Amschel Bauer (Rothschild)

"Every time we do something you tell me America will do this and will do that . . . I want to tell you something very clear: Don't worry about American pressure on Israel. We, the Jewish people, control America, and the Americans know it." -- Israeli Prime Minister, Ariel Sharon, October 3, 2001, to Shimon Peres, as reported on Kol Yisrael radio.

"Right," Teabing said. "jesus' establishment as 'the Son of God' was officially proposed and voted on by the Council of Nicaea."
"Hold on. You're saying Jesus' divinity was the result of a vote?"
"A relatively close vote at that," Teabing added. "Noonetheless, establishing Christ's divinity was critical to the further unification of the Roman empire and to the new Vatican power base. By officially endorsing Jesus as the Son of God, Constantine turned Jesus into a deity who existed beyond the scope of the human world, an entity whose power was unchallengeable. This not only precluded further pagan challenges to Christianity, but now the followers of Christ were able to redeem themselves only via the established sacred channel==the Roman Catholic Church."
Sophi glanced at Langdon, and he gave her a soft nod of concurrence.
"It was all about power," Teabing continued. "Christ as Messiah was critical to the functioning of Church and state. Many scholars claim that the early Church literally stole Jesus from His original followers, hijacking His human message, shrouding it in an impenetrable cloak of divinity, and using it to expand their own power. I've written several books on the topic.'
"And I assume devout Chritians send you hate mail on a daily basis?"
"Why would they?" Teabing countered. "The vast majority of educated Christians know the history of their faith. Jesus was indeed a great and powerful man. Constantine's underhanded political maneuvers don't diminish the majesty of Christ's life. Nobody is saying Christ was a fraud, or denying that He walked the earth and inspired millions to better lives. All we are saying is that Constantine took advantage of Christ's substantial influence and importance. And in doing so, he shaped the face of Christianity as we know it today."
Sophie glanced at the art book before her, eager to move on and see the Da Vinci painting of the Holy Grail.
"The twist is this," Teabing said, talking faster now. "Because Constantine upgraded Jesus' status almost four centuries after Jesus' death, thousands of documents already existed chronicling HIs life as a mortal man. To rewrite the history books, Constantine knew he would need a bold stroke. From this sprang the most profound moment in Christian history." Teabing paused, eyeing Sophi. "Constantine commissioned and financed a new Bible, which omitted those gospels that spoke of Christ's human traits and embellished those gospels that made Him godlike. The earlier gospels were outlawed, gathered up, and burned."


“Ten men in our country can buy the world, and ten million can’t buy enough to eat.” Will Rogers


Matt 7:1
1 Judge not, that ye be not judged.

Luke 6:46
46 And why call ye me, Lord, and do not the things which I say?

Luke 6:31
31 And as ye would that men should do to you, do ye also to them
likewise.

Luke 6:36
36 Be ye therefore merciful, as your Father also is merciful.

Matt 5:43-44
43 Ye have heard that it hath been said, Thou shalt love thy neighbour,
and hate thine enemy.
44 But I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you,
do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully
use you, and persecute you;

Matt 19:19
19 Honour thy father and thy mother: and, Thou shalt love thy neighbour
as thyself.

Matt 22:37-40
37 Jesus said unto him, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy
heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind.
38 This is the first and great commandment.
39 And the second is like unto it, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as
thyself.
40 On these two commandments hang all the law and the prophets.

Luke 6:27
27 But I say unto you which hear, Love your enemies, do good to them
which hate you,

John 13:34
34 A new commandment I give unto you, That ye love one another;
as I have loved you, that ye also love one another.

Gal 5:14
14 For all the law is fulfilled in one word, even in this; Thou shalt
love thy neighbour as thyself.

Gal 5:25
25 If we live in the Spirit, let us also walk in the Spirit.

1Thes 3:12
12 And the Lord make you to increase and abound in love one toward
another, and toward all men, even as we do toward you:

1Thes 4:8
8 He therefore that despiseth, despiseth not man, but God, who hath
also given unto us his holy Spirit.

1 Pet 2:17
17 Honour all men. Love the brotherhood. Fear God. Honour the king.

1 Pet 3:8
8 Finally, be ye all of one mind, having compassion one of another,
love as brethren, be pitiful, be courteous:

I Jn 3:11
11 For this is the message that ye heard from the beginning, that we
should love one another.

