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 Post subject: AZ shooter, child killed and it wasn't even by a cop
 Post Posted: Sun Jan 09, 2011 12:14 pm 
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 Post Posted: Sun Jan 09, 2011 12:41 pm 
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No kidding he was on psychotropic drugs. He was another MK Ultra victim. Did anyone notice he actually used to be in the military? Can you say brainwashed idiot? One of the Columbine shooters had a dad who worked at a military base that was named by some truthsayers as being a center for mind control programming. Those Columbine boys were on drugs as well. There were multiple shooters as well as multiple bombs. Judicial-inc's work exposing the Mossad and Jewish connections to Columbine should not be ignored.

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Arizona Assassin Obsessed With Mind Control


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Saturday, January 8, 2011

Jared Loughner, the gunman who shot Congresswoman Gabrielle Giffords and numerous other victims including a Federal Judge and a nine-year-old girl during a political event in Tucson today, was a US military recruit who was obsessed with mind control, mirroring the circumstances of many other mass shooters in history.

Loughner’s You Tube channel contains several rambling text-based videos which discuss his fascination with mind control.

In one of his online rants, Loughner said that he was a “United States Military recruit at MEPS in Phoenix”. Reports suggest that he also may have been deployed to Afghanistan at one point.

“The mission of USMEPCOM and the Phoenix MEPS is to process individuals for enlistment or induction into the armed services,” states the website of the United States Military Entrance Processing Command.

The fact that Loughner was part of the US military and yet is being characterized as an anti-government conspiracy nutcase by the establishment media is a complete contradiction. Loughner’s multitude of viewpoints seem to transcend political classification. Watching his You Tube videos, he is clearly a schizophrenic who is obsessed with mind control and other bizarre leftfield issues of minutia.

Loughner’s vulnerable and psychotic profile, combined with his interest in mind control, mirrors other famous assassins such as Mark David Chapman, John Hinckley, as well as Columbine killers Harris & Klebold.


Good point. I wonder how the deniers will explain that. LOL.

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Didn't he also shoot most of them in the head?

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Political Hacks Waste No Time In Shamelessly Exploiting Giffords Shooting To Demonize Political Oppositon


Paul Joseph Watson
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Saturday, January 8, 2010

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iU3VoLCFbVs


UPDATE: This is allegedly Jared Loughner’s You Tube Channel. He lists his favorite books as Mein Kampf and The Communist Manifesto. There is no evidence of any Tea Party/Ron Paul/patriot movement affiliation, much to the disappointment of the Huffington Post, but Fox News and others are hastily building his profile as a nutcase conspiracy theorist.

UPDATE: A second man has been arrested in connection with the shooting, while a third man is also being sought.

UPDATE: Reports suggest that the gunman is a 22-year-old white male named Jared Loughner, an Arizona native.

UPDATE: Amidst a widespread assault on gun rights, we learn that the gunman was stopped after he was shot at by someone in the crowd exercising their second amendment.

UPDATE: Giffords’ father has told the New York Post that “the entire Tea Party” were enemies of his daughter, suggesting that a Tea Partier was behind the shooting. However, Giffords is a blue dog Democrat who is pro-border control and pro-second amendment - an unusual target for a “tea partier”.


I wonder how all the deniers that read only mainstream media stuff will explain this when they try to tie this guy in with truthsayers!

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Political hacks have wasted little time in exploiting the tragic shooting of Democratic Congresswoman Gabrielle Giffords to demonize their political opposition despite the gunman’s motivation being completely unknown at this time.

Huffington Post has already blamed the shooting on second amendment activists who held a meeting last year to discuss ways of politically defeating Giffords. They are also hyping speculation that a semi-automatic weapon was used.

Before it was even clear whether or not Giffords had survived, neo-lib statists were already shamelessly milking the shocking events for political gain. Our forum members also report that CNN’s David Fitsimmons is using the shooting to demonize “fringe” politics.

More updates to this story as it develops……

Giffords was a strong border control advocate and the gunman could have been someone with a grudge against her immigration policies. Hwoever, she also supported Obamacare and visited the Copenhagen global warming summit, so the murders could also be blamed on a “right-wing radical” and used to demonize the patriot movement.

The gunman was tackled by onlookers and arrested by police. He is described as a young man in his teens or early 20′s.


