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 Post subject: Blinded by Hatred? On So-Called Pro-War Libertarians
 Post Posted: Fri Sep 28, 2007 6:21 am 
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Blinded by Hatred? On So-Called Pro-War Libertarians

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Since when do libertarians harbor a utilitarian sense of freedom, where sacrificing a few freedoms for the greater good of some freedom years or decades down the line? And since when does freedom include taxing and killing for a "greater good"? And what about the rights and freedoms literally flushed down the toilet by our own Western governments in pursuit of protecting freedom (as they say) / increasing their powers (as they mean).

The selective memory, reaffirming subjective interpretations of world events, and utilitarian approach to world politics take care of all such questions. The argument enjoys all the benefits of a circular argument – it cannot be refuted unless the assumption is refuted, and the assumption has already been confirmed by the circular argument itself!


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Kristol may have seen the flaws in the Communist execution of Marxist and utilitarian theories; even the flaws in the forced leveling of society; but his apology for "big government," and his musing about seeing the historic effects of his "persuasion" only in retrospect, etc., shows that he has really not abandoned the Totalitarian Collectivist mindset: We refer to the belief that central planning in both the economy and in the instillation of new value systems and societal norms, which underpinned both the Communist and National Socialist assaults on traditional societies in the past Century, can be either a practical or idealistic approach to human problems. And in his not so modest references to "history in retrospect," one wonders if he has not simply moved from the images of Lenin and Trotsky in Red Square to those of Hitler at Nuremberg.

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Mussolini had been the fair haired boy of Italian Socialists. But in 1922, he launched the "Black Shirts," the Fascist movement, which while militantly anti-Communist and claiming to be an answer to the Left (the original Third Force between the forces of tradition and Marxism), nevertheless reflected important aspects of his former Collectivist utilitarian attitude. Mussolini also sought to restore Italy to the magnificence of the Caesars; and, in 1935, his vision of a new Roman empire, led him to attack the last truly independent African nation, save for tiny Liberia and the Union of South Africa. Ethiopia's monarch could trace his lineage back to a time centuries before Christ; but his army were primitively armed, and the other Western nations, whom Mussolini had hoped to impress with the glory of the new Italy, witnessed in disgust, the images of Italian planes attacking Ethiopian tribesmen, trying to fight back with spears not unlike those which their ancestors had been using at the time of the Caesars.


In 2001, months before the attacks on 9/11, neocon Michael Ledeen wrote that Mao was correct when he asserted that revolution sprang "from the barrel of a gun." It was America's "inescapable mission to fight for the spread of democracy."

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I call them libertarians in name only it is about like the jewish atheists you can only be one or the other.

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Yeah it's similiar. Libertarian's become a buzz word for people to use, but not that many who describes themselves as it really believe in it's principles.

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