I Jn 3:23
23 And this is his commandment, That we should believe on the name of
his Son Jesus Christ, and love one another, as he gave us
commandment.

I Jn 4:7
7 Beloved, let us love one another: for love is of God; and every one
that loveth is born of God, and knoweth God.

I Jn 4:11
11 Beloved, if God so loved us, we ought also to love one another.

I Jn 4:12
12 No man hath seen God at any time. If we love one another, God
dwelleth in us, and his love is perfected in us.

I Jn 4:16
16 And we have known and believed the love that God hath to us.
God is love; and he that dwelleth in love dwelleth in God, and
God in him.

I Jn 4:20
20 If a man say, I love God, and hateth his brother, he is a liar:
for he that loveth not his brother whom he hath seen, how can he
love God whom he hath not seen?

Bush Quotes
"I don't know where [Osama bin Laden] is. I'll repeat what I said: I truly am not that concerned about him." ~"George W. Bush, March 13, 2002




"I have opinions of my own - strong opinions - but I don't always agree with them."

--- George Bush

Posted: Apr 21, 2005 11:25 PM

"It's important for us to explain to our nation that life is important. It's not only life of babies, but it's life of children living in, you know, the dark dungeons of the Internet."
-- Arlington Heights, IL, October 24, 2000

Posted: Apr 21, 2005 11:13 PM

"The illiteracy level of our children are appalling."
-Washington, D.C.; Januray 23, 2004



Our enemies never stop thinking of ways to harm our country and our people, and neither do we."
-George Bush


"It's important for us to explain to our nation that life is important. It's not only life of babies, but it's life of children living in, you know, the dark dungeons of the Internet."

-- Arlington Heights, IL, October 24, 2000

President Lyndon Johnson, who said of the FBI's J. Edgar Hoover that he would "rather have him inside the tent pissing out, than outside the tent pissing in."

"ALL WARFARE IS BASED ON DECEPTION." The Art Of War -- Sun Tzu

http://www.jesus-is-savior.com/Basics/m ... rds_15.jpg

Yo,

I have a fairly new group and I am looking for new members.

I have not been given the privilege of regulating on any haters yet, but if you are a hater, and you like to attack and insult people, feel free to join so i can delete your ignorance.

Otherwise, if you love life, peace, and politics. Feel free to join and post whatever the fuck you feel like.

Oh, and I have recently added a shitload of new videos to the collection. It is right on the group profile and there are some pretty good ones.

Check it out!!!!!



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"I am a red man. If the Great Spirit had desired me to be a white man he would have made me so in the first place. He put in your heart certain wishes and plans, in my heart he put other and different desires. Each man is good in his sight. It is not necessary for Eagles to be Crows. We are poor..but we are free. No white man controls our footsteps. If we must die...we die defending our rights." --Sitting Bull Hunkpapa Sioux

"It is my conviction that killing under the cloak of war is nothing but an act of murder." --Albert Einstein"

"``The per capita income gap between the developed and the developing countries is increasing, in large part the result of higher birth rates in the poorer countries.... Famine in India, unwanted babies in the United States, poverty that seemed to form an unbreakable chain for millions of people--how should we tackle these problems?.... It is quite clear that one of the major challenges of the 1970s ... will be to curb the world's fertility." -- George H. W. Bush"

"If this were a dictatorship, it'd be a heck of a lot easier, just so long as I'm the dictator. -- President G. W. Bush"

"I never would have agreed to the formulation of the Central Intelligence Agency back in '47, if I had known it would become the American Gestapo. " -- Harry S Truman (1961)"

"There are a thousand hacking at the branches of evil to one who is striking at the root." -- Henry David Thoreau"

"Do not fear the enemy, for your enemy can only take your life. It is far better that you fear the media, for they will steal your HONOR. That awful power, the public opinion of a nation, is created in America by a horde of ignorant, self-complacent simpletons who failed at ditching and shoemaking and fetched up in journalism on their way to the poorhouse. - --Mark Twain."