“The man was young, mid-to-late 20s, white clean-shaven with short hair and wearing dark clothing and said nothing during the shooting or while being held down. He didn’t look like a businessman, but more of a “fringe character,” reports Gawker.

Giffords is still alive and is now responding to commands, while other victims are in critical condition. Federal Judge John Roll has been confirmed dead.

Statement from Alex Jones: Whatever the motivation for this shooting, our hearts go out to the the Congresswoman’s family and supporters. It is important to note that, the anti-2nd Amendment, victim disarmament crowd will undoubtedly try to use this event to demonize gun owners and further restrictive legislation. Mexico has a total gun ban, and the worst record for killed and kidnapped politicians and other high-level figures in the world. With more than 28,000 dead in Mexico from the drug war, it is clear that leaving guns only in the hands of the cartels and criminals will only make us all vulnerable.

Eyewitness report from man who helped to apprehend shooter, “After shooting Giffords, the gunman opened fire indiscriminately for a few seconds, firing 20-30 rounds and hitting a number of people, including a kid no older than 10 years old. Rayle hid behind a concrete pole and pretended to be dead. When the gunman apparently ran out of ammunition he attempted to flee, but a member of Giffords’ staff tackled him. Rayle helped hold the gunman down while waiting for the sheriff to arrive, about 15-to-20 minutes later. The EMS came about 30 minutes later. Rayle said he was “stunned” by how long it took medical help to arrive.”



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Establishment Media Demonizes Tea Party and Constitutionalists After Giffords Shooting


Kurt Nimmo
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January 9, 2011


Get ready for the shooting of Rep. Gabrielle Giffords to be used in a serious way against the Tea Party movement. MSNBC, CNN and the rest of the Mockingbird media are now attempting to portray millions of Americans as violence prone anti-government radicals.


In the hours following the shooting liberal bloggers blamed Sarah Palin’s mid-term election rhetoric for the Gifford shooting. Palin’s campaign organization, SarahPac, posted an ad targeting Democrat Giffords for defeat during the election. The liberal blogosphere is directly accusing Palin of stoking hatred against the Arizona Congresswoman that led to the shooting in a Tucson parking lot.

Daily Kos and FireDogLake have taken up the charge and are blaming Palin directly. Sarah Palin is not an anti-government radical – she is part of the establishment Republican party and to accuse her of calling for the assassination of Gifford is ludicrous.

The word “target” is a well established part of the Democrat-Republican political lexicon.

In a Tweet, suspected CIA operative Markos Moulitsas of Daily Kos wrote sarcastically: “Mission accomplished, Sarah Palin.”

Arizona Democrat Rep. Raul Grijalva denounced what he describes as a political environment poisoned by “anger, hatred, and division.” Grijalva blamed the Tea Party movement: “[When] you stoke these flames, and you go to public meetings and you scream at the elected officials, you threaten them – you make us expendable you make us part of the cannon fodder. For a while, you’ve been feeding this hatred, this division… you feed it, you encourage it…. Something’s going to happen. People are feeding this monster…. Some of the extreme right wing has made demonization of elected officials their priority.”

In other words when citizens victimized by a predatory and arrogant government angrily confront their so-called representatives, it is tantamount of calling for violence and assassination.

“I think that Sarah has finally yelled fire in a crowded theatre,” a post on the Firedoglake blog avers. “If they can show that this dipstick was in any way influenced by Palin’s dog-whistle advocacy of violence, they need to drag her ass in for an arraignment.”

“I know Sarah and the GOP spamming their mentally ill constituency that it is, ‘OK to kill people if they don’t share your beliefs’ doesn’t help the situation but it is really too early to say what the attacker’s motives were,” said another.

“This tragedy rests sorely on your doorstep Ms. Palin,” blogger Bartholomew Hayes wrote. “Your irresponsible rhetoric has brought senseless violence against the American people.”

All of this posturing is absurd. Sarah Palin is obviously a creation of the establishment. She was appointed the unofficial leader of the Tea Party movement after a large part of it was craftily transformed by operatives into a harmless cheerleading section for the Republican party. Palin’s handlers made sure she publicly kissed the ring of top level Rockefeller minion and notorious unapprehended war criminal Henry Kissinger.

“A lot of people have bets on how long it will take before they blame this on the tea party and that’s absolutely ridiculous,” Debbie Dooley, a national coordinator for Tea Party Patriots, told Congress.org.