"The interests behind the Bush Administration, such as the CFR, The Trilateral Commission - founded by Brzezinski for David Rockefeller - and the Bilderberger Group, have prepared for and are now moving to implement open world dictatorship within the next five years. They are not fighting against terrorists. They are fighting against citizens." -- Dr. Johannes B. Koeppl, Ph.D., former German defense ministry official and advisor to former NATO Secretary General Manfred Werner"

"Your failure to be informed, does not make me a wacko. -- John Loeffler"

"The greatest crime since World War II has been U.S. foreign policy." --Ramsey Clark [Former U.S. Attorney General under President Lyndon Johnson]"

"By way of deception, thou shalt do war." --Motto of the Mossad

Just look at us. Everything is backwards. Everything is upside-down. Doctors destroy health, lawyers destroy justice, universities destroy knowledge, governments destroy freedom, the major media destroy information, and religion destroys spirituality. (Michael Ellner)


Isaiah 8:9-17
Raise the war cry, you nations, and be shattered!
Listen, all you distant lands.
Prepare for battle, and be shattered!
Devise your strategy, but it will be thwarted;
propose your plan, but it will not stand,
for God is with us.
The Lord spoke to me with his strong hand upon me,
warning me not to follow the way of this people.
He said:
Do not call conspiracy everything that these people call conspiracy;
do not fear what they fear, and do not dread it.
The Lord Almighty is the one you are to regard as holy,
he is the one you are to fear,
he is the one you are to dread,
and he will be a sanctuary;
but for both houses of Israel he will be
a stone that causes men to stumble
and a rock that makes them fall.
And for the people of Jerusalem he will be a trap and a snare.
Many of them will stumble;
they will fall and be broken,
they will be snared and captured."
Bind up the testimony
and seal up the law among my disciples.
I will wait for the Lord, who is hiding his face from the house of Jacob.
I will put my trust in him.


12 Monkeys

"If you forget one thing, I will have you shaved, sterilized, and destroyed."

Well, here's my theory on that. When I was institutionalized, my brain was studied exhaustively in the guise of mental health. I was interrogated, I was x-rayed, I was examined thoroughly [hack!]. Then, they took everything about me, and put it into a computer, where they created this model of mind. Yes! Using that model, they managed to generate every thought I could possibly have in the next, say, ten years, which they then filtered through a probability matrix of some kind to- to determine everything I was gonna do in that period. So you see, she knew I was gonna lead the Army of the Twelve Monkeys into the pages of history before it ever even occured to me. She knows everything I'm ever gonna do before I know it myself. How's that?" (501 K)

"Five billion people died in 1996 and 1997. Almost the entire population of the world. Only about one percent of us survived."
"Are you going to save us, Mr. Cole?"
"How can I save you? This already happened. I can't save you, nobody can. I am simply trying to gather information to help the people in the present trace the path of the virus." (278 K)

"Right, right, right, right. I- I got a little carried away, uh, explaining the inner workings of the institution." (18.0 K)

"I'm not saying you're not mentally ill. For all I know you're crazy as a loon! That's not why you're here, that's not why you're here, that's not why you're here!" (21.1 K)

"You know what crazy is? Crazy is majority rules. Yeah. Uh." (9.71 K)

"I'll give 'im the deluxe mental hospital tour."
"My man." (9.20 K)

"What are you talking about?"
"Your plan. Emancipation!" (8.95 K)

"Aaaa, fuck the bozos!" (5.90 K)

"Games... here's some games... games that wanna get out, ha... See? More games. Games... they vegetize ya. If you play the games, you're voluntarily takin' a tranquilizer." (163 K)

"Take germs, for example."
"Germs?"
"Uh-huh. In the eighteenth century, no such thing. Nada, nothing. No one had ever imagined such a thing. No sane person, anyway. But, along comes this doctor, uh, uh, uh, Semmelweis. Semmelweis. Semmelweis comes along. He's trying to convince people, well other doctors mainly, that there's these teeny tiny invisible bad things called germs. They get into your body, make you sick. Huh? He's trying to get doctors to wash their hands. What is this guy, crazy? Teeny tiny invisible, what do you call it, uh, uh, germs? Huh? What? Now, cut to the twentieth century. Huh? Last week, as a matter of fact, right before I got dragged into this hell hole. I go in, uh, to order a burger, and this fast food joint guy, he drops it on the floor. Jim, he picks it up, he wipes it off, he hands it to me, like it was all okay. 'What about the germs?' I say. He says, 'I don't believe in germs. Germs are just a plot they made up so they can sell you disinfectants and soaps.' Now, he's crazy, right? See?" (742 K)

"Get outta my chair!" (38.5 K)