The Tea Party movement originally established by Libertarians and Ron Paul and subsequently co-opted and brought trance-like into the Republican party Borg hive is not a threat to the establishment.

The real Tea Party not co-opted by Republicans is the obvious target of what yet may turn out to be another staged event. Sarah Palin is the television reality show queen and propped up figurehead of an orchestrated movement funded in part by the CIA operative Richard Mellon Scaife.

The CIA has perfected the art of undermining and destroying indigneous political movements in opposition to the ruling elite and their power structures and institutions. The FBI’s covert and illegal COINTELPRO operation took down countless political movements, most notably the anti-war and civil rights movements of the 1960s. Fred Hampton and other Black Panthers were assassinated as part of the FBI’s reign of terror.

“Regardless of why the shooting took place, there will be a lot of talk about violence in America in coming days,” warns corporate behemoth Time Magazine.

In addition to further demonizing the Tea Party and other constitutionalist and patriotic movements, the brutal murder of innocents and the serious wounding of a Democrat Congress critter will be used to ramp up the statist argument that Congress needs to pass gun control legislation. The visage of Timothy McVeigh and homegrown terrorism will also get a new lease on life.

“Others on the left have taken it upon themselves to politicize this event by trying to paint it as an argument for stronger gun control laws,” warns Solomon Kleinsmith. “This coming even as we know next to nothing about this Jared Lee Loughner character, where he got his weapon, or if there was any history of violent legal problems.”

For the elite, the problem is not violence. It is the existence of and threat posed by a viable and growing constitutionalist movement that demands the Federal Reserve be closed down and the banksters responsible for the unfolding global economic crisis be arrested and tried for crimes against humanity.

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 Post Posted: Sun Jan 09, 2011 1:24 pm 
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His yt videos have an odd theme.
They basically go like this (listener)
"if gbla bla bal
gbla bla bla

thus gbla bal

gbla bla bla"

notice the spacing too for the repetition. and his triple name. he refers to his sense of self as this is name and not I am name. and introduction to JLL

And telling was how to replace the pronunciation of a letter in the alphabet with e new sound. And ranting about mind control and sleep walking and needing sleep. It could be a test to see if someone is under.

he wanted to create a new currency he said you(he) are the new currency, the current government controls the currency

given his if then simple logic he posted over and over I give it this translation: create a new me, the government controls me. Currency = mind

There is a term for this kind of twisting but to make a clear example of the logically fallacy they will take two true statements and create a false one.

If Apples are red and I say they are red
(Because) I say apples are red so they are red.

You control that apples are red.

obviously that's backwards, we see that apples are indeed red and because of that we say they are red, we have no control that they are red, or that we call them red, we call them red because thats what red means in relation to all other red things.

that an easy example but if you look at the no planers, you can see that people get caught up in this kind of mumbo jumbo all the time and screw up cause and effect and relationships.

if a = b
and c = b
then a = c

Wrong

all cats are animals
all dogs are animals
all cats are dogs.


The judge was killed, I image he was the prime target not the jewish congress woman. But she's Jewish and got hurt so she takes the headline.

A an incident was coming because the wiki distraction just killed itself.
I know it sounds crazy but our congress authorizes the deaths of millions, and they sit there and collect checks for it. I have no sympathy for the lady who was shot in the head as she was a psychopath. What is sad is the 9 year girl who was shot that should have been the headline. And the 5 other people who died. Because the media is focusing on the congress critter anyway, I believe there is more to the story and they know it. I think these two knew each other before the shooting.

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 Post Posted: Sun Jan 09, 2011 9:01 pm 
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odd his whole youtube page was pass tense. I had favorite book, I liked reading and studying conscious dreams etc. and his myspace page has been pulled though i saw it last night with a picture of a gun on a book and a guy burning a flag

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20 shots, 18 hits and six dead. If that's not a military trained professional then I don't know who is.



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A child is murdered and all these fucking wankers on tv keep saying is, well we're not sure if this was a reaction from a tea party revolutionary that wants serious change inthe government" wtf!
it seems that the only important thing here is 'Piecing Together the Gabrielle Giffords Shooting', fuck that fuck her... well maybe thats a bit harsh, but it looks like this war suporting politition has the mass media and its many followers giving her the extra love.

the 9 year old girl was born on Sept 11, 2001

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