"Sorry, uh sorry. I- I- I got a little agitated. The thought of, uh, escaping crossed my mind, and suddenly, suddenly... suddenly I felt like bending the fucking bars back!" (27.4 K)

"Great drugs for all of us nut case lunatics, maniacs, Sibyls!" (15.3 K)

"That's a great idea. It's great. Um, more of a long term thing, um, first we have to focus on more immediate goals." (17.8 K)

"Get out! Get out! He was in my chair." (69.6 K)

"I know some things that you don't know. It's gonna be very difficult for you to understand it." (14.2 K)

"This is a place for crazy people. I'm not crazy."
"We don't use that term, 'crazy', Mr. Cole."
"Well, you've got some real nuts here." (139 K)

"Planning on trying to escape, that's what you were gonna ask me, right? Good question. Very good question. Intelligent." (12.7 K)

"It's obscene. All the violence, all the lunacy. Shootings even at airports now. You might say that we're the next endangered species. Human beings."
"I think you're right, ma'am. I think you hit the nail on the head."
"Jones is my name. I'm in insurance." (379 K)

"I guess they give you some chemical strings, huh? Drugs! What'd they give you? Thorazine? Haldol? How much? How much? Know your doses. Know your doses. It's elementary." (101 K)

"Maybe the human race deserves to be wiped out." (5.90 K)

"This air... such wonderful air."
"What's wonderful about the air, James?"
"Very fresh. No germs."
"Why... why do you think there aren't any germs in the air?"
"This is October, right?"
"April."
"What year is this?"
"What year do you think it is?"
"1996."
"That's the future, James. Do you think you're living in the future?"
"1996 is the past."
"No, 1996 is the future. This is 1990." (449 K)

"No more monkey business! No... more... monkey business!" (18.6 K)

"Do you know why? Do you know why? Because, you pathetically ineffectual and, and pucillanimous pretend friend to animals, I'll tell you why. Because when I had anything to do with her six years ago, there was no such thing, I hadn't even thought of it." (32.3 K)

"What are you writing?"
"Private."
"Lawsuit?"
"Private!"
"You gonna sue 'em?" (12.2 K)

"If you forget one thing, I will have you shaved, sterilized, and destroyed." (8.44 K)

"Thank you Einstein, now he- he was nuts. He was a fruitcake!" (10.4 K)

"There's the television. It's all right there. It's all right there. Look, listen, kneel, pray... commercials!" (98.2 K)

"I'm not crazy."
"Of course not. Of course not. You wanna escape, right? That's very sane, that's very sane." (18.3 K)

"Violence, when it's sanctioned by the state, is acceptable to us. Because we regard individual acts of violence with repugnance and revulsion." (24.6 K)

"Volunteer duty!"
"I didn't volunteer!"
"You causing trouble again?"
"No. No trouble." (107 K)

"Insanity oozing through telephone cables. Oozing through the ears of all these poor sane people, infecting them! Wackos everywhere, plague and madness." (20.3 K)

"We're all monkeys!" (29.3 K)

"What are you then, I ask you? What? Mentally Ill!" (8.44 K)

"This is your, your leader? A certifiable lunatic who told his former psychiatrist all his plans for god knows what wacko irresponsible schemes, and now god knows what she's written out there on that wall!"
"Who cares what psychiatrists write on walls?" (31.8 K)

"You sent me to the wrong year!" (4.38 K)

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very cool thread :)


~Sometimes the majority only means that all the fools are on the same side.

~He who doesn't understand your silence will probably not understand your words.~Elbert Hubbard

~Be who you are and say what you feel because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind.~Dr. Seuss

~I always knew that we would look back on our crying and laugh, but I never knew we would look back on our laughter and cry.~JFK

~Man walks the moon but his soul remains riveted to the Earth. Once
upon a time it was the opposite. ~Elie Wilsel

~Look again at that dot. That's here. That's home. That's us. On it everyone you love, everyone you know, everyone you ever heard of, every human being who ever was, lived out their lives. The aggregate of our joy and suffering, thousands of confident religions, ideologies, and economic doctrines, every hunter and forager, every hero and coward, every creator and destroyer of civilization, every king and peasant, every young couple in love, every mother and father, hopeful child, inventor and explorer, every teacher of morals, every corrupt politician, every "superstar," every "supreme leader," every saint and sinner in the history of our species lived there-on a mote of dust suspended in a sunbeam.~Carl Sagan

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